McCarthy?

SPOHAWK · Jan 24, 2025

Listening to Brian Neimhauser's podcast with Sando...he stated that If McCarthy doesn't get the Saints job...JS is close to McCarthy and might go after him as total OC? Your thoughts?

James in PA · Jan 24, 2025

I brought this up in the Slowik thread. It would be nice, but seems unlikely.

Spin Doctor · Jan 24, 2025

Not likely going to happen. Mike McCarthy has proven that he is willing to wait things out. While having experience is nice, having a SuperBowl winning HC that was relatively successful recently calling your plays potentially opens up a whole can of worms for MacDonald who is still trying to establish himself.

toffee · Jan 24, 2025

Spin Doctor said:
Not likely going to happen. Mike McCarthy has proven that he is willing to wait things out. While having experience is nice, having a SuperBowl winning HC that was relatively successful recently calling your plays potentially opens up a whole can of worms for MacDonald who is still trying to establish himself.

Nailed it! We want youth, we like them young, experience are over rated. Only Brady and Mark Davis care about experience.

chris98251 · Jan 24, 2025

Mac wants a certain kind of guy, this isn't a decision solely by JS, Grubb was that guy.

Spin Doctor · Jan 24, 2025

chris98251 said:
Mac wants a certain kind of guy, this isn't a decision solely by JS, Grubb was that guy.

Yeah, based who we've brought in and our previous hire (Grubb) he definitely seems to have a certain MO. He really seems to favor the guys with little to no coaching experience at their respective positions. What is even more perplexing is that all of these guys come from systems that are known for their passing prowess. All of these guys are very young too.

It seems like we're having a hard time nailing people down. Klint is probably going to go for the Houston job and the Lions candidate pulled out. For whatever reason this doesn't seem like a popular destination right now.

SPOHAWK · Jan 24, 2025

Slovik?

James in PA · Jan 24, 2025

Spin Doctor said:
Yeah, based who we've brought in and our previous hire (Grubb) he definitely seems to have a certain MO. He really seems to favor the guys with little to no coaching experience at their respective positions. What is even more perplexing is that all of these guys come from systems that are known for their passing prowess. All of these guys are very young too.

It seems like we're having a hard time nailing people down. Klint is probably going to go for the Houston job and the Lions candidate pulled out. For whatever reason this doesn't seem like a popular destination right now.

All of these candidates have aspirations of becoming a head coach someday. I'm sure they look at Seattle with a bridge quarterback and a GM who doesn't know how to construct an offensive line and don't see themselves being in a position to have a lot of success.

Spin Doctor · Jan 24, 2025

SPOHAWK said:
Slovik?

Based on what I saw in Houston this year, please no.

toffee · Jan 24, 2025

James in PA said:
All of these candidates have aspirations of becoming a head coach someday. I'm sure they look at Seattle with a bridge quarterback and a GM who doesn't know how to construct an offensive line and don't see themselves being in a position to have a lot of success.

But wouldn't the opportunity to coach under Mike Mcdonald enough?

Spin Doctor · Jan 24, 2025

toffee said:
But wouldn't the opportunity to coach under Mike Mcdonald enough?

That is likely the problem. We still are not sure what we have in MacDonald exactly. it was a mixed bag, a lot of good but also some bad. He definitely had a lot of growing pains, especially in the mid part of the season. His staff is also equally as inexperienced, which I think ultimately lead to many of our issues.

In this case, with the Lions O-Line coach he wasn't straight up offering OC to him. He stipulated that it had to come with an experienced passing game coordinator that would design the passing game and essentially be equal with him. Not exactly a great set up for someone looking to get out on their own.

Klint Kubiak is a hot name, I've heard he wants to stay closer to NO. I don't think he's going to end up here.

Slowik is a name I hope we stay away from. I've seen him both seasons and I'm not impressed. He has big Shane Waldron energy. Passing game coordinator for Shanahan, goes to team and has ups and downs, then mostly downs.

OneLofaTatupu · Jan 24, 2025

James in PA said:
I brought this up in the Slowik thread. It would be nice, but seems unlikely.

Yeah I concur. And I don’t know why but his name rattled in my head.

Wsumatt1982 · Jan 24, 2025

The more it goes on the more I picture Matt Nagy here. He has head coach experience. Andy Reid calls the plays in KC so it wouldn’t be a lateral move. Very balanced attack and may help lure Trey Smith to Seattle

Floridahawk79 · Jan 25, 2025

Matt Nagy is the OC for KC so wouldn't that be a lateral move? You'd have to add Assistant HC to the title. Not sure what would happen to Leslie Frazier then.

Jegpeg · Jan 25, 2025

Spin Doctor said:
Yeah, based who we've brought in and our previous hire (Grubb) he definitely seems to have a certain MO. He really seems to favor the guys with little to no coaching experience at their respective positions. What is even more perplexing is that all of these guys come from systems that are known for their passing prowess. All of these guys are very young too.

Has he learnt his lesson about hiring guys with little to no experience? The Grubb appointment did not go well.

Of the people being talked about as being in the running Kubiak, Brown and Leftwich all have NFL OC experience I wouldn't be surprised of one of them got the job.

toffee · Jan 25, 2025

Once hired as OC, Schneider will have like lunch everyday with McCarthy and inviting Macdonald maybe optional.

Spin Doctor · Jan 25, 2025

Jegpeg said:
Has he learnt his lesson about hiring guys with little to no experience? The Grubb appointment did not go well.

Of the people being talked about as being in the running Kubiak, Brown and Leftwich all have NFL OC experience I wouldn't be surprised of one of them got the job.

Something about those hires say to me that they will be the second or third tier choices by this organization if we do hire one of them. Kubiak is the only guy I recall hearing about lately and there is even rumors that he's looking to looking to stay in the NO area.

toffee · Jan 25, 2025

Floridahawk79 said:
Matt Nagy is the OC for KC so wouldn't that be a lateral move? You'd have to add Assistant HC to the title. Not sure what would happen to Leslie Frazier then.

Maybe Macdonald doesn't need a babysitter anymore?

Wsumatt1982 · Jan 25, 2025

Floridahawk79 said:
Matt Nagy is the OC for KC so wouldn't that be a lateral move? You'd have to add Assistant HC to the title. Not sure what would happen to Leslie Frazier then.

Not lateral because he doesn’t call plays in KC which he would here so the only way KC could block it is if they let him call plays in KC

Floridahawk79 · Jan 25, 2025

Wsumatt1982 said:
Not lateral because he doesn’t call plays in KC which he would here so the only way KC could block it is if they let him call plays in KC

Ok but how do they really know who calls plays and who doesn't. Thought they went just by title. Interesting.

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