Offensive line rankings

[Ozzy]

This shows 3 different sites grading for pass protection. Interesting to see the different numbers

 

[Ozzy]

I have some thoughts that I’ll try to post later.

 

[Shane Falco]

Looks like all three sites agree that our pass pro sucks.

 

[Ozzy]

Although surprisingly there are multiple teams with a worse line. Scary.

 

[Shane Falco]

Yeah, hard to believe. But it would be interesting to match up all the sites rankings on pass pro, run blocking grades and see how close/far apart they are.

 

[Ozzy]

Can’t find the run blocking one but this is as close as I could find

 

[cymatica]

I've heard several guys who worked or played for teams over the years say PFF grades aren't accurate for evaluating Oline performance. Absolutely no way the Rams Oline is worse

 

[Ozzy]

I've heard several guys who worked or played for teams over the years say PFF grades aren't accurate for evaluating Oline performance. Absolutely no way the Rams Oline is worse

Only PFF has it worse looks like the other two sites have it better. Neither are good but Seahawks are worse imo

 

[Ozzy]

By all 3 sites Seattle is above 4-5 teams though. Doesn’t mean they’re good but that it’s a league wide issue.

 

[chris98251]

Lok who is playoff bound and where their lines rank, tells you something, QB or not you need to build from inside out also.

 

[Ozzy]

Yep very few from the bottom are playing well, Pittsburg and the Rams? That’s about it

 

[Rat]

Was curious how these better OLs were constructed so I looked at the top 3.

Broncos

LT: Garett Bolles - 1st round (20th overall) 2017 draft out of Utah. Had a horrific rookie season, and was an absolute penalty machine early in his career, but was somehow able to turn it around and become one of the best LTs in the league.

LG: Ben Powers - 2023 FA (4 years, $51m). Signed basically the minute free agency started as part of a push by the Broncos front office to be aggressive in fixing their OL after the first year of the Russell Wilson era disappointed. Powers was fresh off a phenomenal season in Baltimore where he didn't give up a single sack.

C: Luke Wattenberg - 5th round pick in 2022 out of Washington. Barely played his first two seasons and was only in on 4% of the Broncos offensive snaps a year ago, but has settled nicely into the starting center spot this season.

RG: Quinn Mienerz - 3rd round pick in 2021 out of Wisconsin-Whitewater

RT: Mike McGlinchey - 2023 FA (5 years, $87.5m). Signed the same day as Powers. Was a former top 10 pick of the Niners who looked like a star early, but fell out of favor due to injuries and struggles in pass protection. Was largely seen as a significant overpay by the Broncos.
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Tampa Bay

LT: Tristan Wirfs - 1st round pick in 2020 out of Iowa (13th overall). Has basically been one of the league's elite LTs since he first stepped onto the field.

LG: Ben Bredeson - 2024 FA (1 year, $3m). Cheap free agent signing in March who started 16 games for a horrific Giants OL a year ago.

C: Graham Barton - Rookie 1st round pick (26th overall) out of Michigan. Already looking like one of the league's best centers.

RG: Cody Mauch - 2nd round pick in 2023 out of North Dakota State

RT: Luke Goedeke - 2nd round pick in 2022 out of Central Michigan

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Green Bay

LT: Rasheed Walker - 7th round pick in 2022 draft out of Penn State

LG: Elgton Jenkins - 2nd round pick in 2019 draft out of Mississippi State

C: Josh Myers - 2nd round pick in 2021 draft out of THE Ohio State

RG: Sean Rhyan - 3rd round pick in 2022 draft out of UCLA

RT: Zach Tom - 4th round pick in 2022 draft out of Wake Forest

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Not sure what conclusions can be drawn from all that. I guess don't overlook the small school prospects. Only one of those three teams made significant use of free agency.

 

[SonicHawk]

Does this take away from the Baker rhetoric now that he's got the same record as Geno with the top 2 rated line?

Also, is Joe Burrow just the GOAT?

I'm constantly surprised to see Laken Tomlinson being ranked highly in the individual ones when I constantly watch him **** everything up.

 

[Spin Doctor]

Yep very few from the bottom are playing well, Pittsburg and the Rams? That’s about it

I'm so mad that Stafford is on the Rams. He was one of my favorite players until he joined the Rams. That guy knows how to sling it under pressure, really good at navigating the pocket despite not being that mobile too. I'm curious how he'd do in Jared Goff's situation on the Lions.

 

[Ozzy]

Was curious how these better OLs were constructed so I looked at the top 3.

Broncos

LT: Garett Bolles - 1st round (20th overall) 2017 draft out of Utah. Had a horrific rookie season, and was an absolute penalty machine early in his career, but was somehow able to turn it around and become one of the best LTs in the league.

LG: Ben Powers - 2023 FA (4 years, $51m). Signed basically the minute free agency started as part of a push by the Broncos front office to be aggressive in fixing their OL after the first year of the Russell Wilson era disappointed. Powers was fresh off a phenomenal season in Baltimore where he didn't give up a single sack.

C: Luke Wattenberg - 5th round pick in 2022 out of Washington. Barely played his first two seasons and was only in on 4% of the Broncos offensive snaps a year ago, but has settled nicely into the starting center spot this season.

RG: Quinn Mienerz - 3rd round pick in 2021 out of Wisconsin-Whitewater

RT: Mike McGlinchey - 2023 FA (5 years, $87.5m). Signed the same day as Powers. Was a former top 10 pick of the Niners who looked like a star early, but fell out of favor due to injuries and struggles in pass protection. Was largely seen as a significant overpay by the Broncos.
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Tampa Bay

LT: Tristan Wirfs - 1st round pick in 2020 out of Iowa (13th overall). Has basically been one of the league's elite LTs since he first stepped onto the field.

LG: Ben Bredeson - 2024 FA (1 year, $3m). Cheap free agent signing in March who started 16 games for a horrific Giants OL a year ago.

C: Graham Barton - Rookie 1st round pick (26th overall) out of Michigan. Already looking like one of the league's best centers.

RG: Cody Mauch - 2nd round pick in 2023 out of North Dakota State

RT: Luke Goedeke - 2nd round pick in 2022 out of Central Michigan

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Green Bay

LT: Rasheed Walker - 7th round pick in 2022 draft out of Penn State

LG: Elgton Jenkins - 2nd round pick in 2019 draft out of Mississippi State

C: Josh Myers - 2nd round pick in 2021 draft out of THE Ohio State

RG: Sean Rhyan - 3rd round pick in 2022 draft out of UCLA

RT: Zach Tom - 4th round pick in 2022 draft out of Wake Forest

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Not sure what conclusions can be drawn from all that. I guess don't overlook the small school prospects. Only one of those three teams made significant use of free agency.

Good stuff!

 

[Ozzy]

Does this take away from the Baker rhetoric now that he's got the same record as Geno with the top 2 rated line?

Also, is Joe Burrow just the GOAT?

I'm constantly surprised to see Laken Tomlinson being ranked highly in the individual ones when I constantly watch him **** everything up.

Nah Baker has been flat out good. I’ve never been a fan of r along quarterbacks based on record because there are so many other variables. But I’m biased and need to relieve that because I think Marino is the best ever and it doesn’t work if it’s not true.

Burrow is unbelievable. I have a hard time ranking him, Mahomes, Allen and Lamar.

Fully agree on Tomlinson

 

[Ozzy]

This is in true pass sets only

 

[Ozzy]

Based on this our tackles are a little overrated…

 

[MyrtleHawk]

I'm so mad that Stafford is on the Rams. He was one of my favorite players until he joined the Rams. That guy knows how to sling it under pressure, really good at navigating the pocket despite not being that mobile too. I'm curious how he'd do in Jared Goff's situation on the Lions.

Just think, the Rams traded for Stafford ~1 year prior to Russell Wilson's trade...We could've been the ones that traded for him with Russ.

 

[cymatica]

Only PFF has it worse looks like the other two sites have it better. Neither are good but Seahawks are worse imo

Yeah didn't notice the other ones. I think the same issue applies. It's basically just an educated guess when the blocking assignments are unknown