Penny once again a none factor

[xray]

It appears that Penny ; again has been demoted to the 3rd RB option . 2 snaps on Sunday :?:

 

[Mad Dog]

It appears that Penny ; again has been demoted to the 3rd RB option . 2 snaps on Sunday :?:

Hard to know whether that was the cold wet weather making them nervous about his hamstring or whether its a performance based demotion. I don't think Fluker got much playing time either with his hamstring. I suspect they were both emergency fill ins.

 

[2_0_6]

As the weeks have gone on not only this season but last, the initial pick of him seems to be more and more of a complete waste.

 

[Seahawk_Dan]

It appears that Penny ; again has been demoted to the 3rd RB option . 2 snaps on Sunday :?:

It very well be because Penny just doesn't have the talent to be on an NFL roster, that or the team is using him in the wrong way. I mean look at Spencer Ware, he preformed much better in KC and Alex Collins (prior to his legal issues) was pretty solid in Baltimore. Maybe Pete just isn't great at evaluating young running back talent out of college or fitting said players into his system.

I also think, since Prosise is actually healthy for once in his career I think Pete wants to milk that as much as he can, but once again doesn't seem to be utilizing CJ's strengths.

 

[Jerhawk]

Wish we drafted Chubb or Michel. Any of those Georgia backs would've been better. What a mistake

 

[Rat]

Certainly isn't looking good, but if it helps any, that entire area of that draft where Penny was taken looks like complete garbage aside from Nick Chubb and Darius Leonard going in the early 2nd. We also missed out on Leighton Vander Esch by trading down in the first, but we were very unlikely to take him anyway. In retrospect, the smart decision would have been to not trade down, but move up 2+ spots for Derwin James, who went one pick before our original slot.

 

[northseahawk]

Once again proves that 1st round picks by our team turn out to be completely shit. The picks should be traded for proven players instead. We should have gone after Ramsey for 2 first rounders and our defense would have looked much different with one side of our field shutdown.

 

[iigakusei]

It appears that Penny ; again has been demoted to the 3rd RB option . 2 snaps on Sunday :?:

It very well be because Penny just doesn't have the talent to be on an NFL roster, that or the team is using him in the wrong way. I mean look at Spencer Ware, he preformed much better in KC and Alex Collins (prior to his legal issues) was pretty solid in Baltimore. Maybe Pete just isn't great at evaluating young running back talent out of college or fitting said players into his system.

I also think, since Prosise is actually healthy for once in his career I think Pete wants to milk that as much as he can, but once again doesn't seem to be utilizing CJ's strengths.

This is what I will never understand - Prosise has one carry for 17 yards and then never touches the ball again. Maybe give him a couple more runs?

 

[Thepeelsessions]

Once again proves that 1st round picks by our team turn out to be completely $h!t. The picks should be traded for proven players instead. We should have gone after Ramsey for 2 first rounders and our defense would have looked much different with one side of our field shutdown.

Wait, I'm confused. People piss and moan when the Hawks do trade first round picks for proven players (Branch, Harvin, Graham, etc.). But then they also piss and moan when the Hawks first round selections don't pan out. What gives?

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

Certainly isn't looking good, but if it helps any, that entire area of that draft where Penny was taken looks like complete garbage aside from Nick Chubb and Darius Leonard going in the early 2nd. We also missed out on Leighton Vander Esch by trading down in the first, but we were very unlikely to take him anyway. In retrospect, the smart decision would have been to not trade down, but move up 2+ spots for Derwin James, who went one pick before our original slot.

God if only we'd drafted James.........

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

It appears that Penny ; again has been demoted to the 3rd RB option . 2 snaps on Sunday :?:

It very well be because Penny just doesn't have the talent to be on an NFL roster, that or the team is using him in the wrong way. I mean look at Spencer Ware, he preformed much better in KC and Alex Collins (prior to his legal issues) was pretty solid in Baltimore. Maybe Pete just isn't great at evaluating young running back talent out of college or fitting said players into his system.

I also think, since Prosise is actually healthy for once in his career I think Pete wants to milk that as much as he can, but once again doesn't seem to be utilizing CJ's strengths.

This is what I will never understand - Prosise has one carry for 17 yards and then never touches the ball again. Maybe give him a couple more runs?

Concur.


I've been a supporter of patience with Penny but it's starting to look bad and all the Penny haters here might well be correct I'm afraid.

 

[Thepeelsessions]

It appears that Penny ; again has been demoted to the 3rd RB option . 2 snaps on Sunday :?:

It very well be because Penny just doesn't have the talent to be on an NFL roster, that or the team is using him in the wrong way. I mean look at Spencer Ware, he preformed much better in KC and Alex Collins (prior to his legal issues) was pretty solid in Baltimore. Maybe Pete just isn't great at evaluating young running back talent out of college or fitting said players into his system.

I also think, since Prosise is actually healthy for once in his career I think Pete wants to milk that as much as he can, but once again doesn't seem to be utilizing CJ's strengths.

This is what I will never understand - Prosise has one carry for 17 yards and then never touches the ball again. Maybe give him a couple more runs?

Concur.


I've been a supporter of patience with Penny but it's starting to look bad and all the Penny haters here might well be correct I'm afraid.

Same. I just don't think he'll ever get the opportunity here. Blast me to hell all your want, but I think Carson is one of the most overrated Seahawks players ever, but it's no lie that he's a good fit for this system. I still believe Penny is very talented, and I think a fresh start via trade is would be good for both sides. I'd like to see the kid succeed elsewhere.

When he pulled his hammy at the end of that walkthrough, I think that was very telling. I think Penny deserved to at least get a shot at being the featured back with Carson's fumbling issues, and then he gets hurt. Something still seems fishy about that. Am I crazy? Maybe. It's no secret that Pete has an infinite affinity for Carson, and I believe there was no way he was benching him. None. Did the Penny injury and subsequent inactive designation insure that? The whole situation was just stinky, and it still reeks to me.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I think at this point we all know it wasn't a good draft pick, for various reasons. If there was a way to trade him, I wouldn't be opposed to it. He just isn't a good fit here clearly OR they don't trust him to get the ball more. And it certainly doesn't help that he's had his share of nagging injuries. I was really hoping he would pan out, but I just don't see it happen. So, it was a crap draft pick. The bashers are probably loving that they got it right. But hey, we have years of dwelling on it to look forward to :?

On another note, Carson overrated??? He's proven to be one of the better backs in the league.

 

[Rat]

Once again proves that 1st round picks by our team turn out to be completely $h!t. The picks should be traded for proven players instead. We should have gone after Ramsey for 2 first rounders and our defense would have looked much different with one side of our field shutdown.

Wait, I'm confused. People piss and moan when the Hawks do trade first round picks for proven players (Branch, Harvin, Graham, etc.). But then they also piss and moan when the Hawks first round selections don't pan out. What gives?

Well, our recent history of both is worthy of "pissing and moaning".

We did good with the 14th pick that one year. We should either trade up to there or just forfeit the first rounders altogether.

 

[HawkGA]

Once again proves that 1st round picks by our team turn out to be completely $h!t. The picks should be traded for proven players instead. We should have gone after Ramsey for 2 first rounders and our defense would have looked much different with one side of our field shutdown.

Wait, I'm confused. People piss and moan when the Hawks do trade first round picks for proven players (Branch, Harvin, Graham, etc.). But then they also piss and moan when the Hawks first round selections don't pan out. What gives?

I'm definitely not down for trading for proven players. Not that it shouldn't be done ever, but certainly isn't a default better strategy. I think the team identifies players they want to draft, try to trade down to where they think those players should be drafted, but if they aren't able to trade down far enough, they draft them anyway, with no concept of who they could have picked up in that earlier position.

 

[Thepeelsessions]

On another note, Carson overrated??? He's proven to be one of the better backs in the league.

I've said it before, but he's like a rocked up BenJarvus Green-Ellis. AKA, a top end grinder. He's definitely no Zeke, Chubb, Cook, etc.Those guys can bang inside and also take it to the house on any given carry. That's the kind of RB I want here in Seattle. I think all things considered, Chubb is the ultimate back. He's special. And to think the Hawks could've had him. That's the thing, how the hell will we ever know if Penny us capable of being that kind of RB if he never gets carries? It's just irritating.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

The draft is a crap shoot. And they already had Carson, so it was a little of a head scratcher at the time. But I was excited to see what Penny could do. He clearly won't get a chance here. Chubb is a beast no doubt.

 

[Rat]

The trade downs don't seem all that great either. We've done well with the mid/late rounders that get thrown in with the trades, but the actually trade down pick has been tough.

2018: traded down from 18 to 27, took Rashaad Penny
Passed over in trade down: Jaire Alexander, Leighton Vander Esch, Calvin Ridley
Taken shortly after: Sony Michel, Will Hernandez, Nick Chubb, Darius Leonard

2017: traded down from 26 to 35, took Malik McDowell
Passed over in trade down: TJ Watt, Ryan Ramczyk, Cam Robinson
Taken shortly after: Budda Baker, Dalvin Cook

2016: traded down from 26 to 31, took Germain Ifedi
Passed over in trade down: Kenny Clark
Taken shortly after: Jaylon Smith, Hunter Henry, Myles Jack, Xavien Howard, Derrick Henry, Michael Thomas

Hopefully history doesn't repeat itself with Collier. It's too early to make any declarations on him, although our pass rush has been terrible the past few weeks, and it would have nice if he had been ready to make an impact sooner.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Meh, time to concentrate on Sunday. Rehashing this over and over again won't fix it.

 

[CamanoIslandJQ]

NOTE: This post has been deleted 5/22/20, ------- this comes after multiple unprovoked attacks on me by the asshole acer1240. I will never post here again. This site has officially gone to hell & I'll never return.