hawknation2014":2628eqh2 said:[ quote="Anthony!"]Treghc":2628eqh2 said:hawknation2014":2628eqh2 said:Fun fact: Norwood is the only receiver on the roster who has yet to drop a pass. He's also caught all four of the passes thrown his way.
Not according to this:
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2014/
Kearse actually has 0 drops (remember, drops are uncontested. Having a defender force the ball it does not equate to a dropped pass), despite the constant nagging he gets from everyone around here.
Richardson has 0 drops.
Baldwin has 3
Willson has 2
Lynch has 2
Helfet has 1
Lockette has 1
Everyone else has 0
Dude really so the TD drop yesterday is not a drop? Come on 99% of the Wr in the NFL catch that pass. Those stats are great but the key is uncontested. So they are not taking into account catchable balls. only the passes I could catch, meaning wide open no one around you. Kearse has dropped a lot of NFL wr catchable balls. Its a fact almost every week you hear an announcers say it. I like Kearse but this year he is not getting it done at all.
SomersetHawk":1lcqy9uv said:firebee":1lcqy9uv said:You did not watch the same game I did yesterday. Apparently you missed Kearse picking Baldwin off on flat route, instead of picking Baldwins man off. You must've missed him sliding off blocks early and releasing DBs for pursuit in the running game. You've definitely missed him letting off the gas halfway through his routes, instead of staying on the gas and trying to create separation.SomersetHawk":1lcqy9uv said:Apart from that drop Kearse was pretty useful yesterday, I'd rather he ate into Richardson's snaps given the situations we were putting Richardson in.
You just made all of that up didn't you?
I know he's becoming a popular whipping boy, and some of it's justified, but Kearse is making as many plays as anyone out there and leads us in receiving over the past two weeks. He's a catch and a better thrown ball (last week) away from being raved about on here. He's put up more in the last two games than Richardson has all season and over the past few weeks they've had comparable snappage. For what it's worth I don't think we're utilizing Richardson right, but my point is that if we're taking snaps away from anybody, it probably shouldn't be our most productive receiver of late.
hawknation2014":3gi3o7xh said:Treghc":3gi3o7xh said:hawknation2014":3gi3o7xh said:Fun fact: Norwood is the only receiver on the roster who has yet to drop a pass. He's also caught all four of the passes thrown his way.
Not according to this:
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2014/
Kearse actually has 0 drops (remember, drops are uncontested. Having a defender force the ball it does not equate to a dropped pass), despite the constant nagging he gets from everyone around here.
Richardson has 0 drops.
Baldwin has 3
Willson has 2
Lynch has 2
Helfet has 1
Lockette has 1
Everyone else has 0
That information doesn't look right. Willson definitely has at least one more drop than that. Kearse has two drops, including one big drop of a catchable ball in the last game and one drop against Dallas.
Also, Bryan Walters definitely dropped a screen pass earlier in the season. He was basically uncovered on that 2nd down play, so I don't see how that fits with the definition of "contested."
I would just say their definition is a little whack, to be honest with you.
[/quote]Largent80":1vx1bz21 said:
Treghc":1ndo9yi5 said:hawknation2014":1ndo9yi5 said:Treghc":1ndo9yi5 said:hawknation2014":1ndo9yi5 said:Fun fact: Norwood is the only receiver on the roster who has yet to drop a pass. He's also caught all four of the passes thrown his way.
Not according to this:
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2014/
Kearse actually has 0 drops (remember, drops are uncontested. Having a defender force the ball it does not equate to a dropped pass), despite the constant nagging he gets from everyone around here.
Richardson has 0 drops.
Baldwin has 3
Willson has 2
Lynch has 2
Helfet has 1
Lockette has 1
Everyone else has 0
That information doesn't look right. Willson definitely has at least one more drop than that. Kearse has two drops, including one big drop of a catchable ball in the last game and one drop against Dallas.
Also, Bryan Walters definitely dropped a screen pass earlier in the season. He was basically uncovered on that 2nd down play, so I don't see how that fits with the definition of "contested."
I would just say their definition is a little whack, to be honest with you.
It is a rather subjective stat, I agree. But it's hard to set a base line with such subjectivity unless it is actually uncontested. You can't exactly measure the newtonian force of impact a receiver gets when being interrupted.
Largent80":g71efbmd said:Nope. Watch the play live. That defender was going towards the middle of the end zone.
Largent80":2vnjafuj said:ok it was the 6, but he is WIDE OPEN....You have to throw it there.
Largent80":mnru4ky4 said:
[/quote]Largent80":lvnz1zof said:
Largent80":35as0mt4 said:
jammerhawk":3te3924c said:Maybe it was the right read, maybe not; but I've noticed that for some reason Norwood appears to be invisible to RW. There was a play in the Giants game where Wilson threw underneath for a short completion when Norwoood was totally W-I-D-E O-P-E-N in the right rear of the end zone. Something is missing here as I don't get why Norwood isn't being used more. On the above play Norwood could likely have made it to the end zone if RW had lead him a bit to the inside to catch the ball.
Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda I suppose.
Treghc":32qj0vgh said:hawknation2014":32qj0vgh said:Fun fact: Norwood is the only receiver on the roster who has yet to drop a pass. He's also caught all four of the passes thrown his way.
Not according to this:
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2014/
Kearse actually has 0 drops (remember, drops are uncontested. Having a defender force the ball it does not equate to a dropped pass), despite the constant nagging he gets from everyone around here.
Richardson has 0 drops.
Baldwin has 3
Willson has 2
Lynch has 2
Helfet has 1
Lockette has 1
Everyone else has 0
Hasselbeck":6dhvxjjk said:Largent80":6dhvxjjk said:
Open yes.. getting into the end zone.. no.
Hasselbeck":1sfgecg9 said:Largent80":1sfgecg9 said:
Open yes.. getting into the end zone.. no.
The Chiefs were giving up everything underneath and defending the end zone. Norwood catches that and will be swarmed by two Chiefs in bounds, and you get no points
The play was end zone or bust with no timeouts. Wilson made the right read