Seahawk innovation: We care about you

[sc85sis]

Great article. I like the fact the hawks are the team that can be the example. The quote from Matt Flynn was interesting, and not surprising considering he didn't win the starting job. I also loved the point of turning off the heat to see who, if anyone, would complain. Man, great read.

When I first read that, I thought he was talking about Carroll, but he's talking about himself. Guess he just didn't vibe here.

My take was that Flynn was complaining that because Pete is "rah rah" Flynn felt Pete expected him to be too, and since Matt isn't like that Pete automatically favored Russell.

I call BS. Pete expects guys to buy in. He expects them to follow the three rules. He doesn't expect all of them to be cheerleaders.

 

[taz291819]

Great article. I like the fact the hawks are the team that can be the example. The quote from Matt Flynn was interesting, and not surprising considering he didn't win the starting job. I also loved the point of turning off the heat to see who, if anyone, would complain. Man, great read.

When I first read that, I thought he was talking about Carroll, but he's talking about himself. Guess he just didn't vibe here.

Yeah, that was definitely Flynn talking about himself. It's been noted many times before that Flynn liked to keep to himself, do his own thing. There's nothing wrong with that per say, but on this team, it's not gonna gel.

That's one of the reasons I believe TJack is back. One, he bought in. Two, he's comfortable with being the back-up, he knows his role on this team. All in all, it's now a better fit for both him and the Seahawks.

 

[formido]

My guess is Deon Grant.

Hass said that it was a "big money" starter. Grant wasn't making that much, was he? Probably Housh.

Grant was one of the highest-paid safeties in the league while he was here.

And if the report is to be believed, it said that this took place during the first meetings of the season, which probably happened in March (soon after Caroll was hired) before the first minicamps before the draft. Grant was released in March (which would fit the one week later timetable).

All other big money starters, like Housh, were released in roster cutdowns. The report specifically says it was on the first day of meetings, and then the release was a week later.

The only other "big names" who were ejected around that time were Seneca Wallace (not a starter) and Darryl Tapp (not making big money...rookie contract). Both through trades.

It was Grant.

Good analysis.

 

[Scottemojo]

This is absolutely one of the coolest sports stories I have ever heard.

Innovation is not well received in sports, until it wins. Just read the comments. This is not a sports story, it's a human interest story.

 

[HawkAroundTheClock]

Great article. I like the fact the hawks are the team that can be the example. The quote from Matt Flynn was interesting, and not surprising considering he didn't win the starting job. I also loved the point of turning off the heat to see who, if anyone, would complain. Man, great read.

When I first read that, I thought he was talking about Carroll, but he's talking about himself. Guess he just didn't vibe here.

I did the exact same thing. It was presented as a knock against Carroll in the context of the story, but it had to be Flynn responding to questions about his stoic countenance on the sidelines. I guess I wouldn't be too rah-rah in his situation, either, but his vibe was definitely not here.

 

[Throwdown]

I think it was pretty apparent that Flynn wanted nothing to do with this franchise after Wilson beat him out.

So it kind of makes it enjoyable to watch him get destroyed in Oakland...

 

[nsport]

That picture of RW is funny as hell.

Looks like my avatar!

 

[rideaducati]

Great article. I've heard that the Seahawks do things differently, but until now never knew what was so different. It seems to be working quite well. There have been very few players that leave with bad things to say about the organization. The ones that have had parting shots were EXPECTING their jobs to be given to them without having to earn it.

This team is "deep" in so many ways.

 

[-The Glove-]

Can we now refer to PC as the football Zen Master? His approach is very Phil Jackson-esque.

 

[SmokinHawk]

Terrific article. Proud to support these guys.

I know Paul Allen has funded brain research in trying to better understand how the most important organ in the body functions: http://www.alleninstitute.org. I wonder if he influenced Carroll on this front or if there was just a shared philosophy?

I'm sure in the hard-nosed, alpha-male environment of pro-sports this stuff is discredited as too touchy-feely, but you have to wonder why guys like Jeremy Stevens and Koren Robinson, with all the physical ability in the world, fail; while at the same time guys like Largent, with average athleticism, succeed. The primary difference is their psychology. Many star athletes are raised in the most appalling cultural environments which predisposes them to self-destructive behavior. Addressing their issues and teaching them how to make positive choices seems logical and necessary.

Yep. Very well said.

 

[Happy]

That was just great.

It's awesome to be a fan of a team that's doing things the right way. I love it.

 

[SharkHawk]

Flynn is a real choad. I'm glad he's gone.

 

[drdiags]

It was a good look at what the team is doing that is counter to the norm. I don't have to read the comments section to know that it was seen as a touchy/feely way to do things and not the normal masculine thing to do for athletes. This article and the one about the uniform, as well as all the SI/ESPN articles along with Silver have me wondering what is going on in the sports world.

Will take me a little while to get my mind around all this. I guess Cowboy/Jets and the other media darlings fans now know how it feels to have slanted coverage shoved down your throat.

 

[HawkMeat]

Great article. I like the fact the hawks are the team that can be the example. The quote from Matt Flynn was interesting, and not surprising considering he didn't win the starting job. I also loved the point of turning off the heat to see who, if anyone, would complain. Man, great read.

When I first read that, I thought he was talking about Carroll, but he's talking about himself. Guess he just didn't vibe here.

I did the exact same thing. It was presented as a knock against Carroll in the context of the story, but it had to be Flynn responding to questions about his stoic countenance on the sidelines. I guess I wouldn't be too rah-rah in his situation, either, but his vibe was definitely not here.

Glad he is in Oakland now, moreso after reading the article. I had to share it with everyone I know, including non-hawk fans.

Go hawks.

 

[Thunderhawk]

It was a good look at what the team is doing that is counter to the norm. I don't have to read the comments section to know that it was seen as a touchy/feely way to do things and not the normal masculine thing to do for athletes. This article and the one about the uniform, as well as all the SI/ESPN articles along with Silver have me wondering what is going on in the sports world.

Will take me a little while to get my mind around all this. I guess Cowboy/Jets and the other media darlings fans now know how it feels to have slanted coverage shoved down your throat.

It does seem like we have entered some kind of bizarro universe when it comes to Seahawks coverage. I have been a diehard 12 since '83 and it has never been like this - even the Super Bowl year. Suddenly we're...cool? WTF? Can't wrap my head around it. I think I still prefer being the outsiders. I hope we never get a following like the Cowboys or Steelers. That type of moronic, front running fanboi stuff is cheap. It costs a lot to be a 12: the frustrating mediocrity, the agonizing losses, the championship denying league conspiracies - the price has been high but the faithful are soon to get paid. So the bandwagoners, seriously, need to GTFO. Reapply 20 years from now after Pete has retired, Schneider is NFL Commish, Russell is first ballot Hall Of Fame and the Seahawks are in their 10th straight year of suck. Then, when you're dues are finally paid, "welcome to The 12s".

 

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[joeseahawks]

Yup ... only on the West Coast. That's where America innovates.
Really happy to be a fan of this team.
I live in the South, something like that would be looked at in a weird way here.
I really hope the Hawks can win it all this year.
Joe

 

[mikeak]

Here us something else to consider. Life has a lot of hassles, we got to make dinner, get a haircut, pay bills, go to the gym etc

So if this works for guys and they truly believe all this stuff is part of their success then it is one more reason not to leave. Most other teams don't do this (Chip Kelly is supposedly going way out there with nutrition and tracking players) so if you get a non-guaranteed contract you probably want it somewhere where the team provides the way for you to succed and you don't want to have to arrange some of this yourself.

 

[DavidSeven]

In 2011, after graduating from NC State, Wilson decided he wanted to spend his last year of eligibility playing for Wisconsin. So he faxed a letter to then-Badgers coach Bret Bielema stating that he wanted to come to Madison, win a Big Ten title, be the conference QB of the year and go to the Rose Bowl. Bielema was impressed by the QB's resolve, welcomed Wilson and then watched as the fifth-year senior checked off every item.

Wow.

 

[DavidSeven]

After last year's crushing playoff loss to the Falcons, Wilson did just that. Walking off the field alongside his teammates, he felt the darkness creeping in as he entered the stadium tunnel. Then he stopped for a moment and closed his eyes. Instead of fixating on what could have been in the 30-28 defeat, he began to visualize what could be. "We have a bright, bright future," Wilson thought in the belly of the Georgia Dome. "The Seahawks can be special for a long time."

On the team bus, he made a beeline for Carroll, unable to keep his vision to himself. Then he paused for a second, not wanting his optimism to be confused with a lack of accountability for the loss. He began slowly before Carroll cut him off. "Man, that's just what I was thinking," the coach said. "Let's not just win one Super Bowl. Let's win multiple."

Chills.