Per ESPN/Schefter, Hawks trade for OT Duane Brown

[mikeak]

Being wrong and corrected happens all the time but to keep stating false information and just making it up is in nobody's interest

 

[mikeak]

Get a new tax guy.

LOL

 

[bigskydoc]

Russell Wilson will avoid paying $29,210 to the state of Arizona, and $133,688 to the State of California as the result of this deal. He loses the deduction on his federal tax, so he will come out, roughly, $98,390 ahead by making this deal

 

[SoulfishHawk]

:snack:

 

[Anthony!]

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[Anthony!]

Get a new tax guy.

...

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I heard it might rain tomorrow. Thanks a lot Russ.

 

[Anthony!]

I heard it might rain tomorrow. Thanks a lot Russ.

LOL

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Death, Taxes and criticism for the best QB in team history, no matter WHAT the subject may be :lol:

 

[Anthony!]

Death, Taxes and criticism for the best QB in team history, no matter WHAT the subject may be :lol:

I am pretty sure most would be okay with losing 12 games a year as long as they had another QB.

 

[KitsapGuy]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/bcondotta/status/925453392016678912[/tweet]

 

[Uncle Si]

My lord that was hard on the eyes.

Next pot shot at a poster will earn a ban.

 

[chris98251]

Hon, you need to get back to work, I had to defer my salary so I don't get killed the rest of the season.

 

[jammerhawk]

Thanks Uncle Si!

There's too much of that going on around here these days despite the very csapable work of our mods.

Argue the point fellas, not the person.

Love this trade and am righfully excited by it. Didn't think it would happen but somehow JS and RW made it happen.

Enjoy this season b/c the team seems to be 'all in' to win a championship.

 

[Pandion Haliaetus]

My thoughts on the value of what the Seahawks gave up:

If you win, you didn't lose.

1-2 weeks ago, I feel much better adding Brown after the Seahawks added Freeney.


10 year vet + top 10 LT consistently throughout his career + vocal leader = great mentor.

Freeney is also a great mentor.


But to me it all comes around ten fold.

Freeney is going to help develop the pass-rush guys by sharing his skill set and his experience. Our young DEs are going to be better in the long-run.

Brown is not only going to help solidify the line, think of how much the young Olinemen can learn and develop behind his lead. It's a legit positive domino effect of influence.

A month from now, the Oline and the pass-rush is going to be smarter, wiser, and more advanced if the younger guys on both sides put in the time to learn and pick brains and emulate.

However, the biggest kicker imo guys are going to improve through practice too. Iron sharpens iron.

Freeney's influence isn't going to effect just the pass-rush group but he's going to help the Olinemen that spar against him improve.

Likewise with Brown against the DEs he'll face.

All of a sudden because of two moves, depth and performance looks to gradually improve, develop, and galvanize in two key areas.

And if it does look out... no one in the league wants Seattle to have a functional O-Line. No one wants to face that Defense, if the Seahawks can run the ball consistently and effectively with success.

 

[netskier]

So pissed. You bring in a 23 year LT and take care of the issue for a decade. DB gives us 2-3 years. What a long term waste.

Bahahahahahahahahahaha.

Do you have a franchise LT fabricating machine that I don't know about?

One more thing: Bahahahahahaha. Ha!

Pocic playing right next to Brown is going to benefit from this trade as well. Having to play next to Rees who is still getting owned all to regularly was not the best position to put him in. :2thumbs:

True, good point. I think this will make everyone better. 8)

I concur, and I think that part of everyone includes the defense too.

Imagine Dwight Freeney giving a clinic to the defensive linemen, particularly practice squad, but open to all, on how to execute his famous spin move.

And, at the same time, on the "cannon fodder" side of the line, the offensive line students, trying to defend Dwight Freeney. Followed by Duane Brown teaching how he defends against Freeney doing his spin move. Cable can teach, but he can not execute as Brown does. Execution is everything, as they say, so you need to practice executing against the very best.

Two clinics at once, taught by two of the very best. Both lines' techniques will sky rocket.

I can't wait to see the results, and I would pay to attend these clinics, if I could.

 

[Anthony!]

My thoughts on the value of what the Seahawks gave up:

If you win, you didn't lose.

1-2 weeks ago, I feel much better adding Brown after the Seahawks added Freeney.


10 year vet + top 10 LT consistently throughout his career + vocal leader = great mentor.

Freeney is also a great mentor.


But to me it all comes around ten fold.

Freeney is going to help develop the pass-rush guys by sharing his skill set and his experience. Our young DEs are going to be better in the long-run.

Brown is not only going to help solidify the line, think of how much the young Olinemen can learn and develop behind his lead. It's a legit positive domino effect of influence.

A month from now, the Oline and the pass-rush is going to be smarter, wiser, and more advanced if the younger guys on both sides put in the time to learn and pick brains and emulate.

However, the biggest kicker imo guys are going to improve through practice too. Iron sharpens iron.

Freeney's influence isn't going to effect just the pass-rush group but he's going to help the Olinemen that spar against him improve.

Likewise with Brown against the DEs he'll face.

All of a sudden because of two moves, depth and performance looks to gradually improve, develop, and galvanize in two key areas.

And if it does look out... no one in the league wants Seattle to have a functional O-Line. No one wants to face that Defense, if the Seahawks can run the ball consistently and effectively with success.

Great post, one of the best ever. Spot on

 

[scrummymustard]

I was referring to the IRS and their specific bonus guidelines, so it is Federal

Bro, I am in no way here to say Russell Wilson is somehow suffering. You can put a bunch of financial advisors/accountants in a room and they'll have disagreements. The only thing I disagree with you on is that "everyone" would do this. I disagree, the history of the league has shown the minority of top players do this. There are pros and cons

Russell has an elite team around him. Whatever money he loses this year he'll make back through investments, the growth of his TraceMe app, etc. Overall, I just find this whole back and forth silly. We should be happy about this trade and that's the bottom line. And we should be able to discuss basic contract stuff instead of simply trying to win an argument. I don't pretend to be a financial expert, or a contract expert. But from even the basic information I've read there are pros and cons to what he did. Which is why not everyone does it. That's it


Side Note: And quite frankly, his contract was already friendly in the first place. Even when he got his contract, it wasn't Derek Carr/Matthew Stafford type ground breaking. So he has already shown he's willing to think of the team first. I hope we can all at least agree with that

For me, the whole thing is laughable and is yet another reason I stopped posting here for a while. I remember a few years ago Brady did this, back when Wilson was doing his first contract after being a rookie. Everyone said look Brady does whats best for the team etc, etc. Yet the reality was he was still getting his, only paying taxes differently. Now that it is Wilson we have a small group making lite of it like it is no big deal. I bet if it was Sherman they would be like see he is such a team guy etc. The reality is it is a big deal, he did not have to do it, and yes there is going to be some extra tax issues despite what some here are trying to say, the one rule stated here even says "can take a bigger tax bite out of your bonus payments." I just got off the phone with my Tax guy who is also a Hawks fan, and he said there are other taxes and penalties that are involved, In the end this will cost Wilson about 18% more in taxes in the end. People seem to think it is as simple as a tax bracket but it's not, different types of income have different rules, and different guidelines.

All that said, in the end, it really does not matter the reality is he did it, and it is something that a lot of people don't do, so instead of making lite of it or downplaying it, we should be embracing that he did this. As I said it if were almost anyone's on this team you guys would be all over it, when it was Brady you were all over it, Now that its Wilson you make lite of it, it's pathetic and shows whats wrong with this forum. You have a small group of people and their many aliases who attack, minimize and strike down anything positive about Wilson. How much better it would it be if we could all celebrate good things by any player on this team without having a small group ruin it. The question now is, did I actually get through to anyone or waste my time. I think I know I just hope I am wrong

I'm sorry Anthony, but you just don't really understand the tax code. This is NOT a different type of income. It is STILL w-2 income (as all NFL athletes are w-2 from their respective teams). The tax withholding amount or percentage when the check is written may be different (each employer does tax withholding differently) but the federal tax owed does NOT change come tax time. When he gets his w-2 from the seahawks next spring, it will not separate this payment from any others he received this year. It will say $12,600,000.

I wasn't putting this as a slight to Russell, and I could care less what people were saying about Brady. This is a good move for ANY player in terms of their NFL contracts because it gives the player more leverage down the line and gives them money right now. It is harder for teams to cut players with a higher dead cap hit. I've never heard of a player turning down the option of restructuring, ever. I mean a restructuring like this where you turn salary into bonus, not a pay cut. Those are different.

 

[Seymour]

Death, Taxes and criticism for the best QB in team history, no matter WHAT the subject may be :lol:

I think you will find death covered on page 2 of this thread. Taxes would be the majority of page 6. :roll:

 

[Chapow]

As much as I tried (and really, I didn't try), I just can't bring myself to give one single crap about a draft pick that is a year and a half away. This front office is probably going to make hundreds of moves between now and the 2019 draft. For all we know, we could have multiple 2019 2nd round picks by the time that draft rolls around. Being concerned about that now, as a fan, in the midst of the 2017 regular season, just does not compute for me. We're sitting at 5-2 and almost certainly just got better with the addition of a top 10 LT. This team absolutely can win a championship this season.