Question for any insider source about last year's FAs?

[pehawk]

Rat v English? This is like the Intercontinental belt, not even the Heavyweight Belt. One has Whithurst and the other a bunch of Brits (ie gays).

 

[Recon_Hawk]

Assholes calling them out and then chastising them if someone turned down an invitation or wasn't signed ruined that insightful information from being posted regularly. Those same asswipes figured if it wasn't done exactly the way it was posted that the insider was a liar and self promoting themselves in many retalitory posts.

Just wanted to say thanks for making .Net a little less special because of that.

It goes both ways. Even those who offer intelligent, counter-arguments against inside info are often quickly dismissed by those who believe the inside info to be true. And the thing is, almost nothing we say can change those people's mind, so instead of discussing reasoning and analysis for certain prospects and free agent moves, we're left arguing the "sources" credentials instead. I much prefer how it's been this off season where people are open-minded and discussing all the possible moves our team can make instead of only a few.

 

[Spokane]

Rat v English? This is like the Intercontinental belt, not even the Heavyweight Belt. One has Whithurst and the other a bunch of Brits (ie gays).

Super funny!

Truth be told there are no REAL inside sources. Do you think JS and PC are handing out info to anyone? No. Why would they? It would cost them in the long run as a person who can't be trusted. So what has happened and what will happen is a few smoke screens until the true action.

EVERYONE and their dog knows the hawks need D-line help, So anyone could say "My guy said watch for a FA or early round pick for a D-line player"

 

[pehawk]

I kid because I love 'em.

Although, I dont believe Rat likes anyone, really, so why should English even take the bait?

 

[Rat]

I kid because I love 'em.

Although, I dont believe Rat likes anyone, really, so why should English even take the bait?

That does sound like me. I'm a pretty miserable person. I'm fine with most of the people here though.

 

[pehawk]

English cracks me up. He's like a sensitive girlfriend who over-analyzes what you REALLY meant by "how are ya?". Can't speak to him without him taking it as a passive-aggressive attack.

 

[chris98251]

Assholes calling them out and then chastising them if someone turned down an invitation or wasn't signed ruined that insightful information from being posted regularly. Those same asswipes figured if it wasn't done exactly the way it was posted that the insider was a liar and self promoting themselves in many retalitory posts.

Just wanted to say thanks for making .Net a little less special because of that.

It goes both ways. Even those who offer intelligent, counter-arguments against inside info are often quickly dismissed by those who believe the inside info to be true. And the thing is, almost nothing we say can change those people's mind, so instead of discussing reasoning and analysis for certain prospects and free agent moves, we're left arguing the "sources" credentials instead. I much prefer how it's been this off season where people are open-minded and discussing all the possible moves our team can make instead of only a few.

Well challangeing the source vs discussing the information given has always been a balancing act whether it's inside information, someones blog post or just some numb nut like me bringing up a topic. I have got into discussions from opposite sides with probably most people here over the years. As we get older we don't make every difference of opinion an arguement or war. There seems to be a focus on I have to be right a lot. When thats the focal point instead of the perspective they are trying to discuss thats where we go off the rails and get into our personality battles.

 

[Recon_Hawk]

Assholes calling them out and then chastising them if someone turned down an invitation or wasn't signed ruined that insightful information from being posted regularly. Those same asswipes figured if it wasn't done exactly the way it was posted that the insider was a liar and self promoting themselves in many retalitory posts.

Just wanted to say thanks for making .Net a little less special because of that.

It goes both ways. Even those who offer intelligent, counter-arguments against inside info are often quickly dismissed by those who believe the inside info to be true. And the thing is, almost nothing we say can change those people's mind, so instead of discussing reasoning and analysis for certain prospects and free agent moves, we're left arguing the "sources" credentials instead. I much prefer how it's been this off season where people are open-minded and discussing all the possible moves our team can make instead of only a few.

Well challangeing the source vs discussing the information given has always been a balancing act whether it's inside information, someones blog post or just some numb nut like me bringing up a topic. I have got into discussions from opposite sides with probably most people here over the years. As we get older we don't make every difference of opinion an arguement or war. There seems to be a focus on I have to be right a lot. When thats the focal point instead of the perspective they are trying to discuss thats where we go off the rails and get into our personality battles.

Great points...This is where I'm coming from. I see no problem challenging at least the source information. Now, not the source, but they information they are giving. If something doesn't make sense, then it should be discussed and even argued against. The problem I've seen when discussing inside info is that it's usually not a difference of personal opinions at that point. It's more of an opinion vs source argument, with those thinking that if the source is absolutely correct then any other opinion doesn't matter. And that's really not a discussion. That's why I liked this offseason so far. Everyone has their own opinion. It's refreshing not focusing solely on a handful of possible draft picks or free agents we may sign.

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

It's not irrational. It was personal and earned by somebody with no class.

I think I've had one conversation with you ever, and it was a PM from you trying to explain that you weren't the poster called 'RAT' who'd posted a vile and offensive message on my blog.

But yeah... nothing irrational about an unspecified internet flounce. Maybe you're the one person I've ever had to ban from the blog, who persists to this day with sending me emails and messages under various different pseudonyms (Hi Janet)?

That would make sense. :th2thumbs:

 

[AgentDib]

Do you guys actually want people to post credible inside information about the Seahawks in this public venue? The best case scenario is that even the real info from the FO is distributed as a smoke screen. If other teams believed that we were really going after Carson Palmer than that only helped us, right? There is a reason that teams try not to divulge their plans to the entire world and I'm sure that most of you are actually in support of that, despite momentary offseason boredom tricking you into thinking otherwise.

I also don't get the outrage from skeptics. The people who like the rumor stuff are never the ones who get upset when stuff turns out to be false. The people who get upset are the ones who were skeptical all along and don't like that "gullible" people enjoyed the false rumor. Who cares? Let them have their fun.

On that note, I too have an inside source. If Johnathan Hankins is on the board at #21 we will definitely not be trading up with the Bengals to grab him while they drop four spots to select Manti Te'o. That is simply not going to happen so you can factor it out of your plans immediately.

 

[pehawk]

It's not irrational. It was personal and earned by somebody with no class.

I think I've had one conversation with you ever, and it was a PM from you trying to explain that you weren't the poster called 'RAT' who'd posted a vile and offensive message on my blog.

But yeah... nothing irrational about an unspecified internet flounce. Maybe you're the one person I've ever had to ban from the blog, who persists to this day with sending me emails and messages under various different pseudonyms (Hi Janet)?

That would make sense. :th2thumbs:

I haven't used Janet in a LONG time.

 

[pehawk]

Another thought, why couldn't any of the inside scoop peeps grow a thicker skin and take the criticisms from the peanut gallery? Who cares, really? It's okay too be wrong...even though alot act like its a sin.

 

[Hasselbeck]

-Their interest in Manning was mostly for appearances, although if Manning had visited and begged us to sign him, I doubt they would have said no.

I call BS x 100 here. We were very interested in Peyton, and as you watched him this season you could see why we would be, it just wasn't mutual.

It's kind of like the dude that gets rejected at the bar by a hot chick then tells his buddies "Ha! I didn't want her anyway!"

In the end, it obviously worked out better for us since we have at least 10-12 years of Wilson compared to 2 with Peyton. But the Seahawks WERE very interested in Peyton. I have no doubt in my mind.

 

[NYCoug]

Another thought, why couldn't any of the inside scoop peeps grow a thicker skin and take the criticisms from the peanut gallery? Who cares, really? It's okay too be wrong...even though alot act like its a sin.

The generations of people born with thick skin are mostly gone. Now, everyone's feelings get hurt and their panties in a bunch but that's a different topic for a different forum, I think. But you hit the nail right on the head pe, and I agree with you.

Rat vs. English for the Intercontinental Title? So, English is DEFINITELY the British Bulldog. Is Rat Razor Ramon? Michaels? Maybe IRS since he admittedly is a miserable bastard who likes no one? The possibilities are endless!

 

[RolandDeschain]

Rat vs. English for the Intercontinental Title? So, English is DEFINITELY the British Bulldog. Is Rat Razor Ramon? Michaels? Maybe IRS since he admittedly is a miserable bastard who likes no one? The possibilities are endless!

Rat's a Jack-Russell Terrier. Yippy little thing running around annoying people and attention-whoring for the sake of it. I'm talking about the dog, so I don't get banned.

 

[NYCoug]

Rat vs. English for the Intercontinental Title? So, English is DEFINITELY the British Bulldog. Is Rat Razor Ramon? Michaels? Maybe IRS since he admittedly is a miserable bastard who likes no one? The possibilities are endless!

Rat's a Jack-Russell Terrier. Yippy little thing running around annoying people and attention-whoring for the sake of it. I'm talking about the dog, so I don't get banned.

So he's X-Pac then. Gotcha! :th2thumbs:

 

[pehawk]

There's ALOT of peeps afraid to be wrong over all else.

He doesn't need anymore fluffing, but the fact kearly was full-frontal with his post-draft love of Wilson, says alot. I'm sure other respected individuals had similar feelings, but the fear of being wrong and the uniqueness of Wilson's size made it "risky" to state those feelings.

Yes, again, that a-hole kearly gets kudos. Makes me sick.

 

[Rat]

It's not irrational. It was personal and earned by somebody with no class.

I think I've had one conversation with you ever, and it was a PM from you trying to explain that you weren't the poster called 'RAT' who'd posted a vile and offensive message on my blog.

Yep, I used to go to your site all the time, would tell others about it, etc. I don't know why somebody used my .net handle to troll your site, but it wasn't me. Kearly alerted me to it, because he didn't think it sounded like me. I felt really, really bad, because I had a lot of respect for you as an analyst, and didn't want you to think I would post things like what this anonymous poster did on your site. I sent you three apology messages: one on the blog, one on a thread here, and the PM you mentioned. Your response was completely classless, and now I'm done with your site, which I'm sure you don't give a crap about, but whatever. There are plenty of other places out there for draft info.

 

[HawkGA]

I had some "inside info" about 6 years ago about a player the Seahawks were looking at in the draft. I opted not to post anything because I figured it was far from a lock that he would get drafted and I figured I didn't want my non-existent rep as an inside source guy to take a hit. They didn't draft him so it was probably a wise decision. I can't even remember the player at the moment, but I do remember the player I was interacting with when I got said inside information. I'll always remember him as the person I helped go pro and make more money than I ever will. He failed my class, had to declare for the draft, and was still in the NFL until recently. Nice kid. Didn't do his homework though.

I also had Leroy Hill's cousin in a couple of classes. She never provided any inside info though. I did, however, tell her I'd do a change of grade on her and fail her if he didn't resign with the Hawks. Fortunately he did resign and I didn't have to follow through with my threat.

Another of my students was an undrafted free agent with the Hawks. He didn't make the team though.

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

Yep, I used to go to your site all the time, would tell others about it, etc. I don't know why somebody used my .net handle to troll your site, but it wasn't me. Kearly alerted me to it, because he didn't think it sounded like me. I felt really, really bad, because I had a lot of respect for you as an analyst, and didn't want you to think I would post things like what this anonymous poster did on your site. I sent you three apology messages: one on the blog, one on a thread here, and the PM you mentioned. Your response was completely classless, and now I'm done with your site, which I'm sure you don't give a crap about, but whatever. There are plenty of other places out there for draft info.

The only response I recall making was a brief reply via PM saying 'don't worry about it'.