Sean Desai

Mistashoesta

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 23, 2012
Messages
2,772
Reaction score
1,458
In the event Hurtt is fired, does Desai take over? Do you want him to? If not then who would you prefer?
 

TheLegendOfBoom

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 15, 2015
Messages
3,283
Reaction score
1,432
Location
Westcoastin’
Honestly, the dynamic between coaching personnel is so convoluted, who really knows what anyone does anymore.

Sean Desai’s, title is what Assistant Head Coach? What exactly does that even mean?

Does he assist both offensive game planning and defensive game planning?

What does he think of the personnel Seattle has or going into next season, does he have any say on what players to draft?

Clint Hurtt, has to go. That’s a given.

Who replaces Hurtt and what kind of defensive system can they incorporate is up in the air. Is it still under Carroll’s scheme or does Carroll allow full permission to do whatever the DC wants?

The incoming DC will and probably should be allowed to have a say on the overhaul on defense.

I’m not entirely sure if Desai is the guy, honestly.
 

HawkinNY

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 24, 2009
Messages
1,372
Reaction score
295
Location
Long Island, NY
Anyone in house will be just as bad. They are all clueless on how to run a top defense. Pete is terrible as a so called defensive coach. Out side of the LOB. Seattle has had one of the worst defenses every year.
 

Mad Dog

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 11, 2015
Messages
2,493
Reaction score
637
Anyone in house will be just as bad. They are all clueless on how to run a top defense. Pete is terrible as a so called defensive coach. Out side of the LOB. Seattle has had one of the worst defenses every year.

Dude's been a Defensive guy for longer than you've been alive. I don't think he's clueless at all. I just think he hasn't got the personnel especially on the DL. That may be his fault too but none of us really know how much Pete weighs in on drafting and FA decisions.
 

Hawkinaz

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 1, 2012
Messages
1,486
Reaction score
1,022
Location
Henry County, Virginia
Honestly, the dynamic between coaching personnel is so convoluted, who really knows what anyone does anymore.

Sean Desai’s, title is what Assistant Head Coach? What exactly does that even mean?

Does he assist both offensive game planning and defensive game planning?

What does he think of the personnel Seattle has or going into next season, does he have any say on what players to draft?

Clint Hurtt, has to go. That’s a given.

Who replaces Hurtt and what kind of defensive system can they incorporate is up in the air. Is it still under Carroll’s scheme or does Carroll allow full permission to do whatever the DC wants?

The incoming DC will and probably should be allowed to have a say on the overhaul on defense.

I’m not entirely sure if Desai is the guy, honestly.
IMO the Asst Head Coach title is just in name and to keep Desai from being taken by another team unless it’s a head coach job. Perhaps PC is grooming him to take over when he decides to step down
 

NJlargent

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 11, 2011
Messages
2,303
Reaction score
235
No. Get someone from outside with fresh ideas. No more promoting from within.
 

Fade

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 13, 2014
Messages
5,454
Reaction score
2,988
Location
Truth Ray
Once upon a time you were allowed to actually play defense.

And Pete could sit back in predictable softzone, stay on top, have every gap accounted for, and wait around for the opposing offense to screw it up.

Then they changed the rules, combined with QBs being able to complete passes at rates never before seen.

Teams around the league adjusted, shifting to more aggressive coverages, blitzes, masking, etc. Anything they can do to disrupt the opposing offense because if you sit back and just play straight up, plain Jane-- your defense isn't getting off the field. (Sound familiar?)

You want the defense to change? Pete has to go. As long as he is here his philosophy will always trump whatever patsy DC brought in.
 

hawkfan68

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 3, 2007
Messages
10,006
Reaction score
1,702
Location
Sammamish, WA
Desai is in demand. Multiple teams, including recently Vikings and Dolphins have requested permission to interview him. He’s most likely gone. Meanwhile no one is asking permission to interview Clint Hurtt. How unfortunate.
 

Jville

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 3, 2007
Messages
13,281
Reaction score
1,668
In the event Hurtt is fired, does Desai take over? Do you want him to? If not then who would you prefer?

Between your original post and now, we now know that Clint Hurtt will see his second year as the Seahawks defensive coordinator.

Pete Carroll has a well deserved reputation as a players coach. I think his reputation as a coaches coach is under appreciated outside of the coaching ranks. When the NFL staffing music stopped last year, there wasn't a defensive coordinator position seat left for Desai. So, Pete being Pete and Clint being Clint created a special role for him.

1674413194863

Regardless of whether Desai stays put or accepts an offer elsewhere, the Seahawks coaching staff is in excellent shape and well staffed for year two. It must be a great comfort for Desai to know, that regardless of any no pressure decision he might make, the Seahawk's have got his back.
 

Jville

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 3, 2007
Messages
13,281
Reaction score
1,668
Could we get compensation for Desai?
I don't think so. Which gives Desai an ideal opportunity to chose his next career move with no strings attached.

Edited: Corrected Spelling
 
Last edited:

olyfan63

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 17, 2012
Messages
5,719
Reaction score
1,770
Watching the 49ers dismantle the Hawks defense in the playoff game, Brock Purdy had too many "large window" passing opportunities. Will be interesting to see if Dan Quinn's Cowboys D can turn those into "tight window" throws. Shanahan's offense made the Hawks D and especially the secondary, look BAD, unprepared, confused, incompetent. Clint Hurtt is ultimately the accountable party, but he's not a pass defense/secondary guy, so if Hurtt stays, I sure hope the Hawks have a plan to fix the back end communication and scheme failures.

 

Jville

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 3, 2007
Messages
13,281
Reaction score
1,668
Coach Karl Scott is the Defensive Passing Coordinator and Defensive Backs Coach. This past season was his first with the Seahawks. With better backfield continuity and experience, play should be a whole lot more reliable in 2023.

Here is a year old link of what he brings to the Seahawk defense >>> https://sports.mynorthwest.com/1580700/what-karl-scott-will-bring-to-the-seahawks-defense-secondary/

And the following is some excellent insight into what he brings to Seahawks coverage schemes .........



EDIT: .................. this is offered as a review for those who viewed it last year. But more importantly it's offered to those who missed it and spent the last year lost and confused about what schemes and rules they were installing.
 
Last edited:

olyfan63

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 17, 2012
Messages
5,719
Reaction score
1,770
Coach Karl Scott is the Defensive Passing Coordinator and Defensive Backs Coach. This past season was his first with the Seahawks. With better backfield continuity and experience, play should be a whole lot more reliable in 2023.

Here is a year old link of what he brings to the Seahawk defense >>> https://sports.mynorthwest.com/1580700/what-karl-scott-will-bring-to-the-seahawks-defense-secondary/

And the following is some excellent insight into what he brings to Seahawks coverage schemes .........



EDIT: .................. this is offered as a review for those who viewed it last year. But more importantly it's offered to those who missed it and spent the last year lost and confused about what schemes and rules they were installing.

Thank you for the info & the link! So we had several coaches in their rookie seasons, not just players. There are schemes, and then there is getting the players to effectively execute the scheme. Not to mention the process for figuring out how to be in the best defense to match up with what the offense is trying to do. Jamal Adams returning healthy for a whole season would sure help with the on-field leadership part.
 

Jville

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 3, 2007
Messages
13,281
Reaction score
1,668
Thank you for the info & the link! So we had several coaches in their rookie seasons, not just players. There are schemes, and then there is getting the players to effectively execute the scheme. Not to mention the process for figuring out how to be in the best defense to match up with what the offense is trying to do. Jamal Adams returning healthy for a whole season would sure help with the on-field leadership part.

Thanks for taking the time to read and click and listen. I wish more would follow your example. Coach Karl Scott's development was a product of Coach Nick Saban's system. The following link summaries Saban's defense. The more members, dot net has that make the effort to keep up with the evolution of Seahawk football, the richer forum discussion will become. So even though the Seahawk version will be a hybrid, we can enjoy and learn from where a most recent influence originated from ........

 

bileever

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 16, 2022
Messages
1,365
Reaction score
1,885
Those who are constantly calling for heads to roll don't understand that it's not that simple. Hiring a new DC isn't going to change anything without personnel changes. I agree that in football, more than in any other sport, coaching matters. But a good coach and a good scheme are not the only things that make for a successful team.

Hurtt has gotten way too much blame for the defense this year. Yes, there were issues, as might be expected from implementing a new scheme with new players. But the biggest problems this season came from the lack of talent in the front seven. No defensive game plan could have stopped the run with the D-line we had. Or the pass. We lost a future hall of fame MLB, and have been without quality interior linemen and pass rushers for some time. We have some nice, complementary pieces in Nwosu and Taylor, but they're not superstars. We all know the state of the linebacking corps. No one in the Seahawk front seven would be starting for the 49ers or Cowboys.

Hurtt was a sought out coach last off-season, and if we didn't promote him, he would have gotten another job. I trust Pete's judgment about his hires. (He was the same person who hired Gus Bradley, Dan Quinn, etc.) Hurtt hasn't proven himself yet, but I don't think you can judge him based on this past season.

We've fixed the secondary, and started to fix the O-line. Let's improve the D-line this off-season. There are not only players in the draft, but there are several great interior D-line players that will be free agents.
 

BASF

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 30, 2009
Messages
3,813
Reaction score
2,433
Location
Tijuana/San Diego
Those who are constantly calling for heads to roll don't understand that it's not that simple. Hiring a new DC isn't going to change anything without personnel changes. I agree that in football, more than in any other sport, coaching matters. But a good coach and a good scheme are not the only things that make for a successful team.

Hurtt has gotten way too much blame for the defense this year. Yes, there were issues, as might be expected from implementing a new scheme with new players. But the biggest problems this season came from the lack of talent in the front seven. No defensive game plan could have stopped the run with the D-line we had. Or the pass. We lost a future hall of fame MLB, and have been without quality interior linemen and pass rushers for some time. We have some nice, complementary pieces in Nwosu and Taylor, but they're not superstars. We all know the state of the linebacking corps. No one in the Seahawk front seven would be starting for the 49ers or Cowboys.

Hurtt was a sought out coach last off-season, and if we didn't promote him, he would have gotten another job. I trust Pete's judgment about his hires. (He was the same person who hired Gus Bradley, Dan Quinn, etc.) Hurtt hasn't proven himself yet, but I don't think you can judge him based on this past season.

We've fixed the secondary, and started to fix the O-line. Let's improve the D-line this off-season. There are not only players in the draft, but there are several great interior D-line players that will be free agents.
Hurtt as our defensive line coach since 2017 is directly responsible for the lack of talent on the defensive line. It was his teaching to the defensive line that has us in the position we are in. As many have stated the position coaches were given a lot of input into who we drafted for years, and that lays the blame directly on him for Collier and McDowell.

As far as the sought after aspect last season, a lot of the Fangio tree were sought after last season. Many of them were hired. Many teams regretted their defense's results last season.
 

12forlife

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 17, 2018
Messages
762
Reaction score
525
I dont feel it is even a question Clint Hurtt needs to be replaced. Yes we have some glaring holes in our Defense, and may not be all his fault, but our Def effort this season was Bush League. If your Def scheme & personnel can't turn it up when needed, and supply pressure, then we best get used to watching track meets like the 2nd half of the 9ers ass whoopin!
 

JPatera76

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Nov 29, 2015
Messages
6,310
Reaction score
4,731
I dont feel it is even a question Clint Hurtt needs to be replaced. Yes we have some glaring holes in our Defense, and may not be all his fault, but our Def effort this season was Bush League. If your Def scheme & personnel can't turn it up when needed, and supply pressure, then we best get used to watching track meets like the 2nd half of the 9ers ass whoopin!

My thing with Clint Hurtt is... being a line coach for a few years and then DC this yr... Why in countless games did we see the LINE itself lining up almost a yard or 2 from the LoS? Everytime they did it, all we did was leave wide open running lanes because it was easier for the Oline men to open the gaps up more and attack the Dline...

Kind of like all we see now half the time is the CB's dropping back presnap 5 yard or more off the WR instead of Jamming at the line or bumping like most teams do or did to our WR's and TE's disrupting the timing.
 
Last edited:

425HawkSpark

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 23, 2012
Messages
1,624
Reaction score
438
Location
Seattle
Pete is a creature of habit. He not firing hurt. He will give him at least one more year. He wants to be right about 3-4 switch than give up and say he was wrong to let it happen without proper personal for it.
 
Top