Prisco asks if Wilson is much more than a game manager

[RolandDeschain]

I saw Pete Prisco with this Tweet a few minutes ago:

Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS 11m
I ask this in all seriousness after studying him for the past week: Is Russell Wilson much more than a game manager?

So, I send him two Tweets:

James Barr ‏@RageFury100 9m
@PriscoCBS I think the real question is, when's the last time plays were called that required/allowed him to be more than just that?

James Barr ‏@RageFury100 8m
@PriscoCBS Offensive coordinator Bevell calls conservative junk almost always unless we get well behind, see @ Atlanta last year.

He then responds with:

Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS 6m
@RageFury100 I agree

Interesting, I thought. My initial responses to him were definitely tinged with some indignation... I guess he's not really bashing Wilson, but Bevell?

 

[HawkRiderFan]

Ask him if "game managers" make that throw to Kearse or scramble around and make the play to Baldwin.
Thinking back now, Wilson, accuracy was even better than the 16-25 (right?) would suggest. Didn't he have at least 3 thow aways? He just missed on a corner to Kearse in the first quarter, was on the money with one to him in the third that got knocked away. He was also on target on the seam route to Willson.

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

More Bevell bashing.

Despite the fact our offense was ranked #7 in DVOA and we're in the Super Bowl.

And despite not having Percy the whole year and having missed the two starting tackles for most of the season. Plus Rice's been out.

 

[HawkRiderFan]

Apologies if you guys brought this up already and I missed it. Props to Bevell for making the change to go with an extra o-lineman so much in that game when we were having trouble early blocking the Niner front 7. That seemed to really help the running game get going. I don't recall a lot of that early

 

[RolandDeschain]

All the credit goes to the OC for what offense we've had, but none of the blame, eh? Alright.

 

[themunn]

Twitter is terrible for gauging tone though,

I can say basically the same thing and get two different meanings, I added in an extra word that

"Is Wilson much more than a game manager?"
"Is Wilson really much more than a game manager"

One is questioning the narrative that he is a game manager, the other is suggesting he is.
Given his response to you, it would appear he was going with the former

It doesn't look like he's bashing anyone to me, just that he's suggesting "hey, actually, is it just me or is Wilson actually something kind of special?"

 

[RolandDeschain]

I wish we had a more bold offense, because I think Russell could certainly do more if called to/asked to.

 

[themunn]

It's tough, I mean we are well aware of what Wilson can do when the reins are let off, but we're winning games and so it's hard to argue with the approach.

I imagine part of the conservative offense is so as not to tip our hand - if we have an explosive offense that we only need to use in emergencies, teams can't defend it because they've never seen it to prepare for it. However, as long as we are within 10 points of victory, there's no real reason to expose it.
I would love to see us go out and use the full playbook against Denver from start to finish and put a beatdown on them. It's a very Pete Carroll thing to do as well, impose your will on the rest of the league and show them they don't stand a chance. At the same time, it's difficult to deviate from something that's been successful 15 times out of 18

 

[themunn]

Plus, if we held on to the ball for 40 minutes a game we'd never get to see the defense. We have to spot them a few drives so that they can make plays too

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Oh, I get it. Prisco is an idiot, yet somehow agreeing with you dignifies his response.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

He's in the Superbowl, call him what you want. I will be calling him a Champion in 9 days.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Scott Kacsmar ‏@FO_ScottKacsmar 2m
Seahawks' offense ranks 30th in 3rd-down conversion rate since Week 14.


^ "Everybody's fault but Bevell's."

 

[Sarlacc83]

I'm glad we can still beat this drum after the excellent offensive showing in the second half of the 49ers game. Seriously, though, Prisco agreeing with you almost certainly guarantees that you are wrong.

 

[RolandDeschain]

I'm glad we can still beat this drum after the excellent offensive showing in the second half of the 49ers game. Seriously, though, Prisco agreeing with you almost certainly guarantees that you are wrong.

Oh, so when he spent over an hour vehemently defending Richard Sherman last year on Twitter, it turns out we're wrong and Sherman's a thug after all, huh?

The biases around here for and against specific NFL media pundits amaze me.

 

[Sarlacc83]

I'm glad we can still beat this drum after the excellent offensive showing in the second half of the 49ers game. Seriously, though, Prisco agreeing with you almost certainly guarantees that you are wrong.

Oh, so when he spent over an hour vehemently defending Richard Sherman last year on Twitter, it turns out we're wrong and Sherman's a thug after all, huh?

The biases around here for and against specific NFL media pundits amaze me.

Stopped clocks and twice a days. He probably wrote that to rile up the masses, and it turned out to be true.

 

[Giblien]

It's tough, I mean we are well aware of what Wilson can do when the reins are let off, but we're winning games and so it's hard to argue with the approach.

I imagine part of the conservative offense is so as not to tip our hand - if we have an explosive offense that we only need to use in emergencies, teams can't defend it because they've never seen it to prepare for it. However, as long as we are within 10 points of victory, there's no real reason to expose it.
I would love to see us go out and use the full playbook against Denver from start to finish and put a beatdown on them. It's a very Pete Carroll thing to do as well, impose your will on the rest of the league and show them they don't stand a chance. At the same time, it's difficult to deviate from something that's been successful 15 times out of 18

Never thought of that. Excellent point.

 

[Scottemojo]

There has never been a great QB who was not a game manager.

Using the term as an insult shows a lack of FBI.

 

[volsunghawk]

Scott Kacsmar ‏@FO_ScottKacsmar 2m
Seahawks' offense ranks 30th in 3rd-down conversion rate since Week 14.

That definitely needs to improve. Luckily, we'll be facing a defense that isn't as good as all the defenses we've faced since Week 14.

I'm not saying that it's going to be like facing the Jags or anything, but this will be the weakest defense we've gone up against since before our bye week.

 

[themunn]

Scott Kacsmar ‏@FO_ScottKacsmar 2m
Seahawks' offense ranks 30th in 3rd-down conversion rate since Week 14.


^ "Everybody's fault but Bevell's."

Checked that guys twitter out.
These were interesting stats

When Russell Wilson gets pressured on 3rd down, he's converted 12-of-64 plays (18.8%).

Manning converts under pressure on 3rd down 7-of-33 plays (21.2%).

Very similar conversion rates, but Wilson gets pressured twice as much on only around 2/3s as many dropbacks.
I looked at our total 3rd down conversion rate for the season, and on plays where Wilson ISN'T pressured (unfortunately I couldn't separate rushing plays), we converted 74/168 3rd downs (44.0%).

For all Wilson's escapability under pressure, it doesn't seem to have brought tangible results

 

[RolandDeschain]

Checked that guys twitter out.

He's the head guy at Football Outsiders, just FYI. He knows his stuff in a big way.