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Next year ...our division will most likely be the best division in the league . The Hawks will pull it together...AZ with Murray will improve...SF will be back ...and the Lambs will change the sheets . What's your pecking order prediction for next season 2020 :?:
 

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It's going to be brutal.

I think the West send 3 teams to the playoffs but I have no idea in which order.
 

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Nfc West has represented the NFC in the Superbowl 5 of the last 8 years and my guess is they will next year too. My only hesitation would be they beat themselves up to much in the Division and don't get a top seed.
 

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Neither the Rams or 49ers have much cap space.
Perhaps a trade might be negotiated.
Since I doubt they'd trade in division could happen, perhaps a diabolical 3 way could be arranged?
 

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xray":3h4g9vh4 said:
Next year ...our division will most likely be the best division in the league . The Hawks will pull it together...AZ with Murray will improve...SF will be back ...and the Lambs will change the sheets . What's your pecking order prediction for next season 2020 :?:

Everyone at 0 - 0 at the start of the season.

Since we have not had Free Agency yet, the draft, found out who we sign on tenders nor anyone else this is kind of like asking who your going to marry in the 6th grade.
 

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Can we get the Dolphins or Jaguars in our division? Every "joke" team in the division has gone to the Super Bowl after picking in the top 5.
 

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Rams fans will think Rams will win the division.
Niners fans think the Niners will win the division.
Seahawks fans will be split 50/50 on winning the division and being a wildcard.
Cardinals fans are in a tough spot. Might be worth a look to see which of our teams their fans are downgrading to get themselves in the wildcard conversation.

Must be nice to have Russell Wilson - after doubting Seattle the past few years, I doubt anyone will now and for good reason: while I think the Rams and Niners both have higher ceilings as constructed, the Seahawks are almost a playoff lock because of him while either LA or SF will probably miss the playoffs entirely next season.
 

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Combine, FA, the draft. Way too early. However just take a look at the individual teams and their cap numbers and draft picks and their own FA. SF and LA are not in good shape. Both have small cap numbers and LA has to pay their top CB plus Gurley and his gimp knees. Plus they mortgaged away a lot of draft picks.

SF is going to lose Armstead from that line and they also don't have much cap. They may also lose Sanders.

The Hawks are in decent shape on those first 2 but they have a LOT of free agents. Being a GM these days is quite a job and we shall see who does the best job at it.
 

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The Russ/PC combo never dips below 9 wins, even in seasons when seemingly everything goes wrong. So that is a nice 'bird in the hand' to enter any season with.

If you do not have an elite QB, which the Rams and 49ers do not, you really need to seize the moment when you catch lightning in a bottle for a season or two - which the 49ers and Rams almost pulled off. But this league has shown that long-term sustainable success is not attainable without an elite qb. And if a big part of how you've won is off the strength of your play calling and design for a non-elite qb, eventually defenses start to counter better.

Kyler is the one who is really going to come on and be a problem.
 

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Largent80":2dlyoiqz said:
Combine, FA, the draft. Way too early. However just take a look at the individual teams and their cap numbers and draft picks and their own FA. SF and LA are not in good shape. Both have small cap numbers and LA has to pay their top CB plus Gurley and his gimp knees. Plus they mortgaged away a lot of draft picks.

SF is going to lose Armstead from that line and they also don't have much cap. They may also lose Sanders.

The Hawks are in decent shape on those first 2 but they have a LOT of free agents. Being a GM these days is quite a job and we shall see who does the best job at it.


There's also a sizable talent gap between SF/LA and Seattle, so if anything the cap space might help them level that out. I think the Rams can create quite a bit of space with restructures, but we'll see.
 

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Ramfan128":1afsc4mf said:
Largent80":1afsc4mf said:
Combine, FA, the draft. Way too early. However just take a look at the individual teams and their cap numbers and draft picks and their own FA. SF and LA are not in good shape. Both have small cap numbers and LA has to pay their top CB plus Gurley and his gimp knees. Plus they mortgaged away a lot of draft picks.

SF is going to lose Armstead from that line and they also don't have much cap. They may also lose Sanders.

The Hawks are in decent shape on those first 2 but they have a LOT of free agents. Being a GM these days is quite a job and we shall see who does the best job at it.


There's also a sizable talent gap between SF/LA and Seattle, so if anything the cap space might help them level that out. I think the Rams can create quite a bit of space with restructures, but we'll see.

Explain that "talent gap".

Is it your QB?...who obviously is checkdown Charlie?
Is it SF's QB who is not even good enough to checkdown properly?
Is it, you paid so much money to Donald that now you lose Fowler?
Is it that SF had so many first round picks from sucking that it's time to Pay them and they can't?
 

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acer1240":2odnwpta said:
It's going to be brutal.

I think the West send 3 teams to the playoffs but I have no idea in which order.
I doubt it. There will be too much blood on the floor.
 

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KinesProf":2cre9arx said:
The Russ/PC combo never dips below 9 wins, even in seasons when seemingly everything goes wrong. So that is a nice 'bird in the hand' to enter any season with.

If you do not have an elite QB, which the Rams and 49ers do not, you really need to seize the moment when you catch lightning in a bottle for a season or two - which the 49ers and Rams almost pulled off. But this league has shown that long-term sustainable success is not attainable without an elite qb. And if a big part of how you've won is off the strength of your play calling and design for a non-elite qb, eventually defenses start to counter better.

Kyler is the one who is really going to come on and be a problem.
Possible but remember Rick Mirer was pretty damned good as a rookie and then struggled thereafter. Defensive coordinators adjust. I actually suspect you're right, but I'm pumping the brakes a tad on him too.
 

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Kyler Murray has proved exactly nothing.

Until he does so, AZ is not in the conversation.
 

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Largent80":2w35bpyv said:
Kyler Murray has proved exactly nothing.

Until he does so, AZ is not in the conversation.

He won offensive rookie of the year and they gave the Hawks a pretty thorough beatdown week 16.

That seems like slightly more than nothing.
 

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Murray proved he was better by seasons end than he was at the beginning. I expect to Cards ro focus on getting him some more protection and some new toys to play with.
Of the four teams in our division I think it is the Rams who are most adversely affected by their own FAs and Cap problems right now. SF's time in that playpen is coming up soon.

Not in our division or conference but I think this is the year for a new Mahomes contract in KC. It will be interesting to see how that effects their roster. They gave Frank a big hunk. WOuldn't surprise me to see them pony up a Wilson+ arrangement for Mahomes. Something has to give somewhere in that house, and maybe sooner than later.
 
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KinesProf":3e1aul81 said:
Largent80":3e1aul81 said:
Kyler Murray has proved exactly nothing.

Until he does so, AZ is not in the conversation.

He won offensive rookie of the year and they gave the Hawks a pretty thorough beatdown week 16.

That seems like slightly more than nothing.

Dismissing Murray like that ; indicates that homer logic is alive and well in here .
 

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HawkerD":12ojq4y5 said:
acer1240":12ojq4y5 said:
It's going to be brutal.

I think the West send 3 teams to the playoffs but I have no idea in which order.
I doubt it. There will be too much blood on the floor.

That's a good point and I thought the same thing after posting.

It seems all the heavyweights are in the west. I think the packers are smoke and mirrors and Brees is another year older.

Maybe Atlanta will emerge but other than that I'm not seeing much at this point.
 
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