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And probably the exact reason so many of us have been tolerating his unavailability.
I think most of us recognize the potential.
Pete uncertain whether Jamal will be ready week 1
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And probably the exact reason so many of us have been tolerating his unavailability.
I think most of us recognize the potential.
Seahawk_Dan
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But like other various high profile Seahawk trades, the team does not get the player they traded for.
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Tick, tick, tick, tick
Just waiting on the clock to run down.
Just waiting on the clock to run down.
MORGULON
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I think this is Adams last year as a Seahawk. I wouldn't be surprised to see Diggs for the last time as a Seahawk .
Simply look at all the acquisitions, if they are able to turn into good players Diggs and his gigantic contract are history.
Simply look at all the acquisitions, if they are able to turn into good players Diggs and his gigantic contract are history.
RiverDog
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A lot of it has to do with ego. It would be easy for you or me to cut him as we're not the ones that sold the farm to get him. But for Pete and John, to cut Adams would be to admit failure. And I'm not saying that to take a cheap shot at them, just that they're human beings, too, and none of us like having to fess up to big mistakes like that.
I don't see this as a sunk-cost fallacy. There is more to the equation than what's been invested. For example, his actual value relative to the next best alternative, the cost of moving on from him, and the potential benefits of keeping him. Considering the Seahawks have shown a willingness to move on from players in similar situations, it's safe to assume they view Adams as someone worth holding on to. And it seems cynical to believe they've come to that conclusion because of sunk costs.
jman316
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I couldn’t believe that throw that hit him in the hands actually was picked off! Well, that and none of his highlights ended with him sustaining a season ending injury!
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Ryan Neal is a weird case. I thought he played well for the Seahawks. But then the Seahawks rescinded his RFA tender and let him go, and the best contract he could get was a one-year vet-minimum deal from the Buccaneers, who are unlikely to be even a little good this season. They could possibly make the playoffs, just because their division is so awful, but they actually manage to have one of the worst rosters in what's probably the weakest division in the NFL this season.
We were told that the Seahawks let Neal go because he wanted that, but I have no idea why none of the other 31 teams was willing to give him more than a vet-minimum contract.
Now on to the thing about the post-June-1 cut. They could still do that if and when physicians clear Adams, if that happens before the season starts, so that's the first reason I don't think "Fricken' ridiculous" applies.
And as for the sunk-cost fallacy, well, that wasn't the reasoning for keeping him on the roster. Before June 1 of this year, cutting Adams would have actually reduced the amount of cap space available to the Seahawks. That is, they would have had less space available without him on the roster than with him. Additionally, his injury status makes cutting him complicated. So I disagree that him being on the roster now is the sunk-cost fallacy at work. On the other hand, giving him the contract extension in the first place looks like it might have involved incorrect analysis of sunk costs. However, we don't know. I don't think they'd commit the money they committed just to avoid losing him if they didn't think they could still get significant on-the-field value (and from that, significant revenue) out of him.
At this point, my best guess, without knowing much about his injury or how Adams's recovery is going, is that they haven't cut him because they simply can't cut him because the CBA doesn't allow it. If they want to get rid of him, they have to hope he's ready to play before the season starts so they can cut him and get a little cap space this year. But if he won't be back in time for the start of the season and the Seahawks already know that, then they're on the hook for his whole 2023 salary, so they're also on the hook for his full $18.11M cap number ($11M of salary plus $7.11M of prorated signing bonus). At that point, they can offer him some kind of injury settlement to get out of the rest of his contract or they can wait for him to be ready to play and just cut him. Once the Seahawks are sure Adams is not going to be available before the season starts, and therefore they won't be able to cut Adams, they have every reason not to bring him back too soon, because if he once again plays part of one game before getting injured, then they get his whole cap hit for less than a game of on-the-field value again.
Hawkstorian
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Not true. If they cut him before the start of the regular season, they would owe him some amount of injury protection money but that would be far less than what his non-guaranteed salary is. The savings is significant. This is similar to Chris Carson last year. Cutting Carson before camp last year resulted in cap savings, and Carson also got to keep a portion of his salary due to his previous injury. The CBA has long and very specific sections ab out how this work, if you're looking for some light reading.
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I've never quite heard the quad described as such.
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Let it be-we are well prepared for it this year. Anything he can add will be nice especially come playoff time. Probably his last season to justify any future investment.
Will Jamal Adams be ready for start of season?
The Seahawks still can't say for certain whether safety Jamal Adams will be ready to play by the start of the season.profootballtalk.nbcsports.com
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Adams is talking the talk AND attending OTAs, but that doesn't change the odds. i hope, but don't believe.
MizzouHawkGal
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Just cut him already and admit you made the worst trade in Seahawk history and move on.
You still haven't. We are talking about the tendon.
BASF
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A borderline hall of fame running back for a DB that never played a down for us is the worst trade in Seahawks history.
SoulfishHawk
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EVERY front office makes mistakes. They've also made a lot of great draft picks and moves. Fade and company coming in to blast my opinion in 3....2....1.......
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^this
….and every fan base plays the we shoulda woulda coulda game with 100% hindsight.
….and every fan base plays the we shoulda woulda coulda game with 100% hindsight.
