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New York doing a good job throwing this game away.
 

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Defense sucks,o-line sucks and 0 run game. Ironically those were the same 3 reasons they won two SB's over the Pats even tho Eli got all the credit. Love seeing them get killed and Eli exposed for who he really is.
 

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penihawk":bqk49urx said:
Defense sucks,o-line sucks and 0 run game. Ironically those were the same 3 reasons they won two SB's over the Pats even tho Eli got all the credit. Love seeing them get killed and Eli exposed for who he really is.

Very true. I've never understood all the Eli love, he's a mediocre QB at best.
 

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OkieHawk":1txlwtmm said:
penihawk":1txlwtmm said:
Defense sucks,o-line sucks and 0 run game. Ironically those were the same 3 reasons they won two SB's over the Pats even tho Eli got all the credit. Love seeing them get killed and Eli exposed for who he really is.

Very true. I've never understood all the Eli love, he's a mediocre QB at best.

Ha. He is actually pretty clutch at best. Hence the two rings, or did you not see those SB runs?
 

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HawksFTW":3ksaf4o4 said:
OkieHawk":3ksaf4o4 said:
penihawk":3ksaf4o4 said:
Defense sucks,o-line sucks and 0 run game. Ironically those were the same 3 reasons they won two SB's over the Pats even tho Eli got all the credit. Love seeing them get killed and Eli exposed for who he really is.

Very true. I've never understood all the Eli love, he's a mediocre QB at best.

Ha. He is actually pretty clutch at best. Hence the two rings, or did you not see those SB runs?

They got lucky, it wasn't because of Eli. I suppose you will say that Flacco is elite now as well?
 

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OkieHawk":2yv5n745 said:
HawksFTW":2yv5n745 said:
OkieHawk":2yv5n745 said:
penihawk":2yv5n745 said:
Defense sucks,o-line sucks and 0 run game. Ironically those were the same 3 reasons they won two SB's over the Pats even tho Eli got all the credit. Love seeing them get killed and Eli exposed for who he really is.

Very true. I've never understood all the Eli love, he's a mediocre QB at best.

Ha. He is actually pretty clutch at best. Hence the two rings, or did you not see those SB runs?

They got lucky, it wasn't because of Eli. I suppose you will say that Flacco is elite now as well?

You need to watch those Super Bowl runs again because your memory is failing you.
 

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peachesenregalia":2hceyl82 said:
Eli is legit, seriously. I used to think he was no good, but those 2 SB runs were pretty much all him. The guy is clutch. Stop hating.

Can't, it's Eli Manning, he has to be hated. I'll agree to disagree with you on him being clutch, especially as he hasn't shown that at all recently, including last year.
 

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OkieHawk":1mytdg1w said:
peachesenregalia":1mytdg1w said:
Eli is legit, seriously. I used to think he was no good, but those 2 SB runs were pretty much all him. The guy is clutch. Stop hating.

Can't, it's Eli Manning, he has to be hated. I'll agree to disagree with you on him being clutch, especially as he hasn't shown that at all recently, including last year.

No offense, but your opinion is severely discredited at this point.
 

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HawksFTW":re3qk5zf said:
OkieHawk":re3qk5zf said:
peachesenregalia":re3qk5zf said:
Eli is legit, seriously. I used to think he was no good, but those 2 SB runs were pretty much all him. The guy is clutch. Stop hating.

Can't, it's Eli Manning, he has to be hated. I'll agree to disagree with you on him being clutch, especially as he hasn't shown that at all recently, including last year.

No offense, but your opinion is severely discredited at this point.

None taken, I will freely admit it is clouded with subjective hate towards Eli and leave it at that.
 

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OkieHawk":biurk0x0 said:
None taken, I will freely admit it is clouded with subjective hate towards Eli and leave it at that.

Alrighty then! :thirishdrinkers:
 

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Eli is the same player he was when they had success. He is only as good as the 3 elements I pointed out above. I have Eli leading the league in picks and hasn't been "clutch" in picking up the short comings of the rest of the squad. When he has to shoulder the load he is avg at best.
 

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Luck = guy catching a poorly thrown pass on top of his helmet. Eli is not Payton. Eli is the chucker and hope the D back sucks kind of QB. I watched it, both times. Without top talent on the O line and D line you get, well todays Eli. His brother is the gold standard for QB.

Their are much better QB's in the NFL. Rodgers, Brees, PAYTON Manning, hell even Rivers is better. Eli is not and never has been elite.
 

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