Re: KJ Wright Signs 4 year extension UPDATED WITH BREAKDOWN

[pmedic920]

We don't know the structure.

I'll bet anybody, a beer, that it ends up being more cap friendly than not.
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[cdallan]

What kind of question is that? If they're a regular poster on seahawks.net, but no one's ever seen or met him/her, he's undoubtedly obese and homely looking.

The only thing I take from your post is that you did very well to hide your astonishment when you met me and found I only weighed 185 pounds.

 

[hawkfan68]

If management sees KJ as one of the core guys, then it's the right deal to make to sign him. KJ has some bad games but so have many of the Seahawks. The Chiefs game was a bad game for KJ, Williams, and Hill. Not just KJ. Even with those guys not having their best games, the Seahawks would have won if Kearse didn't drop a sure TD pass.

IMO, this extension for KJ could mean that Cliff Avril may not be re-signed in the off-season.

 

[pehawk]

I'm not arguing with anyone, Pe. I'm openly laughing at the people on this forum who think they can watch a broadcast of a professional football game on TV, and think that makes them an expert on professional football scouting, coaching and management.

It is literally the equivalent of some stoner watching a heart surgery on cable TV, and then pontificating to their elderly father on why he shouldn't have that triple bypass. Never mind your cardiologist... I watch cable TV, I'm an expert!!

Simple fact - you and Scotte and everyone else on this forum doesn't have the slightest shred of knowledge about our players or how they perform, or how they will be graded by the coaching staff. Sure, you know when someone's really good (Wilson) or really bad (Whitehurst). But outside of those very extremes, you literally don't know anything. And it's hilarious listening to you guys pontificate as if you really do know what you're talking about. As if you are qualified to comment on any contract. You don't speak to the agents, you don't speak to the coaches, you don't speak to the scouts. You don't have the first clue what that player's value is, and it's hilariously pretentious to even pretend that you do. Especially when you add the passive-agressive attempts at martyrdom.

I'll be excited about the signing because Pete Carroll is excited about it. Pete Carroll has won multiple championships at multiple levels of the sport. He will be in the Hall of Fame. People will talk about his greatness 50 years after his death. You are a random nobody on the internet. I'll stick with the people who get paid for their expertise, and that doesn't include anyone on this forum.

You are tilting windmills. I said it seemed a bit steep. Shit, KJ said it was more than he expected, which means it was a bit steep.

So leave me out of your quest, Quixote.
You still think the Cards will win the West?

I don't appreciate Scott hanging us out to dry now. He's our leader...I actually conferred with him before forming my opinion.

Please don't leave us, Il Duce.

 

[seahawkfreak]

Per overthecap.com, the raw numbers would make KJ the highest paid 4-3 OLB in the NFL. He would be getting paid more than Von Miller...

I hope that contract is being misreported.

Isn't Von miller in his first contract?

 

[cdallan]

Per overthecap.com, the raw numbers would make KJ the highest paid 4-3 OLB in the NFL. He would be getting paid more than Von Miller...

I hope that contract is being misreported.

Isn't Von miller in his first contract?

Yes, but he was, what, the fourth pick in the draft, is in the last year of his regular rookie contract, and is probably the best 4-3 LB in the league.

Still, the point I was making is that this may make KJ the highest paid 4-3 OLB in the league.

 

[-The Glove-]

After reading this thread and mulling over my "shock" (don't know what other word to call it) at Wright being given a pretty big extension, it clearly shows this FO values versatility over almost everything. KJ right is a jack of all trades, master of none, and that, I am okay with

 

[pehawk]

After reading this thread and mulling over my "shock" (don't know what other word to call it) at Wright being given a pretty big extension, it clearly shows this FO values versatility over almost everything. KJ right is a jack of all trades, master of none, and that, I am okay with

Another valid point and good post. But, is that all? Maybe a generalized shot at the "haters"?

 

[-The Glove-]

After reading this thread and mulling over my "shock" (don't know what other word to call it) at Wright being given a pretty big extension, it clearly shows this FO values versatility over almost everything. KJ right is a jack of all trades, master of none, and that, I am okay with

Another valid point and good post. But, is that all? Maybe a generalized shot at the "haters"?

You can lump me in with the "haters" group, I guess...this season, I have been far from impressed with KJ's play. I dont ever focus on one player but certain players stand out, good or bad, and KJ seems to be one of them this season. Then again, Kam got the extension after a season I thought he was pretty average in.

 

[Tical21]

Not a KJ Hater by any stretch, actually think he is one of the best 4-3 OLB's in the game without question.

That said, there is no reason I ever (well, almost ever, Von Miller is pretty sweet) pay a 4-3 OLB this kind of money. It just isn't necessary. The difference between KJ and the average 4-3 OLB is pretty negligible. IMO there are at least 18 more important positions in your starting lineup.

I don't think this costs them Russell or Wagner, but I do think it costs them any chance at bringing in a stud WR (not that they really had a great chance at doing so anyways) or a big name interior lineman.

 

[MidwestHawker]

You are tilting windmills. I said it seemed a bit steep. Shit, KJ said it was more than he expected, which means it was a bit steep.

So leave me out of your quest, Quixote.
You still think the Cards will win the West?

The prediction wasn't that they would win the West. It was that they would win the Super Bowl. And that he would enjoy their Super Bowl win.

 

[rcaido]

I thought about it man i still dont like it....If not money for the OL, what about Lynch? Our main focus should be w/ Wagner, Wilson, & Lynch.

 

[Cartire]

I thought about it man i still dont like it....If not money for the OL, what about Lynch? Our main focus should be w/ Wagner, Wilson, & Lynch.

People really need to get over this "One or the Other" philosophy. It shows a complete lack of understanding on the structure of the contracts and how the salary cap is being staggered.

Every single one of those can still be handled. A $26 million deal is not even close to a cap killer.

 

[Hawkfan77]

Per overthecap.com, the raw numbers would make KJ the highest paid 4-3 OLB in the NFL. He would be getting paid more than Von Miller...

I hope that contract is being misreported.

Isn't Von miller in his first contract?

Yes, but he was, what, the fourth pick in the draft, is in the last year of his regular rookie contract, and is probably the best 4-3 LB in the league.

Still, the point I was making is that this may make KJ the highest paid 4-3 OLB in the league.

Your point doesn't matter. That was then this is now. The cap is getting higher and higher with every year. Players now will make more than players did last year, the year before and so on because teams have more money to spend.

In a years time, Sherman's contract might look like a bargain. Its the nature of the game. You're comparing a contract that you know nothing about to other players past contracts...it doesn't work that way

 

[Hawkfan77]

I thought about it man i still dont like it....If not money for the OL, what about Lynch? Our main focus should be w/ Wagner, Wilson, & Lynch.

All 3 are under contract for 2015...

 

[Jville]

I thought about it man i still dont like it....If not money for the OL, what about Lynch? Our main focus should be w/ Wagner, Wilson, & Lynch.

Don't worry. The team is in good hands.

My most simplistic explanation goes something like this ......

In the beginning, they patched together an offense consisting of existing players and some expensive free agents while using draft picks and undrafted free agents to build a defense that would grow together over time.

Today, they are extending the contracts of core defenders to continue the growth of that defense. And now, they can focus more on using draft picks and undrafted free agents to build an offense around Russell Wilson that will grow together over the course of the coming years.

They try and maintain simple and clear methods and goals. So far .... so good.

 

[TDOTSEAHAWK]

I don't get the big deal. Probably got about 9-10 in his last year which won't be paid out. His average for the first three years will be around 5.5 million.

Before this year, when he played strong side every game, he shut down a ton of opposing TEs.

I think he has got a bad rap this year cause he has played a different positions every game but in reality when he plays his spot - he is a stud. Moreover, the fact he has played a ton of positions says a lot of his important to this defense.

 

[Seafan]

I think signing him is part of a plan to keep our defense competitive for as long as possible. KJ is more than just an average OLB. He covers backs and TEs, has great range as a rusher as well. Can play any LB position on the team and like Wagner is sorely missed when not on the field. He's part of what makes the Hawk defense special. You can't replace that easily. JS has a great plan and it is definitely working.

 

[2_0_6]

When I first heard about this contract today on the radio, it did make me pause and wonder if we overpaid. But afyter thinking about it for a while. Schneider is a top 3 Gm in this league, he helped build this team from scratch, and seems to be ahead of the curve in most cases. These guys are not going to cash strap themselves knowing who is coming up on free agency. This does tell me the writing is on the wall for Malcom Smith.


Anyone remember their first reaction when Kam got resigned a few years ago before we really hit his stride?

 

[Scottemojo]

Not a KJ Hater by any stretch, actually think he is one of the best 4-3 OLB's in the game without question.

That said, there is no reason I ever (well, almost ever, Von Miller is pretty sweet) pay a 4-3 OLB this kind of money. It just isn't necessary. The difference between KJ and the average 4-3 OLB is pretty negligible. IMO there are at least 18 more important positions in your starting lineup.

I don't think this costs them Russell or Wagner, but I do think it costs them any chance at bringing in a stud WR (not that they really had a great chance at doing so anyways) or a big name interior lineman.

I guess that is part of it for me too. OLB is a bit fungible. Not for Curry, but for most.