Patriots Aren’t Gonna Lay Down

[chris98251]

I just want them to piss us off, we are a different team pissed off. We are very good, pissed off though we are unstoppable.

 

[seabowl]

The Vegas line makes me nervous. It's going to be a closer game than we would like it to be.

People were saying the same thing for XLVIII

 

[SeahawkSteve80]

The only way the Patriots have a remote chance to win this game is if they outscore us.

 

[Hawknight]

I wonder if Peyton Manning is watching or still getting therapy from our last Super Bowl meeting?

 

[loafoftatupu]

Pats D had impact to push Stroud to poor play and Darnold isn't immune. I recently read somewhere that Darnold had one of the highest splits from good/bad play when pressured/not-pressured. The OL will need to play well and again, they've got a few issues at times. There's a path to this game being close.

If the momentum starts toward Seattle, it'll be a historic blow out. If momentum starts with the Pats, it will probably take 1/2-time adjustments and 60 minutes of determination but still a Seahawks win.

...my 2 cents.

Sounds entirely legit, I could see that.

 

[jbwilm]

If it was possible to win by half a point, I'd take it. Just win, Seattle.

 

[HomerJHawk]

 

[loafoftatupu]

Todd is correct. The Patriots won't lay down, it is just not possible while they are bent over.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I think I speak for many when I say this: F THE PATS

 

[CostaRicaHawk]

According to this puppy bowl that is exactly what they are going to do.

MSN

 

[JustTheTip]

That is fine, we will give it to them standing up.

 

[warden]

I just hope that we don’t have to listen to their fans whine for weeks, months on end, after we beat, them like we have to endure from the Rams, Whinner fans

 

[jammerhawk]

I am quietly confident but the game will be closer than some here think as the Pats have a pretty good team.

I agree with the momentum post above.

 

[Runscott]

If we can't pressure Maye and Woolen ends up man-on-man on Steffon Diggs. But I really think their only chance is if Darnold gets knocked out of the game early - they've proven they can beat back-up quarterbacks by a field goal.

 

[glenwo2]

I recently read somewhere that Darnold had one of the highest splits from good/bad play when pressured/not-pressured.

I would like to see the exact numbers for this.

and I mean just for the 2025 season, not his career.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I just hope that we don’t have to listen to their fans whine for weeks, months on end, after we beat, them like we have to endure from the Rams, Whinner fans

Screw that, it'll be FUN listening to them whine after their Pats LOSE

 

[Hollandhawk]

I would like to see the exact numbers for this.

and I mean just for the 2025 season, not his career.

Not exact numbers, but:

• Elite Blitz Recognition: Despite the high turnover numbers under general pressure, Darnold was remarkably effective specifically against the blitz, ranking first in the NFL in accuracy with a 90.6 grade, and posting a 10.7% big-time throw rate.

And it feels like it has improved recently.

 

[chrispy]

I would like to see the exact numbers for this.

and I mean just for the 2025 season, not his career.

Super Bowl LX Cheat Sheet: The 22 Things to Know About Patriots vs. Seahawks

How might the Super Bowl play out? This analytical deep dive has everything you need to know about Drake Maye, Sam Darnold, Mike Macdonald’s defense, and more.

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Point #18

 

[LeveeBreak]

This is what I hate about the 2 weeks. Takes forever to get here.

At least we’re on the downhill side of the hump.

 

[glenwo2]

Okay so I asked grok to do some calculations regarding how effective Sam is while under pressure this season and here is what it gave me :

Sam Darnold's 2025 regular season stats when pressured (primarily from NFL Next Gen Stats, PFF, and related reports) show a mixed performance: he struggled with efficiency and turnovers under duress compared to clean pockets, but he improved in avoiding sacks and showed flashes in key moments (especially in the postseason).


Key pressured stats for the regular season (17 games, Seahawks):

• Pressure rate: Pressured on ~29.4% of dropbacks (6th-lowest in the NFL per Next Gen Stats), or ~21.0% per Pro-Football-Reference (109 pressures on ~526 dropbacks).
• Passer rating under pressure: Around 68.5 (PFF, down from 79.2 in 2024) or in the 67.3 range in some mid-season reports (with a stark contrast to ~116 without pressure).
• Turnover issues: Highest league-wide turnover rate on pressured dropbacks at 7.8% (or 7.2% giveaway rate per some NGS contexts). Of his 20 total giveaways (14 INTs + sacks/fumbles), 11 came under pressure (including 6 INTs).
• Pressure-to-sack rate: Improved to 15%–15.4% (13th–4th league-wide per sources), better than his 21.7% in 2024.
• Other notes: Struggled notably vs. the Rams (26.7 passer rating under pressure across two games, 5.4 YPA, 0 TDs, 3 INTs). Overall efficiency dipped (e.g., lower completion %, yards per attempt) when rushed, but he ranked highly on throws outside the pocket (e.g., 115.5 passer rating league-high in some reports).

Exact full-season pressured splits (e.g., completions/attempts, total yards, TDs/INTs under pressure) aren't aggregated in one public source from the searches, but the above captures the consensus from PFF, Next Gen Stats, and reports. His overall success (4,048 yards, 25 TDs, 99.1 rating) came partly from facing pressure less often than average and excelling clean.


In the postseason (including NFC Championship vs. Rams), he showed improvement: e.g., 5/11 for 102 yards and all 3 TDs under pressure in the title game (per NGS), and he led in postseason pressured TDs (4 total in the era tracked).