NFL.com Head Coach Power Rankings -- Pete: #15

[DavidSeven]

It makes more sense to put coaches in tiers. Pete Carroll is in the elite tier. He may be the best teacher in football, and he has successfully implemented an entirely new culture in the organization and has given the team its own identity. His Xs and Os and in-game coaching is underrated. This team was generally terrific in the second half, which is usually a sign of great coaching. He'll occassionally take risks on 4th down plays and ST calls, and I understand that bothers some people, but that's honestly just a very small part of what he does as a coach. Look at the player development we've seen over the past three years and name me a coach that has done better in that regard.

I have a ton of respect for a lot of the guys in the top 15, but honestly, there isn't another guy I'd want running this organization. Call me a homer, but I love what this guy stands for on and off the field, and I love the product he delivers on Sundays, even when we lose.

 

[kearly]

Three years from now, Carroll will head this list. Book it.

 

[CANHawk]

It makes more sense to put coaches in tiers. Pete Carroll is in the elite tier. He may be the best teacher in football, and he has successfully implemented an entirely new culture in the organization and has given the team its own identity. His Xs and Os and in-game coaching is underrated. This team was generally terrific in the second half, which is usually a sign of great coaching. He'll occassionally take risks on 4th down plays and ST calls, and I understand that bothers some people, but that's honestly just a very small part of what he does as a coach. Look at the player development we've seen over the past three years and name me a coach that has done better in that regard.

I have a ton of respect for a lot of the guys in the top 15, but honestly, there isn't another guy I'd want running this organization. Call me a homer, but I love what this guy stands for on and off the field, and I love the product he delivers on Sundays, even when we lose.

I definitely agree with lists like this being done in tiered form as opposed to a 1-32. Really, there isn't all that much difference between #10 and #15, but labeling them #10 and #15 sure makes it sound like that #10 guy is way better when he really isn't.

They probably should have had tiers labeled "Hall of Fame" (which really only Belichick probably belongs in... and maybe Coughlin), "Elite", "Near Elite", "Good", "Average", "Below Average", "Bad" and "Chan Gailey".

 

[General Manager]

Ranking Jim second just screams socialmedia/popularity type journalism. Yes SF is a playoff team but really don't you need to win a Super Bowl before your elevated over some of the names on this list.

 

[Subzero717]

Ranking Jim second just screams socialmedia/popularity type journalism. Yes SF is a playoff team but really don't you need to win a Super Bowl before your elevated over some of the names on this list.

We agree on something.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

Three years from now, Carroll will head this list. Book it.

Quit trying to steal my schtick. I regularly maintain the next 3-4 years will solidify the Seahawks into the elite franchise club.

 

[Scottemojo]

The decision by Pete to have an open competition was brilliant, but was roundly dismissed as stupid by almost all in the media. His big picture moves are masterstrokes.

 

[Crizilla]

i have no issue with PC being number 15 on this list. The homers in this thread saying he should be higher don't really understand Pete's lack of X's and O's when it comes to coaching. He's a motivator. He gets the team pumped up. That's pretty much it. He single handedly lost us the ATL playoff game last season. 2 times in the red zone in the first half he made terrible play calling. We ended up getting 0 points after 2 trips in the red zone. Unacceptable. Flat out unacceptable. Then he calls time out like kicker is trying a chip shot 20 yard field goal to see if he can lol ice him. Of course he misses it and then makes the 2nd kick. I have no issue with saying every other coach in the league would have at least gotten 3 points in the first half (which would have been enough for us to win the game). You simply cannot leave points on the board. We weren't down 50-0. It was only 20-0. A few possession down with an entire half to play. Oh god this is making me sick thinking about this again

 

[RolandDeschain]

Oh god this is making me sick thinking about this again

"Cryzilla" is an appropriate forum name for you.

 

[sc85sis]

I have no problem with saying that Pete occasionally makes a bad decision. Most coaches do because they're human and human beings occasionally do dumb things. But saying he has no Xs and Os knowledge is just laughable.

 

[drdiags]

The other part of the biotching about calling time-out on the kicker, only to have him miss is that the kicker knew a time-out was called. He cheated and went ahead and kicked a warm-up kick because the officials were vague on what happens in this situation, which had occurred the day before. I don't like the icing rule, seems rather bush league but it is done all the time.

 

[DavidSeven]

Yeah, everyone on the field knew the play was dead before the kicker made his attempt. He was obviously gauging distance and wasn't really "trying." If you really thought that time out cost us the game, then I don't think you were paying attention.

As far as going for it on 4th, I'm not even sure if I can call that Xs and Os. That's such a miniscule part of coaching in the grand scheme of things. If you want to criticize that call on an Xs and Os level, then you criticize the formation, the personnel, the blocking scheme, etc. Call him a poor decision maker or whatever, but the decision to go for it on fourth alone is not a matter of Xs and Os.

Finally, if you think this defense went from basically worst to first in three years through Pete's "motivation" alone, then ... yeah, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[warden]

Pete's rah rah style will never work in the NFL, 3 years later, the rest of the league is starting to copy Pete Carroll. In 2 years time, Pete will be considered to be a major trend setter.

 

[The Outfield]

I'm getting pretty tired of power rankings.... so many of them are just a joke

 

[seahawkfreak]

Carroll comes into a 4-12 team, guts the roster and has 290 roster transactions, and beats the defending Super Bowl champs with a 7-9 regular season record, but he's BARELY top half of the league for coach rankings?

Yeah, alright.

This and the fact that he has brought in a culture that has created one of the most talented teams in the league. And if they are not the most talented,,, one of the youngest,,,, with a supreme control on the cap. Top 5 in all three categories is pretty damn impressive! Yes of course JS is very much a part of this but many many teams with historical coaches have had great GMs and owners. Yeah Ill say it,, Trickle Down Football. Its okay though we dont root for popularity. We want Super Bowls!! That is when our redemption begins and Pete will lead the way

 

[RichNhansom]

Carroll comes into a 4-12 team, guts the roster and has 290 roster transactions, and beats the defending Super Bowl champs with a 7-9 regular season record, but he's BARELY top half of the league for coach rankings?

Yeah, alright.

This and the fact that he has brought in a culture that has created one of the most talented teams in the league. And if they are not the most talented,,, one of the youngest,,,, with a supreme control on the cap. Top 5 in all three categories is pretty damn impressive! Yes of course JS is very much a part of this but many many teams with historical coaches have had great GMs and owners. Yeah Ill say it,, Trickle Down Football. Its okay though we dont root for popularity. We want Super Bowls!! That is when our redemption begins and Pete will lead the way

Wait a minute. If Pete is really only league average and John is the difference maker in how our team has become a power house in such a rapid fashion then why hasn't John won exec of the year?

What am I missing because you don't completely scrap an entire roster and turn that team into the consensus #1 rated team in a three year time period without either both John and Pete both doing one hell of alot or one or the other completely dominating their field beyond question.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

Carroll comes into a 4-12 team, guts the roster and has 290 roster transactions, and beats the defending Super Bowl champs with a 7-9 regular season record, but he's BARELY top half of the league for coach rankings?

Yeah, alright.

This and the fact that he has brought in a culture that has created one of the most talented teams in the league. And if they are not the most talented,,, one of the youngest,,,, with a supreme control on the cap. Top 5 in all three categories is pretty damn impressive! Yes of course JS is very much a part of this but many many teams with historical coaches have had great GMs and owners. Yeah Ill say it,, Trickle Down Football. Its okay though we dont root for popularity. We want Super Bowls!! That is when our redemption begins and Pete will lead the way

Wait a minute. If Pete is really only league average and John is the difference maker in how our team has become a power house in such a rapid fashion then why hasn't John won exec of the year?

What am I missing because you don't completely scrap an entire roster and turn that team into the consensus #1 rated team in a three year time period without either both John and Pete both doing one hell of alot or one or the other completely dominating their field beyond question.

2 things: one, the Hawks haven't won a SB or been in one yet with this regime, and two, this IS the Seahawks after all (a.k.a. South Alaska). All of this will be changing within the next two or three years.

 

[jack_patera]

i'd put pete in top ten...closer to that nine or ten but definitely top ten...

 

[Clayfighter]

Is it possible some of his USC negative attention is coming back to haunt him in this ranking?

 

[RichNhansom]

It's beyond ridiculous to blanket say best or worst coach. The job entitles so many different area's of expertise you cannot categorize them all by saying he is the best and he is the worst. This in itself makes NFL.com a complete joke because they do it with nearly every poll, prediction and opinion. Rarely do you see anything on NFL.com that has any substance what so ever. It all pretty much reads like junior high kids explaining why their dad is tougher than your dad.

If they actually put a little effort into their breakdown you could possibly see some validation in it but just saying, I think he is the best is pretty poor analysis.