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RedAlice":2shco0n9 said:
You've lost your touch.

Maybe you too are zoning.
Psh. Wasn't trying to get a zinger in. Just surprised to see you defending a large swath of 49ers Webzone posters; not even the resident 49ers posters here do that.

loafoftatupu":2shco0n9 said:
There is no debating on the DenialZone. Pointless. Finding a rational post on that site is most difficult. I know they exist, but for the years that I have been reading their garbage I have found nothing worth debating with them. As a community the place is on crack.
Yeah. This.
 

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RolandDeschain":r7jgoyna said:
RedAlice":r7jgoyna said:
You've lost your touch.

Maybe you too are zoning.
Psh. Wasn't trying to get a zinger in. Just surprised to see you defending a large swath of 49ers Webzone posters; not even the resident 49ers posters here do that.

As I said....

It's ok, I 've seen you miss the same point with other posters.
 

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RolandDeschain":acubas4t said:
RedAlice":acubas4t said:
As I said....

It's ok, I 've seen you miss the same point with other posters.
Hmmm...Nope, my sarcasm & smartassery detectors are still not going off. :)

Once again, as I said....
 

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Marvin49":jixteqzr said:
ZagHawk":jixteqzr said:
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Giedi":jixteqzr said:
, it's a very rich debate topic in my opinion.

I think you need to look up the word debate and the compare / contrast to what gets said on that cesspit of filth and detritus you call webzone.


I'm pretty active on webzone, probably more so than here just because I must have some kind of joy in getting into debates. Where as here, I use mainly to learn news as well as promote anything cool I find regarding the Seahawks. For the most part I'm accepted there provided I act the way I hope a Niner fan would act on here. For those who decide to go over there that aren't trying to troll, my biggest recommendation is just take note of specific users who will try everything they can to get a rise out of you *hint* Y2R *hint* ignore or never respond to that user's specific posts and then you can actually get into some decent debate/conversation.

Pretty much the same here. :)

ahem...Sports Hernia...Hansgruber....

:D

I have them on ignore now so I'm never tempted to respond to them.
Marvin you mad bro, you mad because I called you out on your BS, you trolling style, and your quest to excuse everything niner related. Then I proved you lied when you claimed you had me on ignore and still responded a couple of months back. SMH...........

PS. I am a Boy Scout compared to your buddy YTR....

Carry on with your trolling....... It is what you are good at! 8)
 

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The DenialZone is home of The Orb of Confusion http://spongebob.wikia.com/wiki/Orb_of_Confusion

The second a browser connects to the DenialZone, signals are transmitted at a frequency not visible to the naked eye, yet contain extremely influential commands that tap into the weak minded DenialZoner.

When the word "Seahawk" is viewed, the Orb trigger then motivates the DenialZoner to post with a limited vocabulary. Words like "cheat" "PEDS" "bad calls" "Adderall" "shoulda" "woulda" "coulda" and "almost" are found to be attractive to the DenialZoner.

The Orb has been present for at least 10 years and has been persuasive enough to convince the DenialZoner in the offseason, that regardless of the logistics, the Niners will win the division and subsequently the elusive 6th Championship. No other team stands a chance against the awesomeness of the great Niner legacy. The Orb is very powerful and it's stranglehold over the innocent members is not likely to end anytime soon.

This is what the effect of the Orb looks like.
Ba4ana2a
 

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Marvin49":33wd3e2s said:
Pretty much the same here

Sure it is. Except here, it is sarcasm. The DenialZoner actually believes the ridiculous. Speculation and assumption are the tools of the experienced DenialZoner.
 

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loafoftatupu":1ziuobr5 said:
Marvin49":1ziuobr5 said:
Pretty much the same here

Sure it is. Except here, it is sarcasm. The DenialZoner actually believes the ridiculous. Speculation and assumption are the tools of the experienced DenialZoner.

From you? Yes.

Same can't be said of all posters here.

I also think there is a lot more sarcasm over there than you think.

Look...there are unrealistic homers in every fanbase. Are there more over on the Webzone? Of course...there are also a lot more posters PERIOD.

When I see some of the stuff some peeps say that's over the top I just ignore it...just as you do here when some posters post.

Bottom line, there isn't nearly as big a difference between the two sites as either one of you would like to believe.
 

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Marvin49":34kpn201 said:
Bottom line, there isn't nearly as big a difference between the two sites as either one of you would like to believe.

Wrong again NinaFreak. Find me the posts that display an appreciation for the Hawks as a unit, or the comments where the DenialZoner gives respect to the level of play displayed by Seahawk players.

With the increased traffic there, it should be quite easy to rip off a bunch. Then take an honest look at the posts from this site complimentary to the Niner roster or ability. I can likely find more just by listing my own posted information.
 

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loafoftatupu":3dc94pag said:
Marvin49":3dc94pag said:
Bottom line, there isn't nearly as big a difference between the two sites as either one of you would like to believe.

Wrong again NinaFreak. Find me the posts that display an appreciation for the Hawks as a unit, or the comments where the DenialZoner gives respect to the level of play displayed by Seahawk players.

With the increased traffic there, it should be quite easy to rip off a bunch. Then take an honest look at the posts from this site complimentary to the Niner roster or ability. I can likely find more just by listing my own posted information.

Jeez Loaf....you really don't see how similar the sites are do you? You really think Seattle fans are SOOOO much more reasonable than Niner fans?

I guess there is just no real way to change your mind on it. I am a poster on the Webzone. I post positive comments about the Seahawks. So do others, but they get drowned out by other posters. The exact same thing happens here.

There is a reason you call it DenialZone and over there they call you guys Seahawks.nut. The difference is only perspective.

I can't speak for her, but I think RedAlice would be more of an impartial judge.

Are there more homers over there? Yes. As I said before...there are also simply more posters. While you take every comment seriously and say "they are serious, we are sarcastic"...you can't see that its the same thing. There are a number of posters that I've seen quoted over here (Chaz and Susweel in particular) who are kidding 90% of the time. There are also a lot of "false bluster" comments where people state what they want to be the truth as fact...just because they are fans. "NINERS RULE!!!" doesn't mean Niner fans think the Niners are Monarchs.

I'm done arguing it though. Kinda pointless. In the end it always boils down to a "we are better than you" mentality.

EDIT: And BTW, if I had this exact same conversation on the Webzone, I'd get the exact same comments I'm getting from you in reverse.
 

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Marvin49 said:
Jeez Loaf....you really don't see how similar the sites are do you? You really think Seattle fans are SOOOO much more reasonable than Niner fans?
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Oh, I see similarities, but I do believe that as a whole that Seahawk fans on these boards are more reasonable.

This goes back years Marvin, I didn't come to that statement blind. I am talking about the posts from the dry years in 2004-2005. When a great deal of fans couldn't fathom a loss to the Hawks because of Niner greatness and legacy. It was right in front of them, but if a Hawks poster even thought of mentioning a potential Seahawks victory over a 2-14 Niner team, he was bludgeoned with stupidity. That is the real source of my reference to the "DenialZone".

You wouldn't find Hawk fines disrespecting the potential of the 2011 Niners. In week 16 most Hawk fans felt the Hawks could pull it off, understanding that the Niners were an exceptional team. Most of us thought it would be a close game and it was. Go read the Niner commentary from that before week 2 2013 and you will see what I am talking about. It isn't "that's going to be a big game" its "I can't wait wait for the Niners to smash the Hawks so they will drop the 42-13 talk.

They had zero reason to base those claims on, just like in most years past, but EVERY game the Hawks don't stand a chance. For the most part, around here folks would entertain the possibility. Then when the Niners lose? It is NEVER that the Hawks just won. In fact the Hawks have never actually beaten the Niners in a fair game if you read the DenialZone. That is exaggerated, but you likely know what I am referring to.

Why do you think I posted on the 49ers .com board for YEARS but never the DenialZone. Pointless. There is nothing to be discussed with a large part of that group.
 

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loafoftatupu":36ppnwcy said:
Marvin49":36ppnwcy said:
Jeez Loaf....you really don't see how similar the sites are do you? You really think Seattle fans are SOOOO much more reasonable than Niner fans?
/quote]

Oh, I see similarities, but I do believe that as a whole that Seahawk fans on these boards are more reasonable.

This goes back years Marvin, I didn't come to that statement blind. I am talking about the posts from the dry years in 2004-2005. When a great deal of fans couldn't fathom a loss to the Hawks because of Niner greatness and legacy. It was right in front of them, but if a Hawks poster even thought of mentioning a potential Seahawks victory over a 2-14 Niner team, he was bludgeoned with stupidity. That is the real source of my reference to the "DenialZone".

You wouldn't find Hawk fines disrespecting the potential of the 2011 Niners. In week 16 most Hawk fans felt the Hawks could pull it off, understanding that the Niners were an exceptional team. Most of us thought it would be a close game and it was. Go read the Niner commentary from that before week 2 2013 and you will see what I am talking about. It isn't "that's going to be a big game" its "I can't wait wait for the Niners to smash the Hawks so they will drop the 42-13 talk.

They had zero reason to base those claims on, just like in most years past, but EVERY game the Hawks don't stand a chance. For the most part, around here folks would entertain the possibility. Then when the Niners lose? It is NEVER that the Hawks just won. In fact the Hawks have never actually beaten the Niners in a fair game if you read the DenialZone. That is exaggerated, but you likely know what I am referring to.

Why do you think I posted on the 49ers .com board for YEARS but never the DenialZone. Pointless. There is nothing to be discussed with a large part of that group.

OK...I was done but now I'm not. LOL.

Nah...I actually am going to agree with you in part.

The 5 ring thing drives me nuts too and as I said before (tho might have been diff thread...don't remember) I have trouble with the average Niner fan as well. I'm sure there are 12s who drive you nuts too. If the 'hawks do go on a Steeler/Niner/Cowboy/Patriot like run here in the next few years, you will see just how annoying it is 20 years from now when peeps in your own fanbase brag about them and then you get painted with that brush. It sucks. LOL.

I guess my point is that when you are here you are more able to drown out the noise and see the good posters but are less able to over there. I am the same way here...less able to drown out the noise here than I am over there.

Lets be real...there is a lot of "noise" from both fanbases. You just have to figure out who is worth paying attention to and who isn't.

....now queue the chorus of peeps who say I'm in the latter group. :D
 

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Marvin49":1rydioy5 said:
loafoftatupu":1rydioy5 said:
Marvin49":1rydioy5 said:
Bottom line, there isn't nearly as big a difference between the two sites as either one of you would like to believe.

Wrong again NinaFreak. Find me the posts that display an appreciation for the Hawks as a unit, or the comments where the DenialZoner gives respect to the level of play displayed by Seahawk players.

With the increased traffic there, it should be quite easy to rip off a bunch. Then take an honest look at the posts from this site complimentary to the Niner roster or ability. I can likely find more just by listing my own posted information.

Jeez Loaf....you really don't see how similar the sites are do you? You really think Seattle fans are SOOOO much more reasonable than Niner fans?

I guess there is just no real way to change your mind on it. I am a poster on the Webzone. I post positive comments about the Seahawks. So do others, but they get drowned out by other posters. The exact same thing happens here.

There is a reason you call it DenialZone and over there they call you guys Seahawks.nut. The difference is only perspective.

I can't speak for her, but I think RedAlice would be more of an impartial judge.

Are there more homers over there? Yes. As I said before...there are also simply more posters. While you take every comment seriously and say "they are serious, we are sarcastic"...you can't see that its the same thing. There are a number of posters that I've seen quoted over here (Chaz and Susweel in particular) who are kidding 90% of the time. There are also a lot of "false bluster" comments where people state what they want to be the truth as fact...just because they are fans. "NINERS RULE!!!" doesn't mean Niner fans think the Niners are Monarchs.

I'm done arguing it though. Kinda pointless. In the end it always boils down to a "we are better than you" mentality.

EDIT: And BTW, if I had this exact same conversation on the Webzone, I'd get the exact same comments I'm getting from you in reverse.


I think the thing I noticed between the two sites. Is if a Niner posts here, of course Hawk fans will disagree with you, but it'll remain somewhat cordial, and lets just say our fun names for the Niners are much more tame. DenialZone and Whiners are about the worst you're going to see.

Where as when I'm on WZ responses from certain Niner fans are going to fun names that are quite a bit more insulting i.e. 12th b*****s/p*****, Sea...insert all the vulgar versions of it you've already seen. Hell I'm probably going to get warned just for even hinting at it with the asteriks. I mean I'm finally at the point where I'm ignoring the fun names, but initially it was pretty tough to read through some of it. I understand I'm a guest there, but there will always be curios fans from both fan bases that read each others forums. And you could imagine some folks read that kind of stuff and can't help but respond, hence why there are so may troll posts that hit over there. It's a vicious loop. "I say all this bad stuff about the rival fan base because they come here to troll", "Yeah but they only come here to troll because they come here out of curiosity and see all the insulting crap you write, and want to respond/troll you back".
 

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Marvin49":lhhukhug said:
loafoftatupu":lhhukhug said:
Marvin49":lhhukhug said:
Jeez Loaf....you really don't see how similar the sites are do you? You really think Seattle fans are SOOOO much more reasonable than Niner fans?
/quote]

Oh, I see similarities, but I do believe that as a whole that Seahawk fans on these boards are more reasonable.

This goes back years Marvin, I didn't come to that statement blind. I am talking about the posts from the dry years in 2004-2005. When a great deal of fans couldn't fathom a loss to the Hawks because of Niner greatness and legacy. It was right in front of them, but if a Hawks poster even thought of mentioning a potential Seahawks victory over a 2-14 Niner team, he was bludgeoned with stupidity. That is the real source of my reference to the "DenialZone".

You wouldn't find Hawk fines disrespecting the potential of the 2011 Niners. In week 16 most Hawk fans felt the Hawks could pull it off, understanding that the Niners were an exceptional team. Most of us thought it would be a close game and it was. Go read the Niner commentary from that before week 2 2013 and you will see what I am talking about. It isn't "that's going to be a big game" its "I can't wait wait for the Niners to smash the Hawks so they will drop the 42-13 talk.

They had zero reason to base those claims on, just like in most years past, but EVERY game the Hawks don't stand a chance. For the most part, around here folks would entertain the possibility. Then when the Niners lose? It is NEVER that the Hawks just won. In fact the Hawks have never actually beaten the Niners in a fair game if you read the DenialZone. That is exaggerated, but you likely know what I am referring to.

Why do you think I posted on the 49ers .com board for YEARS but never the DenialZone. Pointless. There is nothing to be discussed with a large part of that group.

OK...I was done but now I'm not. LOL.

Nah...I actually am going to agree with you in part.

The 5 ring thing drives me nuts too and as I said before (tho might have been diff thread...don't remember) I have trouble with the average Niner fan as well. I'm sure there are 12s who drive you nuts too. If the 'hawks do go on a Steeler/Niner/Cowboy/Patriot like run here in the next few years, you will see just how annoying it is 20 years from now when peeps in your own fanbase brag about them and then you get painted with that brush. It sucks. LOL.

I guess my point is that when you are here you are more able to drown out the noise and see the good posters but are less able to over there. I am the same way here...less able to drown out the noise here than I am over there.

Lets be real...there is a lot of "noise" from both fanbases. You just have to figure out who is worth paying attention to and who isn't.

....now queue the chorus of peeps who say I'm in the latter group. :D

If you haven't been banned on here, I'm assuming you're in the first group.
 

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ZagHawk":2u6xug6z said:
Marvin49":2u6xug6z said:
loafoftatupu":2u6xug6z said:
Marvin49":2u6xug6z said:
Bottom line, there isn't nearly as big a difference between the two sites as either one of you would like to believe.

Wrong again NinaFreak. Find me the posts that display an appreciation for the Hawks as a unit, or the comments where the DenialZoner gives respect to the level of play displayed by Seahawk players.

With the increased traffic there, it should be quite easy to rip off a bunch. Then take an honest look at the posts from this site complimentary to the Niner roster or ability. I can likely find more just by listing my own posted information.

Jeez Loaf....you really don't see how similar the sites are do you? You really think Seattle fans are SOOOO much more reasonable than Niner fans?

I guess there is just no real way to change your mind on it. I am a poster on the Webzone. I post positive comments about the Seahawks. So do others, but they get drowned out by other posters. The exact same thing happens here.

There is a reason you call it DenialZone and over there they call you guys Seahawks.nut. The difference is only perspective.

I can't speak for her, but I think RedAlice would be more of an impartial judge.

Are there more homers over there? Yes. As I said before...there are also simply more posters. While you take every comment seriously and say "they are serious, we are sarcastic"...you can't see that its the same thing. There are a number of posters that I've seen quoted over here (Chaz and Susweel in particular) who are kidding 90% of the time. There are also a lot of "false bluster" comments where people state what they want to be the truth as fact...just because they are fans. "NINERS RULE!!!" doesn't mean Niner fans think the Niners are Monarchs.

I'm done arguing it though. Kinda pointless. In the end it always boils down to a "we are better than you" mentality.

EDIT: And BTW, if I had this exact same conversation on the Webzone, I'd get the exact same comments I'm getting from you in reverse.


I think the thing I noticed between the two sites. Is if a Niner posts here, of course Hawk fans will disagree with you, but it'll remain somewhat cordial, and lets just say our fun names for the Niners are much more tame. DenialZone and Whiners are about the worst you're going to see.

Where as when I'm on WZ responses from certain Niner fans are going to fun names that are quite a bit more insulting i.e. 12th b*****s/p*****, Sea...insert all the vulgar versions of it you've already seen. Hell I'm probably going to get warned just for even hinting at it with the asteriks. I mean I'm finally at the point where I'm ignoring the fun names, but initially it was pretty tough to read through some of it. I understand I'm a guest there, but there will always be curios fans from both fan bases that read each others forums. And you could imagine some folks read that kind of stuff and can't help but respond, hence why there are so may troll posts that hit over there. It's a vicious loop. "I say all this bad stuff about the rival fan base because they come here to troll", "Yeah but they only come here to troll because they come here out of curiosity and see all the insulting crap you write, and want to respond/troll you back".


LOL.

I dunno man....I've pretty much read every conceivable permutation of the names Kaepernick and Harbaugh. LOL.

I learned a long time ago just to tune them out. Hell...most of the time I don't even see them anymore. Loaf always uses them but its gotten to the point that I don't even notice anymore. LOL.
 

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RolandDeschain":7c04iqei said:
Marvin49":7c04iqei said:
I can't speak for her, but I think RedAlice would be more of an impartial judge.
Quoting this so you can't go back on it after she hopefully responds about it. :)

HA!!

Fair enough. :)
 

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RichNhansom":28tp410c said:
Giedi":28tp410c said:
RedAlice":28tp410c said:
Giedi":28tp410c said:
Also, you really can't call a franchise doing a choke job if they've won the darn thing 5 times before they lost their first one.

You can call it a choke job for the last TWO decades without disrespecting the "5 rings," in fact, you can call it a choke job for the last twenty years and have total love and honor and admiration for the 5 times they've won the whole darn thing.

That is just fact.
I disagree. That's an opinion, *your* opinion. :mrgreen: Not a fact. It's hard to call it a choke job if the team you are defining as chokers have won it before. Now Colin definitely has issues the he has to resolve, *passing* issues that Russell Wilson has long since mastered. No doubt about it that Wilson, at this point in time, is the better QB. Not only is that a fact, it's an uncomfortable fact for me. :angry017:


So I understand you, because Joe Montana was an excellent QB Kaepernick can't possibly choke? Or the team that choked away the last three years can't be because of choking because you won a super bowl in 1982?

Your logic is not sound. Your team has zero super bowls. Understand that. Your team has zero super bowls.

Now previous regimes with different owners, players, management, coaches and likely 90+ percent of your fan base have won super bowls. A lifetime ago your franchise was one of the proudest dynasties the league had ever seen but that gives you zero credibility to the team that is on the field today. Get out of here thinking you are some kind of royalty that has winning bred in. There is a much better argument for inbreeding in your fan base than not.

You are obviously but hurt that we don't credit your current team for the history of your franchise but there is a reason for that. They don't deserve to be. You denialzoners are over their talking about royalty and using words like Regal to describe your team and fans. It is pathetic and you should be embarrassed. This isn't a dog show. Your current regime, fans, players, coaches, owners, water boys and even the judges that keep your players out of jail when they are acting the Niner way are all different. Your current team hasn't done shit. Wait, they have choked away three years of good football. Something Montana never did.

You should go back to your denialzone where a cheater is defined as a team that beats you instead of a team that loses draft picks for shit like well you know, CHEATING. Go back and bask in the glow of your convicted felon and sleaze ball Eddie D. A guy known for bribery and cheating and was trying to buy a damn river boat casino. No, nothing behind this curtain. The same guy who tried to con the entire bay area into a stadium that paid him 30 million dollars to build and he got 30% of the profit from the mall they were going to attach to it. Wait a minute. Why were they going to attach a mall to a football stadium? And why would Eddie D get 30 million and 30% of the profit just for closing the deal? You should also ask why they were counting dead peoples votes to pass the stadium.

Get out of here with your history. It is meaningless to the team that is the CURRENT super bowl champions. Not past, CURRENT. Trying to diminish our CURRENT championship by placing it in the past like yours when we are still the same regime, ownership, FO, Coaching staff, fans and essentially the same players is beyond potato. It screams but hurt. Go lick your wounds somewhere else. There is a place where you can get your brethren to lick them with you. You know where it is. It's were you talk non stop shit about our CURRENT super ring.
I salute you on shooting a lot of straw men there. :mrgreen: Your aim is magnificent. :th2thumbs:

As for Choke jobs, you can define it whatever way you want. Defining it is simply your perspective opinion. I Agree that Colin has not won the super bowl, and has twice been very close but unfortunately no cigar, so yeah I can agree Colin has choked in the past, but the team, the franchise, the organization isn't a choker if they have 5 Lombardies at their headquarters. That was my simple point. The straw men issues about feelings hurt, Eddie cheating, and current superbowl championships, were magnificently destroyed. Congratulations! :thirishdrinkers:
 

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loafoftatupu":jflcli2d said:
Marvin49":jflcli2d said:
Bottom line, there isn't nearly as big a difference between the two sites as either one of you would like to believe.

Wrong again NinaFreak. Find me the posts that display an appreciation for the Hawks as a unit, or the comments where the DenialZoner gives respect to the level of play displayed by Seahawk players.

With the increased traffic there, it should be quite easy to rip off a bunch. Then take an honest look at the posts from this site complimentary to the Niner roster or ability. I can likely find more just by listing my own posted information.
I wouldn't sweat on that stuff Loafo. While you have a very charming and eloquent player in Mr. Sherman, we unfortunately are not blessed with such a scholar athlete at his level. Our player spokesmen are downright pedestrian when compared to him. I think some of the fans of the Webzone are quite affected in a deep way by his eloquence that unfortunately when fans of the very talented 'Hawk team do show up on the Webzone those who have been affected by the sheer eloquence of Mr. Sherman express those feelings in various ways to those 'Hawk fans who happen to be there at an unfortunate time. :mrgreen:
 
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