Seahawks reportedly turned down trade offer for Rashaad Penn

[IndyHawk]

One good game doesn't mean all of a sudden we were insane for not taking a 3rd rounder for Penny, if that was the offer.(He has had more than one good game)

And let's not forget Penny wasn't in the game because he deserved it, he was in the game because Pete's desperately trying to save Carson and not wear him out before the playoffs.(Carson fumbles..Enter Penny)

So yeah, great run by Penny. But he needs to have about 10 more games of what we saw yesterday before I'm willing to not take a 2nd or 3rd rounder for him.

(Even Carson does not have 10 good games like that)

A Penny for your thoughts.. :snack:

 

[quadsas]

One good game doesn't mean all of a sudden we were insane for not taking a 3rd rounder for Penny, if that was the offer.(He has had more than one good game)

And let's not forget Penny wasn't in the game because he deserved it, he was in the game because Pete's desperately trying to save Carson and not wear him out before the playoffs.(Carson fumbles..Enter Penny)

So yeah, great run by Penny. But he needs to have about 10 more games of what we saw yesterday before I'm willing to not take a 2nd or 3rd rounder for him.

(Even Carson does not have 10 good games like that)

A Penny for your thoughts.. :snack:

total nonsense

 

[Mad Dog]

One good game doesn't mean all of a sudden we were insane for not taking a 3rd rounder for Penny, if that was the offer.

And let's not forget Penny wasn't in the game because he deserved it, he was in the game because Pete's desperately trying to save Carson and not wear him out before the playoffs.

So yeah, great run by Penny. But he needs to have about 10 more games of what we saw yesterday before I'm willing to not take a 2nd or 3rd rounder for him.

Wow overvaluing a 3rd round pick for sure. Most end up as backups or special teamers. Penny is a backup and likely moving into 1B starter status moving forward.

I think teams need to have two good backs to succeed. The season is long, the game is brutal. Having a physical slasher and and home run threat is a big need these days. Bell cows just wear down too quickly otherwise.

There is no way a pick was more valuable than a player with Penny's gifts. Especially when we would be going forward with Prosise and Homer as our RB's if Carson got injured/benched and Penny traded.

I get that draft picks = hope for many fans. But trading Penny would be like winning 50 bucks in a lottery and spending all 50 bucks on more lottery tickets.

And Pete said Penny was getting his shot because he'd finally turned a corner in practice and was balling out. So he did "deserve" it. But since fans don't watch practice they tend to make wild assumptions based on their own narratives.

My narrative on Penny was that he was not prepared to be a professional and has taken a bit of time to "get it". Some people are not as driven and mature at 22 as others. I think he's figuring things out and knows his playbook and responsibilities better. Of course I have no evidence to back that up but it fits my world better than the "Penny sucks and will never be good" narrative.

 

[oldhawkfan]

One good game doesn't mean all of a sudden we were insane for not taking a 3rd rounder for Penny, if that was the offer.

And let's not forget Penny wasn't in the game because he deserved it, he was in the game because Pete's desperately trying to save Carson and not wear him out before the playoffs.

So yeah, great run by Penny. But he needs to have about 10 more games of what we saw yesterday before I'm willing to not take a 2nd or 3rd rounder for him.

10 more games like yesterday and it might just take a 2nd AND 3rd! Possibly more.

 

[hawkfan68]

One good game doesn't mean all of a sudden we were insane for not taking a 3rd rounder for Penny, if that was the offer.

And let's not forget Penny wasn't in the game because he deserved it, he was in the game because Pete's desperately trying to save Carson and not wear him out before the playoffs.

So yeah, great run by Penny. But he needs to have about 10 more games of what we saw yesterday before I'm willing to not take a 2nd or 3rd rounder for him.

Well I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

 

[justafan]

One good game doesn't mean all of a sudden we were insane for not taking a 3rd rounder for Penny, if that was the offer.

And let's not forget Penny wasn't in the game because he deserved it, he was in the game because Pete's desperately trying to save Carson and not wear him out before the playoffs.

So yeah, great run by Penny. But he needs to have about 10 more games of what we saw yesterday before I'm willing to not take a 2nd or 3rd rounder for him.

Actually Penny did deserve the playing time. Pete mention the way he has been practicing and has earned the playing time. Not to mention he outplayed Carson on that day. Coming off the bye week I dont think Pete was desperate to save Carsons legs but even if he was it is nice having the luxury of a quality RB to allow that option.

In the last quarter of a season where you are in the race for a HFA that alone is worth more than a 3rd round pick.
Unless you are just enamored with a 8-1 longshot of finding a starter in the 3rd round.

 

[sutz]

Those of us who are a bit worried that Carson is being overworked appreciate that Penny is:

1. Still here

and

2. Getting some carries to give Carson some rest leading into the critical time of the season.

:snack:

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I'm just glad the "12s" and/or seahawks dot negative crew isn't running the team :lol:

 

[sutz]

I'm just glad the "12s" and/or seahawks dot negative crew isn't running the team :lol:

Agreed. And that applies to all the keyboard geniuses who's livelihood doesn't depend on making the right choices.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

:2thumbs:

 

[justafan]

Egg on the face.

At least for 1 week, hopefully more.

No where near as bad as this gem though.

I would of taken a conditional 7th rd.....

Boy am I glad that team management doesn’t look to fan message boards for ways to make the team better.

If the Seahawks listened to me they would be a better team.

I know it. Im surprised the NFL hasnt recognized that fact and snapped you up. If they only knew you were better at coaching football and running a team than Pete and John combined.

You should put your resume out there.I am sure you have decades of experience playing,coaching and running major organizations like an NFL team.

 

[quadsas]

No where near as bad as this gem though.

Boy am I glad that team management doesn’t look to fan message boards for ways to make the team better.

If the Seahawks listened to me they would be a better team.

I know it. Im surprised the NFL hasnt recognized that fact and snapped you up. If they only knew you were better at coaching football and running a team than Pete and John combined.

You should put your resume out there.I am sure you have decades of experience playing,coaching and running major organizations like an NFL team.

Doesnt take a genius, or even a person with functioning brain to realise that 3rd rounder is much more valuable than Penny is

 

[OrangeGravy]

One good game doesn't mean all of a sudden we were insane for not taking a 3rd rounder for Penny, if that was the offer.

And let's not forget Penny wasn't in the game because he deserved it, he was in the game because Pete's desperately trying to save Carson and not wear him out before the playoffs.

So yeah, great run by Penny. But he needs to have about 10 more games of what we saw yesterday before I'm willing to not take a 2nd or 3rd rounder for him.

Has Carson even had 10 games like that?

 

[quadsas]

One good game doesn't mean all of a sudden we were insane for not taking a 3rd rounder for Penny, if that was the offer.

And let's not forget Penny wasn't in the game because he deserved it, he was in the game because Pete's desperately trying to save Carson and not wear him out before the playoffs.

So yeah, great run by Penny. But he needs to have about 10 more games of what we saw yesterday before I'm willing to not take a 2nd or 3rd rounder for him.

Has Carson even had 10 games like that?

I guess you do get 1200 yards rushing in 14/15 games by having 40 yard games...

 

[Largent80]

Pretty amazing to me that casual fans can hate on a guy so much. He of 134 rushing attempts. It's certainly why none of you would ever even sniff a position like GM of a pro sports team.

I'll take the opinions of Pete and John over anyone's regarding the Hawks.

 

[quadsas]

Pretty amazing to me that casual fans can hate on a guy so much. He of 134 rushing attempts. It's certainly why none of you would ever even sniff a position like GM of a pro sports team.

I'll take the opinions of Pete and John over anyone's regarding the Hawks.

people juxtapose their 'hatred' for Penny with how delusional and blind Penny lovers are. Noone actually hates him. He's just nowhere near as good as people who praise him and make retarded threads like 'penny haters can shut up' think

 

[Largent80]

We're fans of the Seahawks, not lovers or haters. Everyone has players they like, so what?...If it's such a pain to you don't read it,

Pretty childish to act like one on a message board.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

One good game doesn't mean all of a sudden we were insane for not taking a 3rd rounder for Penny, if that was the offer.

And let's not forget Penny wasn't in the game because he deserved it, he was in the game because Pete's desperately trying to save Carson and not wear him out before the playoffs.

So yeah, great run by Penny. But he needs to have about 10 more games of what we saw yesterday before I'm willing to not take a 2nd or 3rd rounder for him.

Has Carson even had 10 games like that?

Yep. Carson's been a top 10 RB in the league for almost two years now. So yes, I'm going to need a MUCH bigger sample size of Penny before I'm sold on not trading him for a high pick.

And I like Penny, but so far he's not been worth a 1st round pick. If you pick a RB in the first round, he better be your bell cow primary back. One good game doesn't change that for me.

7,8, 9, 10 games? Now I'm listening.

 

[SanDiego49er]

You don't trade Rashaad Penny for anything. He hasn't even scratched the surface yet of what he can do. You got a glimpse in the last game. If he can keep his weight in check you will see more of that. His weight was never an issue at San Diego State Aztecs BTW. So I'm surprised to see that as an issue. He is around 230 lbs. now. I would like to see him around 225 lbs. His speed is even more at that weight. He played at San Diego State between 220 lbs. - 228 lbs. He can go faster than what you saw in the last game even. But his speed is starting to get there and you can see it.

There was an adjustment time period with him. You line him up differently than how he was used in College. So the system is different and he was adjusting to that. Also he has gotten better in pass protection. It's not that he can't do it. It's that he had the ball in his hands at San Diego State. They didn't ask him to block much in College. So that was an adjustment for him too. He has gotten better at blocking and in your system. Not every player in NFL history is a huge star out of the gate in game 1 of year 1. It's really not strange or unusual to be better in year 2. In fact it is more the norm than not.

Penny is the fastest and most explosive RB on your roster. He can go faster than even what you have seen. I've seen a faster Penny than this. I would like to see him at 225 lbs. He is even faster there. I'm glad he got a nutritionist and is taking that seriously and addressing it. Weight was not an issue for him at San Diego State so I'm surprised to see it. But he is dealing with it and that is good. He is a 220+ lb. RB who can score from anywhere on the field. That is rare. Those guys don't grow on trees. You have a good lineup. You have thunder (Carson) and lightning (Penny). There is nothing wrong with having that in 2 different backs. In fact it's more common than not in the NFL. Those are usually different guys. I will add also that it's a misconception that Penny can't run fast at 220+ lbs. He is a big, powerful, explosive and fast RB. He was NEVER a little RB. So he doesn't need to be skinny. But I think 220 lbs. - 228 lbs. is super ideal for him and it's how he played at San Diego State. He had his top speed at that weight. He just doesn't want to be well above that.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

You don't trade Rashaad Penny for anything. He hasn't even scratched the surface yet of what he can do. You got a glimpse in the last game. If he can keep his weight in check you will see more of that. His weight was never an issue at San Diego State Aztecs BTW. So I'm surprised to see that as an issue. He is around 230 lbs. now. I would like to see him around 225 lbs. His speed is even more at that weight. He played at San Diego State between 220 lbs. - 228 lbs. He can go faster than what you saw in the last game even. But his speed is starting to get there and you can see it.

There was an adjustment time period with him. You line him up differently than how he was used in College. So the system is different and he was adjusting to that. Also he has gotten better in pass protection. It's not that he can't do it. It's that he had the ball in his hands at San Diego State. They didn't ask him to block much in College. So that was an adjustment for him too. He has gotten better at blocking and in your system. Not every player in NFL history is a huge star out of the gate in game 1 of year 1. It's really not strange or unusual to be better in year 2. In fact it is more the norm than not.

Penny is the fastest and most explosive RB on your roster. He can go faster than even what you have seen. I've seen a faster Penny than this. I would like to see him at 225 lbs. He is even faster there. I'm glad he got a nutritionist and is taking that seriously and addressing it. Weight was not an issue for him at San Diego State so I'm surprised to see it. But he is dealing with it and that is good. He is a 220+ lb. RB who can score from anywhere on the field. That is rare. Those guys don't grow on trees. You have a good lineup. You have thunder (Carson) and lightning (Penny). There is nothing wrong with having that in 2 different backs. In fact it's more common than not in the NFL. Those are usually different guys. I will add also that it's a misconception that Penny can't run fast at 220+ lbs. He is a big, powerful, explosive and fast RB. He was NEVER a little RB. So he doesn't need to be skinny. But I think 220 lbs. - 228 lbs. is super ideal for him and it's how he played at San Diego State. He had his top speed at that weight. He just doesn't want to be well above that.

Depends on if you're entertaining giving Carson an extension next off season, because believe me, he's going to be asking for one.

If not? Then I agree with you, you play hardball with Carson with the safety blanket of feeling comfortable with Penny as your primary back going forward.

But if you ARE going to give Carson a big extension to remain here for the next 3-4 years as your bell cow back? Then sorry, I'm entertaining high pick trade offers for Penny.

I'm not keeping him through the remainder of his rookie contract to take 10 snaps a game if I can get a 2nd rounder for him and use that for another starting position of need.