Report: Hawks Players Don't Think RW is Black Enough

[hawknation2014]

This is one reason I love Hawaii. We are a melting pot. I believe we have 64 different nationalities living here full time. Racism is rife, but it's nothing like what I knew growing up in Milwaukee, Chicago or Houston. Basically harmless by comparison and it seems the Hawaiians aside, people are racist because they think they should be. So it's easier to sort their stupid ass' out.

lol, im sorry. I get everything you were saying. And im positive you just made a typo. But when you said 64 nationalities live there. I though of all my Japanese friends there, and this just made me die.

LOL.

rife
rīf
adjective
1.(especially of something undesirable or harmful) of common occurrence; widespread.
"male chauvinism was rife in medicine in those days"

Thats make far more sense. I even knew the word rife, and yet I couldnt see it. I just saw Racism is Life and instantly went asian slang.

Does that make me racist?

Super racialist. Nah, just funny as hell.

 

[razgriz737]

This is one reason I love Hawaii. We are a melting pot. I believe we have 64 different nationalities living here full time. Racism is rife, but it's nothing like what I knew growing up in Milwaukee, Chicago or Houston. Basically harmless by comparison and it seems the Hawaiians aside, people are racist because they think they should be. So it's easier to sort their stupid ass' out.

lol, im sorry. I get everything you were saying. And im positive you just made a typo. But when you said 64 nationalities live there. I though of all my Japanese friends there, and this just made me die.

LOL.

rife
rīf
adjective
1.(especially of something undesirable or harmful) of common occurrence; widespread.
"male chauvinism was rife in medicine in those days"

Oh my god. Laughing my ass off over here. No offense Cartire but that is funny as hell.

 

[Anthony!]

In all the race talk has been lost that reportedly in private, Russ doesn't take blame for mistakes. Which seems at odds with the very proper Russ who always seeks to say only positive things about his mates in public.

I wanted to add to this. We know that Wilson challenged Harvin to better himself. I'm pretty sure I've heard stories about Wilson challenging other players on other issues in the past.

To say that Wilson doesn't take blame is something to be careful with. If Wilson doesn't take the blame in a specific instance, I'm inclined to believe that he's being objective and simply wants to fix a problem that truly is owned by someone else. As anyone with a decent football IQ knows, not all mistakes a QB makes are the QBs fault. Wilson doesn't show up to watch film at 5am every day just to let these kinds of things slide.

It might bother some people, but it shouldn't. If they trust Wilson as a guy who just wants to win and fix things, they should trust his intentions, rather than paint him as a guy who can't admit he's wrong.

Just to add a little more. I have a hard time believing that a player who didn't take blame could last long on a team with a day of the week devoted to telling the truth. I also don't think that Wilson shows up before everyone else to watch film just to point out what everyone else did wrong.

I think kearly is spot on. Wilson is still young, and still has a lot of growth ahead of him, so I can see how him pointing out someone's mistakes can be taken the wrong way. I think some of the influence for this article came from seeing ADB yelling at Wilson on the sideline and Wilson refusing to engage back. As I recall he just continued to sip from his gatorade cup. And I also felt that the way Wilson referred to his play after the Dallas game was kind of like glossing over the issues. But I don't think that was a lack of self blame, but more out of a frustration with himself and not wanting to get into it with the media.

I can see how the perception is there, but I just can't believe that Wilson is above self blame. He's too good to be someone that refuses to fix his own mistakes.

He said in his press conference after the game he needs to play better, seem like taking responsibility to me. I think this is all from Harvin that is the source and no one else. All the rest is pure speculation base don what Harvin said and a few players being surprised he was traded. The rest speculation and crap journalism.

 

[HawkWow]

This is one reason I love Hawaii. We are a melting pot. I believe we have 64 different nationalities living here full time. Racism is rife, but it's nothing like what I knew growing up in Milwaukee, Chicago or Houston. Basically harmless by comparison and it seems the Hawaiians aside, people are racist because they think they should be. So it's easier to sort their stupid ass' out.

lol, im sorry. I get everything you were saying. And im positive you just made a typo. But when you said 64 nationalities live there. I though of all my Japanese friends there, and this just made me die.

I don't get the joke, Cartire (?). I would say the Hawaiians (and that can also just mean locals, as we don't really have many full blooded Hawaiians left) and the Japanese are the most racist people in the islands. The Japanese fancy themselves as elitists, are uber clannish and many with lots of money, treat others rather disrespectfully. But they are also for the most part intelligent and mask their prejudice rather well, when not openly abusive.

I will add here that I do like them a lot and have several as (excellent) employees. My top guy is Japanese and has been with me for 30 years. They don't steal shit, they maintain their properties and for the most part, leave everyone alone. Most of my neighbors are Japanese, I couldn't ask for better neighbors. I enjoy the fact they are rather stand-offish. It's a wave, a smile and that's that. I also visit Japan with regularity, so perhaps I've just grown use to them and their culture. But believe me, they are racist (here). That's the bad news. The good news is they are not picking fights or going out of their way to instigate problems. But if you are not Japanese and want their business? That's a very difficult road to navigate.

 

[irocdave]

Would that article have been written if Harvin had been traded to Jacksonville, Tampa, Oakland or some other franchise that the NFL has forgotten? NY media, huge market market = lots of clicks....

 

[chris98251]

I'm sorry, it's perception and stereotyping, A Black Man saying another man who identifies himself as Black but is mixed race, I think thats this generation and those moving forward will have less and less of this to deal with as mixed race families and relationships continue to grow as barriers and perceptions and Stereotypes fall away, there will always be the extremists but generally speaking things have come a long long way.

People call segments of the white population things as well, Traylor Trash, White Trash, to demean them for where they live, how they are educated, what their income level is. It again is perception and stereotyping. Those that move on to be affluent get accused of the same type of thing just different words, forgetting where you came from by acting different is what it comes down to, but not realizing changing is what help you succeed.

Harvin's history indicates he wants to remain whom he has always been, may not be bad, but it could hinder him from gaining success outside his of where he came from who don't understand or want to participate in his type of social nuances.

 

[brimsalabim]

What do we know about Russell Wilson? What negative qualities has he shown us? Consider everything you know of this and how he conducts himself. It's all positive. So by comparison I would argue that by using a term like "not black enough" to describe him is to imply that being black is a negative quality.. And that certainly seems racist to me.

 

[gargantual]

Can't we all just get along?

 

[Rocket]

Can't we all just get along?

Seriously... here? Us? After a LOSS?
Silly boy. :roll:

 

[Rocket]

I'm not sure, nor will I ever know, if Russell Carrington Wilson is "black enough". I do know, and am positively sure, that without his efforts none of last years Seahawks would have the Ring™.

That's all that's important. Colors are immaterial.

 

[HawKnPeppa]

I have a lot of respect for Freeman and do think he has good sources.

This is interesting.

Excuse me, but I'm noticing a trend here. Davis HSU speculates about RW and the locker room; you call it an 'interesting take.' Then Freeman has a similar take and suddenly you have all of this 'respect' for him. WTF?
I always found it such nonsensical, self-destructive BS when brothers come down on one if their own for actually speaking proper english and such. It's so comical talking with somebody that's articulate in thought and speech, then watching he or she dumb themselves down when they are with a group of brothers/sisters.

Who GAF if they think he's black enough. Dude is actually putting his education to use... imagine that! [emoji102]

 

[gargantual]

Can't we all just get along?

Seriously... here? Us? After a LOSS?
Silly boy. :roll:

Actually, that was my severely lame attempt at injecting humor. The reference is a tad old I suppose

 

[HansGruber]

like everything else around the Harvin story, it is mostly being fabricated by the media

 

[ZagHawk]

Hawks get a 2 win streak and all this negative media stuff stops.

 

[HawkWow]

like everything else around the Harvin story, it is mostly being fabricated by the media

LOL! You know this how?

 

[HawkWow]

Wouldn't it be a strange twist if we somehow learned Russ really isn't black enough?

 

[hawksincebirth]

Saw the words Bleacher Report and instantly stopped reading. Total crap.

You don't know what it's like to be a mixed, well-spoken black man then. Some blacks resent us.

Some blacks resent US ?? WOW

 

[hawksincebirth]

So first is first the not black enough thing is stupid as hell. The fact no sources are named or even quoted makes me wonder. As to the not owning up to his mistakes, ahh really I have not heard one interview were he has not. If any of this is true outside of PH then there are players that need to grow up or get out period. Given no other sports media has brought this up I am inclined to think there is some serious making something out of nothing going on. Added I have now seen it on another reports media sight but all they did was copy the original which again make me wonder. Also make me wonder pre PH nothing, post PH issues sounds like PH was a bigger problem then we thought. MY guess is there will be some house cleaning soon as well.

To the second part of your point isn't that what db said post game kinda ?

 

[hawksincebirth]

ukeface:

 

[Blitzer88]

Interesting.............Yup that's about all I got.