O-Line Rotation

[Lords of Scythia]

It's a great idea. Line your best players more situationally. Carp is a good run blocker but has slow feet in pass blocking. McQ is a better pass blocker at guard and bailey maybe better than both but they are trying to bring him along slower I think.

If we subbed them in like that it would sort of signal what we were running. And besides with Wilson a run can get audibled to a pass any time or he can take off.

Tendencies are a huge part of game-planning in football. They have percentages for every formation and personnel grouping, so I have a hard time believing it'll become any sort of trend. But catching the Falcons a week before you get your starting tackles back seems to have little downside. You shake things up for a game and then everything goes back to normal. Smart move by Cable, who I've been a little down on.

Agree. If you're going to do it, then the week before you expect your starters back is the time. There's no way the Falcons could have seen enough tape to understand what was happening with the groupings in real time. However, I did notice that Seattle kept things surprising. I'm pretty sure Bailey was in on a 3rd-and-long run. I'd expect more stability at Tackle once Okung/Breno get back into game shape. I could see them platooning the Guards, but perhaps not on a strictly situational basis.

Teams have guys taking high-angle pictures thoughout the game which are brought to the sidelines. They also have a few minutes at the half to look at things. I think it's possible somebody could pick it up during the game.

 

[plyka]

It's a great idea. Line your best players more situationally. Carp is a good run blocker but has slow feet in pass blocking. McQ is a better pass blocker at guard and bailey maybe better than both but they are trying to bring him along slower I think.

There is always the other side of the coin. If you line up people based on where they are most effective on any given play, then you may give that play away.

Most likely Cable was trying out the players at different positions because he wanted to see which one was best suited for what position. I doubt he is thinking about rotating offensive linemen into different positions, unless it is for in-game rest. There really is no benefit to it.

 

[Blitzer88]

I too was amazed by the rotation of olineman yesterday, but man was it effective. And yeah, Bailey looks like a good piece to keep around.

 

[plyka]

Bailey was definitely the most impressive. The engine on this kid was non-stop. And he is big, strong and pretty fast. I don't understand how he went undrafted, but then again the oline is a place where talent is tough to judge. Unlike a position like WR where you see a Dez Bryant or Calvin Johnson and there is little to no doubt. There are a lot of 2nd, 3rd and later round picks who are better than 1st rounders at the oline position.

 

[HawKnPeppa]

Cable's plug and play line

Hey, he must me a USB cable :lol: 8)

 

[kigenzun]

OMFG I loved watching the rotation of 'interchangable parts' offensive linemen, in and out of the game, due to down and distance, game situations, and specific play calling. This was genius. I been begging and begging for Alvin Bailey for weeks now, and man, it paid big dividends bigtime, keeping the guys we did have in this game... fresh, ready to play, and most importantly unscathed.

Their defensive line looked so confused because the same guys would line up at different positions play to play, and then different guys would rotate in and do the same; it was genius... pure genius.
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[Jville]

> Carroll said James Carpenter had an excellent game Sunday. Said he was very effective in the run game. Carroll also said Lemuel Jeanpierre played well. Rookie Alvin Bailey will continue to get looks. With the return of Giacomini and Unger, Carroll said “We’re going to use all options,” mentioning there will be a lot of competition in practice. He also added, “Just because those guys are back doesn’t mean you have to play them the whole game.”
> Carroll said J.R. Sweezy was dehydrated at one point and they tried to rehydrate him during halftime.

Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks ... more-20327#storylink=cpy

 

[Pie Romania]

Bailey had a great game....

Anyone break down Bailey's performance against the Falcons yet? Tried looking, but came up with nothing. Was hoping there was a page that had clips with breakdowns like I had seen in preseason. I know on one play he blew up the DT when lined up at Guard.

 

[Jville]

This was perhaps the most interesting quote of the week.

(On if he will design a nickel pass blocking package…) “We might. We might. Tom [Cable] referred to it as, ‘Going to the bullpen’ at this point. So we’re kind of into to baseball analogies.”

Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks ... more-20331#storylink=cpy

 

[ivotuk]

Jeanpierre is a damn good center.

I kept wondering how long we have him for because the dude looks like he's strong as an ox.

I believe Cable wanted to get film on different players in different positions, and to give them exposure at those positions.

 

[ivotuk]

> Carroll said James Carpenter had an excellent game Sunday. Said he was very effective in the run game. Carroll also said Lemuel Jeanpierre played well. Rookie Alvin Bailey will continue to get looks. With the return of Giacomini and Unger, Carroll said “We’re going to use all options,” mentioning there will be a lot of competition in practice. He also added, “Just because those guys are back doesn’t mean you have to play them the whole game.”
> Carroll said J.R. Sweezy was dehydrated at one point and they tried to rehydrate him during halftime.

Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks ... more-20327#storylink=cpy

There are some really good comments under those articles. The kind that you would never get from some knuckle-dragging fan bases.

I particularly enjoyed this one

"I have this, to me, amusing thought: that Percy Harvin is like one of those characters in a play or a novel that everyone keeps talking about but who actually never comes on stage or shows up in the book. An example might be Niles Crain’s wife Maris in Frasier. We hear all about her, her little quirks, her doings. But we never, ever, see her.

Will Percy ever show up?

And poor guy (so to speak,) what’s he going to have to do to meet our expectations after all this build-up?"

 

[DavidSeven]

Bailey had a great game....

Anyone break down Bailey's performance against the Falcons yet? Tried looking, but came up with nothing. Was hoping there was a page that had clips with breakdowns like I had seen in preseason. I know on one play he blew up the DT when lined up at Guard.

Here's this:

Ryan McQueen ‏@RYAN_C_M 11 Nov
According to @PFF Alvin Bailey did not allow pressures on any of his 16 pass-blocking snaps.

Boy, if Bailey can prove himself to be a legit LT in this league, that's going to be huge. We used no draft capital on him. You usually have to burn an incredibly high pick to get a reliable tackle. Ton of potential with him and Bowie.

 

[Jville]

What my eyes and some coaches see ..... is a kid named Bailey who might turn out to be one of those very rare ... once in life time starters that excells at multiple positions.

(On Alvin Bailey…) “He handled. He handled it really well. He’s a real bright kid, which really helps. He was able to play on the right side and left side and all that and jump in and jump out. So that’s really challenging for an offensive lineman and he handled it really well. He played good football for us and was physical, he had some key blocks at right guard and at tackle and that’s hard to do that. So he’s come a long way. It’s really a tremendous asset to us right now.”

Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks ... more-20331#storylink=cpy

 

[Pie Romania]

I have felt since his last year at Arkansas that he'd be a stud guard in the league and was rooting for the Hawks to snag him from the 3rd round on. Was confused why he went undrafted. Then when the Hawks got him, I was very happy. When the draft and UDFA were over, I felt he would be the biggest contributor/surprise as a rookie with Luke Willson being my 2nd favorite pick. Christine Michael is going to be good too, but I was expecting he would be the pick after his comments on twitter about his visit. Really liked Brandon Williams as well, but haven't heard much about him with the Ravens.

Anyway, I want to see a lot more of Bailey going forward. If he's as good as I had hoped back in April and continues to improve, I want him starting at one of the guard positions when Okung and Giacomini are back. He's done well at Tackle, but he'll consistently shine and make his career at guard. Hopefully they give him at least one drive at guard early in the game to see how he does against the Vikings D-Line.

 

[Lynch Mob]

we need Bailey's speed at LT on passing downs.

 

[HawKnPeppa]

I have felt since his last year at Arkansas that he'd be a stud guard in the league and was rooting for the Hawks to snag him from the 3rd round on. Was confused why he went undrafted. Then when the Hawks got him, I was very happy. When the draft and UDFA were over, I felt he would be the biggest contributor/surprise as a rookie with Luke Willson being my 2nd favorite pick. Christine Michael is going to be good too, but I was expecting he would be the pick after his comments on twitter about his visit. Really liked Brandon Williams as well, but haven't heard much about him with the Ravens.

Anyway, I want to see a lot more of Bailey going forward. If he's as good as I had hoped back in April and continues to improve, I want him starting at one of the guard positions when Okung and Giacomini are back. He's done well at Tackle, but he'll consistently shine and make his career at guard. Hopefully they give him at least one drive at guard early in the game to see how he does against the Vikings D-Line.

This is a good situation to have. His idea position might be at Guard, but there's also a reason he replaced Ginger on passing downs. This kid is the embodiment of versatile. Just wait until he gets enough experience under his belt. No reason to ever put Ginger at LT once that happens.