PFF 2025 QB Rankings (Projected) - such garbage

[hgwellz12]

I generally don't care about this type of "news" and/or some random jackoff's ratings, but, this is CLEAR CUT "click bait" bewlsheet and it leaves me wondering how it must feel to publish something like that? To be that confidently wrong, objectively, has to feel weird. Like,I know full well that the whole purpose of tweets like this is to drive engagement, but you can't convince me that there's not a way to achieve that with more integrity and credibility. I imagine the writer looking like this after they hit send.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Just look at TD passes vs. Picks. Darnold had a much better season overall. No matter how much people bring up what he was working with. Well, Geno wasn't exactly working with crap.
I expect the same thing from Geno that we almost always see. Play well and beat crap teams, choke against very good teams.

 

[DTiempo81]

PFF has fallen off the rails lately.

It was never on the rails. It's been bullshit from the very beginning.

 

[Smellyman]

Every year Geno is trash nationally rated in the 17-20+ range. He has his worst year as a Hawk and is now #10 going to another team.

Hmmmm

 

[glenwo2]

I can understand Geno being where he is, at least can make an argument for it. Darnold is too low. I like Darnold more than Geno but I would have him lower than Geno but not by much.

PFF is a complete joke though.

Really?

You can actually explain why he's considered TOP TEN?

Please do.

I'm curious 'cause that is waaay too high a ranking.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Top 10 is laughable.

 

[Ozzy]

It was never on the rails. It's been bullshit from the very beginning.

I actually agree with that.

 

[Sperrydogg]

I can understand Geno being where he is, at least can make an argument for it. Darnold is too low. I like Darnold more than Geno but I would have him lower than Geno but not by much.

PFF is a complete joke though.

It’s crazy how much the rankings are based on their history. Geno has rewritten his history now it’s darnold’s turn

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Geno had stats, that's about it.

 

[keasley45]

Maybe, just maybe they are ranking Darnold lower because he only ever did what he did last year, once in his career and one can easily make the case he did so as a result of the OC and system he landed in.

Likewise, you could make the case that Smith performed at a borderline top 10 level for 2 years before finishing at an average place in his final year while in one of the worse led offenses in the league.

Smith in the Vikings last year woukd have been better than he was in Seattle and likely better than Darnold was in that system because metrics like on target throws, adjusted completion percentage and accuracy under pressure go a but deeper at refkecting the true ability of a qb than TDs do.
On the flip, Darnold would likely have looked a lot like he did before he got to Minny last year. Why? Because when he had anything approaching poor OC leadership helping him, he was hot garbage.
Geno with poor OC leadership? Pushing top 10 and top 15 ish over 3 years.
And now Geno has Chip Kelly and weapons. Its not a stretch.
But Darnold coukd build on what he did last year and push top 10 and Geno could regress and be no better than he was here despite undeniably having a better OC.

We
Shall
See.

Gonna be fun to watch.

And then there's Russ. So many storylines to track...

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Geno being top 10 is absolutely a stretch. Good luck, Pete, you're gonna' need it.

 

[seabowl]

As soon as I saw JJ McCarthy on there ahead of Darnold I stopped looking. An average college qb who hasn’t played a single down in the NFL coming of an ACL tear will be ahead of a guy that threw 35 yds 12 ints and 4319 yards last year? Really?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Yep, most of these lists are for clicks. Fun to talk football etc. but I just can't take these lists seriously.

 

[Lagartixa]

I know this, Kyler Murray isn't very good and Geno Smith seems too high to me. Darnold has been mostly bad except for last year. I'm hoping he can keep up his improved play but it's far from guaranteed.

Tell us you didn't watch the Vikings' last two games without explicitly saying you didn't watch the Vikings' last two games.

Darnold very clearly reverted to his well-established level of suckitude for those two games.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

So, everything he did leading up to those 2 games doesn't matter? Got it.

If it was Geno who did the same thing, some people would be bending over to make excuses for him. Like they did every time he had a bad game, and there was plenty of them. Most of the time, his red zone picks were somehow not his fault.

My God, I'm so glad he's gone.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

So, everything he did leading up to those 2 games doesn't matter? Got it.

If it was Geno who did the same thing, some people would be bending over to make excuses for him. Like they did every time he had a bad game, and there was plenty of them. Most of the time, his red zone picks were somehow not his fault.

My God, I'm so glad he's gone.

He will never be "gone." Some people can't stop bringing him up a la Carroll, RW3, etc.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

You make a good point.

 

[Trackhawk]

It feels like people haven’t gone and read the original PFF article, and the X poster is misreporting what was published. It’s available for free.

It’s not a traditional 1 through 32 ranking. They placed each quarterback into a specific category, ranked the quarterbacks within those categories, then ranked the categories based on potential for the entire group.

Smith was ranked near the bottom of the “Solid starters who have flashed high-end play” category. Darnold was at the top of the “Veterans capable of solid play, but could be quickly replaced” category.

If they had been placed in the same category, they unquestionably would’ve been ranked much closer.

In their category tiers, they put “Young players with a wide range of potential outcomes” between those two categories. So, you get weird rankings like Ward, Williams, and Penix being ranked above Darnold. I really can’t argue against ranking young guys, as a group, above easily replaceable vets. The potential is there with the young guys, once again as a category.

I would argue that it’s not entirely unreasonable to place these two players in these two different categories based on their respective bodies of work.

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[Sperrydogg]

Geno had stats, that's about it.

Yeah but he went from a zero to like a 6 or 7

 

[SoulfishHawk]

He's not 6 or 7 in the NFL. Not even close.