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[Rex]

Bridgewater was lucky to have not been injured worse (unnecessarily) and your reflex is to pretend that it's not abhorrent.

He could have chosen to slide earlier or not at all. When a QB does slide the rules of physics doesn't change because he slides. Fisher and Williams are reputable coaches. That is a fact.

I think you meant, "the rules of physics don't change".

If he'd already launched, how would he begin to DROP, then change direction in the middle of Bridgewater's slide? Look at his feet. He didn't even have his second foot down yet to launch with.

Go ahead and explain those laws of physics for us.

Thanks, I agree....used doesn't because wanted to remain present tense in the sentence when instead the plural for rules should have dictated don't. I am NOT an english major.

He was trying to go over him. Happens all the time. Even the official right there didn't throw the flag.

 

[Rex]

Greg Williams is just additional to Fisher, you have the most enfamous coach for dirty tactics and the most enfamous DC for playing dirty.

The word is infamous. I agree others have that opinion but not me.

 

[Hawkpower]

Bridgewater was lucky to have not been injured worse (unnecessarily) and your reflex is to pretend that it's not abhorrent.

He could have chosen to slide earlier or not at all. When a QB does slide the rules of physics doesn't change because he slides. Fisher and Williams are reputable coaches. That is a fact.

I think you meant, "the rules of physics don't change".

If he'd already launched, how would he begin to DROP, then change direction in the middle of Bridgewater's slide? Look at his feet. He didn't even have his second foot down yet to launch with.

Go ahead and explain those laws of physics for us.

Thanks, I agree....used doesn't because wanted to remain present tense in the sentence when instead the plural for rules should have dictated don't. I am NOT an english major.

He was trying to go over him. Happens all the time. Even the official right there didn't throw the flag.

You are completely delusional. We are just laughing at you now. That video shows everything that needs to be shown.

Dirty play. Dirty team. Dirty coach. May as well just embrace it. Ask any player in the league. Multiple examples year after year. Trying to convince us otherwise is turning comical at this point.

 

[Largent80]

4 - 4 now with the schedule getting tough. Welcome back to earth.

 

[Rex]

4 - 4 now with the schedule getting tough. Welcome back to earth.

I see the Rams in every game with the possible exception of the Bengals. :th2thumbs:

 

[Scottemojo]

The Rams are the dumbest coaching staff in football.

3-0 vs the West. If they face a team twice a year, they can actually begin to put together a gameplan. But make the Rams Staff watch another team they haven't faced in a while, and what they come up with is so utterly stupid.
1-4 outside the West.

 

[Ramfan128]

It WAS a dirty hit by Joyner, but I don't believe he had any intent to take Bridgewater out. Hurt him? Yes...as I think all NFL defenders intend to hurt someone. I think his mindset was, "he's killing us with these scrambles, so if I hit him hard he'll think twice before scrambling again".

It's frustrating that the narrative here is that Fisher/Williams are dirty/cheap shot coaches. Seahawks fans think this because the most undisciplined game we played happened to be against the Hawks.

The 3 QBs that got injured against us before Teddy this year and last year, were all clean hits. The hit against Teddy outside of the pocket was a clean hit - as was explained in the broadcast, you're allowed to go low on a QB when he's out of the pocket. Hayes was trying to hit him, and hitting him low wasn't illegal - ergo it's not "dirty".

Under Fisher's tenure, the Rams have played undisciplined football - but this season we have really turned that around. We're in the top 5 in personal foul/unsportsmanlike conduct penalties this season.

So IMO, drudging up the narrative about Fisher/Williams is just plain lazy.

It's football - the reality is that no matter who you play against, your QB is going to get hit. The QB runs the risk of getting injured anytime he crosses the LOS.

I admit it was dirty, because it was. That doesn't mean the Rams are dirty, or even that Joyner himself is a dirty player - we as people do stupid things without actually being stupid. He did something bad, and he will probably pay for it. I'd have no problem with the NFL suspending him. That will all be taken care of.

Now we should just move on. Contrary to popular belief, the Rams are not a dirty team. I have NO problem with a player on my team hitting a QB that's been killing us by running the ball, a little late. I wish he wouldn't have hit him in the head, but I don't think he can possibly have meant to do that. It sucks that Bridgewater went out, and I hope he recovers and can play next week.


But seeing this and filing it under "Fisher and Williams are dirty" is just lazy. We've come a long way and it's sad that after a bang/bang play with likely no ill intent, it's back to "the Rams are dirty".

It would be like a Seahawks player getting caught with PEDs and me saying "Seahawks cheat" - it's lazy, and it's not looking at each individual scenario.

 

[Ramfan128]

The Rams are the dumbest coaching staff in football.

3-0 vs the West. If they face a team twice a year, they can actually begin to put together a gameplan. But make the Rams Staff watch another team they haven't faced in a while, and what they come up with is so utterly stupid.
1-4 outside the West.

The Rams don't have the dumbest coaching staff in football. Staff is pretty good.

But we do need to start beating teams outside the West...especially on the road. Next two weeks are huge.

But this Vikings game? Went to OT....and we had multiple opportunities to win the game. So I'd put it more on execution by the players rather than the staff.

 

[Uncle Si]

It WAS a dirty hit by Joyner, but I don't believe he had any intent to take Bridgewater out. Hurt him? Yes...as I think all NFL defenders intend to hurt someone. I think his mindset was, "he's killing us with these scrambles, so if I hit him hard he'll think twice before scrambling again".

It's frustrating that the narrative here is that Fisher/Williams are dirty/cheap shot coaches. Seahawks fans think this because the most undisciplined game we played happened to be against the Hawks.

The 3 QBs that got injured against us before Teddy this year and last year, were all clean hits. The hit against Teddy outside of the pocket was a clean hit - as was explained in the broadcast, you're allowed to go low on a QB when he's out of the pocket. Hayes was trying to hit him, and hitting him low wasn't illegal - ergo it's not "dirty".

Under Fisher's tenure, the Rams have played undisciplined football - but this season we have really turned that around. We're in the top 5 in personal foul/unsportsmanlike conduct penalties this season.

So IMO, drudging up the narrative about Fisher/Williams is just plain lazy.

It's football - the reality is that no matter who you play against, your QB is going to get hit. The QB runs the risk of getting injured anytime he crosses the LOS.

I admit it was dirty, because it was. That doesn't mean the Rams are dirty, or even that Joyner himself is a dirty player - we as people do stupid things without actually being stupid. He did something bad, and he will probably pay for it. I'd have no problem with the NFL suspending him. That will all be taken care of.

Now we should just move on. Contrary to popular belief, the Rams are not a dirty team. I have NO problem with a player on my team hitting a QB that's been killing us by running the ball, a little late. I wish he wouldn't have hit him in the head, but I don't think he can possibly have meant to do that. It sucks that Bridgewater went out, and I hope he recovers and can play next week.


But seeing this and filing it under "Fisher and Williams are dirty" is just lazy. We've come a long way and it's sad that after a bang/bang play with likely no ill intent, it's back to "the Rams are dirty".

It would be like a Seahawks player getting caught with PEDs and me saying "Seahawks cheat" - it's lazy, and it's not looking at each individual scenario.

I think this is a fair post....

I'd chalk Joyners hit up to recklessness more than anything...except to Rex. For him I believe Joyners hit is a direct reflection of Rex. He should be ashamed...

 

[Largent80]

4 - 4 now with the schedule getting tough. Welcome back to earth.

I see the Rams in every game with the possible exception of the Bengals. :th2thumbs:

They were really "in the game" yesterday.... :lol: OT?..big deal, a LOSS.

 

[rideaducati]

It WAS a dirty hit by Joyner, but I don't believe he had any intent to take Bridgewater out. Hurt him? Yes...as I think all NFL defenders intend to hurt someone. I think his mindset was, "he's killing us with these scrambles, so if I hit him hard he'll think twice before scrambling again".

It's frustrating that the narrative here is that Fisher/Williams are dirty/cheap shot coaches. Seahawks fans think this because the most undisciplined game we played happened to be against the Hawks.

The 3 QBs that got injured against us before Teddy this year and last year, were all clean hits. The hit against Teddy outside of the pocket was a clean hit - as was explained in the broadcast, you're allowed to go low on a QB when he's out of the pocket. Hayes was trying to hit him, and hitting him low wasn't illegal - ergo it's not "dirty".

Under Fisher's tenure, the Rams have played undisciplined football - but this season we have really turned that around. We're in the top 5 in personal foul/unsportsmanlike conduct penalties this season.

So IMO, drudging up the narrative about Fisher/Williams is just plain lazy.

It's football - the reality is that no matter who you play against, your QB is going to get hit. The QB runs the risk of getting injured anytime he crosses the LOS.

I admit it was dirty, because it was. That doesn't mean the Rams are dirty, or even that Joyner himself is a dirty player - we as people do stupid things without actually being stupid. He did something bad, and he will probably pay for it. I'd have no problem with the NFL suspending him. That will all be taken care of.

Now we should just move on. Contrary to popular belief, the Rams are not a dirty team. I have NO problem with a player on my team hitting a QB that's been killing us by running the ball, a little late. I wish he wouldn't have hit him in the head, but I don't think he can possibly have meant to do that. It sucks that Bridgewater went out, and I hope he recovers and can play next week.


But seeing this and filing it under "Fisher and Williams are dirty" is just lazy. We've come a long way and it's sad that after a bang/bang play with likely no ill intent, it's back to "the Rams are dirty".

It would be like a Seahawks player getting caught with PEDs and me saying "Seahawks cheat" - it's lazy, and it's not looking at each individual scenario.

The Rams are DIRTY and CHEAP SHOT ARTISTS. Watch the Rams players when getting up from the piles and you will notice a push to the throat or helmet or a knee to a back or thigh to help themselves up. I don't mind the hard hits during play, but I see the little things the Rams do as cheap and dirty. That isn't a lazy assumption because I have seen it with my own eyes more from the Rams than most other teams.

The niners of the past few years were doing that garbage a lot too. I'm seeing more coming from the packers and Broncos than usual too. That punk ass stuff is cheap and dirty and should be taken out of the game.

The Rams are really good at getting a head shot on every tackle they can when it is legal too. Most teams tackle the body, the Rams tackle by the head.

 

[Rex]

I think this is a fair post....

I'd chalk Joyners hit up to recklessness more than anything...except to Rex. For him I believe Joyners hit is a direct reflection of Rex. He should be ashamed...

Explain. I said the hit was unfortunate and unintentional.

 

[Rex]

4 - 4 now with the schedule getting tough. Welcome back to earth.

I see the Rams in every game with the possible exception of the Bengals. :th2thumbs:

They were really "in the game" yesterday.... :lol: OT?..big deal, a LOSS.

Yes with the worst passing attack in the NFL and their second string defense starting they were definitely in that game.

 

[ringless]

4 - 4 now with the schedule getting tough. Welcome back to earth.

I see the Rams in every game with the possible exception of the Bengals. :th2thumbs:

They were really "in the game" yesterday.... :lol: OT?..big deal, a LOSS.

Yes with the worst passing attack in the NFL and their second string defense starting they were definitely in that game.

I heard Terry Bridgewater was missing too

 

[Rex]

I heard Terry Bridgewater was missing too

Yes after he made the unfortunate decision to go for the first down instead of going down.

 

[Hawkpower]

Yeah that should teach him.

Compete and you will get knocked out. Literally.

Of course, you continue to conveniently ignore the fact that HE WAS ALREADY DOWN when your boy launched at his head. So it mattered little what Bridgewater did.

So other than that little tiny omission, your repeated mantra is spot on.

Deluuuuuuuusion.

 

[Ramfan128]

It WAS a dirty hit by Joyner, but I don't believe he had any intent to take Bridgewater out. Hurt him? Yes...as I think all NFL defenders intend to hurt someone. I think his mindset was, "he's killing us with these scrambles, so if I hit him hard he'll think twice before scrambling again".

It's frustrating that the narrative here is that Fisher/Williams are dirty/cheap shot coaches. Seahawks fans think this because the most undisciplined game we played happened to be against the Hawks.

The 3 QBs that got injured against us before Teddy this year and last year, were all clean hits. The hit against Teddy outside of the pocket was a clean hit - as was explained in the broadcast, you're allowed to go low on a QB when he's out of the pocket. Hayes was trying to hit him, and hitting him low wasn't illegal - ergo it's not "dirty".

Under Fisher's tenure, the Rams have played undisciplined football - but this season we have really turned that around. We're in the top 5 in personal foul/unsportsmanlike conduct penalties this season.

So IMO, drudging up the narrative about Fisher/Williams is just plain lazy.

It's football - the reality is that no matter who you play against, your QB is going to get hit. The QB runs the risk of getting injured anytime he crosses the LOS.

I admit it was dirty, because it was. That doesn't mean the Rams are dirty, or even that Joyner himself is a dirty player - we as people do stupid things without actually being stupid. He did something bad, and he will probably pay for it. I'd have no problem with the NFL suspending him. That will all be taken care of.

Now we should just move on. Contrary to popular belief, the Rams are not a dirty team. I have NO problem with a player on my team hitting a QB that's been killing us by running the ball, a little late. I wish he wouldn't have hit him in the head, but I don't think he can possibly have meant to do that. It sucks that Bridgewater went out, and I hope he recovers and can play next week.


But seeing this and filing it under "Fisher and Williams are dirty" is just lazy. We've come a long way and it's sad that after a bang/bang play with likely no ill intent, it's back to "the Rams are dirty".

It would be like a Seahawks player getting caught with PEDs and me saying "Seahawks cheat" - it's lazy, and it's not looking at each individual scenario.

The Rams are DIRTY and CHEAP SHOT ARTISTS. Watch the Rams players when getting up from the piles and you will notice a push to the throat or helmet or a knee to a back or thigh to help themselves up. I don't mind the hard hits during play, but I see the little things the Rams do as cheap and dirty. That isn't a lazy assumption because I have seen it with my own eyes more from the Rams than most other teams.

The niners of the past few years were doing that garbage a lot too. I'm seeing more coming from the packers and Broncos than usual too. That punk ass stuff is cheap and dirty and should be taken out of the game.

The Rams are really good at getting a head shot on every tackle they can when it is legal too. Most teams tackle the body, the Rams tackle by the head.

You're wrong. And I'm pretty sure I watch the Rams A LOT more than you do.

To make the comment that you "see it with your own eyes more from the Rams than most other teams" must mean you watch literally every play of every NFL game.....which we know isn't true. In fact, aside from highlights, I'd bet that there are some teams that you haven't seen play a single down. So you cannot accurately make the statement that the Rams do little stuff after a play than other teams when you can't possibly know that.

The Rams are not the same team that they were two years ago.

 

[Ramfan128]

Yeah that should teach him.

Compete and you will get knocked out. Literally.

Of course, you continue to conveniently ignore the fact that HE WAS ALREADY DOWN when your boy launched at his head. So it mattered little what Bridgewater did.

So other than that little tiny omission, your repeated mantra is spot on.

Deluuuuuuuusion.

I agree that the hit was bad and shouldn't have happened....but factually speaking, Bridgewater started his slide around the same time that Joyner launched himself - meaning he was not down when Joyner launched.

There have been hits worse than this...let's not act like it's the worst thing to every happen in an NFL game.

 

[Hawkpower]

Yeah that should teach him.

Compete and you will get knocked out. Literally.

Of course, you continue to conveniently ignore the fact that HE WAS ALREADY DOWN when your boy launched at his head. So it mattered little what Bridgewater did.

So other than that little tiny omission, your repeated mantra is spot on.

Deluuuuuuuusion.

I agree that the hit was bad and shouldn't have happened....but factually speaking, Bridgewater started his slide around the same time that Joyner launched himself - meaning he was not down when Joyner launched.

There have been hits worse than this...let's not act like it's the worst thing to every happen in an NFL game.

Go back and look at screen shots and video prior to these. You will see that you are quite incorrect. Not only did Teddy begin his slide before Joyner launched, his knee was well down prior as well.

So, no. Incorrect sir.

And maybe not the worst hit in history, but considering the team that administered it (AGAIN) and considering a few of your brethren are over here defending it, well, that's why this is getting dragged out as it is.

 

[chris98251]

Says the Ex Ram, Rodney Harrison has a different version, in fact he said after they took his knee out when he was playing Fisher was laughing about it.

Rodney Harrison? Rodney Harrison made his career headhunting! He was a menace. Can't compare Joyner to Harrison. The entire league smiled when karma found him.

Well it's a reference to the type of Coach Fisher is.