PakAttack86
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Uncle Si":kfq2l7ch said:PakAttack86":kfq2l7ch said:peachesenregalia":kfq2l7ch said:PakAttack86":kfq2l7ch said:Let's look at some statistics shall we? I want to dissect the conclusion you're coming to when asserting that Green Bay has a terrible defense. Overall defense is ranked 15th in the league in terms of total yards allowed both passing and rushing, and since there are 32 teams in the league, correct me if I'm wrong, but this would put us around average. Not fantastic, not terrible, but average.
Let's move on to where defensive stats really shine in the playoffs; turnovers and defensive stops. Green Bay was ranked 9th in the NFL in sacks, where Seattle was only ranked 20th. Check mark Green Bay. Green Bay was ranked 7th in interceptions, Seattle was ranked 18th. Check mark Green Bay. Green Bay was ranked FIRST in turnover differential with a +14 margin, while Seattle was ranked 4th with a +9. Check mark Green Bay.
People forget that it's the opportunistic defense with the turnovers that wins championships, not the defense that allows the least amount of yards. So I'll go ahead and wait for your retort and explanation on these facts. Defenses that lead the league in turnovers are certainly not terrible.
Yeah, you're right. that stat really worked well for Chicago all those years, eh?
Nice try, sweetie, but your weak-ass argument using selective stats holds no water. Looking at actual meaningful stats has you Packers as the #16 defense by DVOA, and even lower than that by weighted DVOA. Middle of the road, shitty, soft-ass defense. Seattle's is a WHOPPING 17.5% ahead of GB's by weighted DVOA. that's not even in the same area code.
XOXO,
Ted Turner's teeth.
It's absolutely precious that you are that naive to suggest the most heavily analyzed and talked about defensive stat, turnover differential, to you has no serviceable meaning in the NFL. You also substantially lose all credibility by comparing Green Bay who has had tremendous success over the last decade versus a downright terrible Chicago Bears team who has had nothing to show for their defensive talent in the same time frame with the exception of one super bowl appearance that they lost in.
The fact of the matter is everyone except for you (delusions of grandeur are all too common with fan bases and teams who have found recent success) knows that this Green Bay team is not going to roll over for Seattle. It's going to be a close game, with a margin of victory no greater than 3 points for whoever comes out as the winner. I'll eagerly be looking forward to you whining about a bad call or two that "made this game closer than it should have been", and serve you a plate of crow if Green Bay does in fact pull off the upset.
turnover differential is the most heavily analyzed and talked about defensive stat? prove that..
you were giving statistical analysis above. you're ignoring it, as other Pack fans have in numerous other threads. this isnt a "lets talk stats, but only these stats" thread. there are some bright football people on here, and one just provided a refute of your post.
and if "everyone" knew that Green Bay is not going to roll over to Seattle, then the line wouldnt be a touchdown.
i believe the game will be close. but quit whimpering because some fans statistically see the game as a mismatch.
That same "bright" fan that you're touting, is the same fan that has already made it clear that Seattle is going to win by an extremely wide margin. While that is his opinion and he has that right, I think that if he had any "bright" football knowledge spots then he'd probably never had created such a silly thought to begin with.
Also, no offense, but tune in to any ESPN or NFL Network coverage preview of the games, and I dare you to highlight a moment where any analyst is covering DVOA stats. You know why you won't find it? Because they're talking about turnover differentials, peanalties/discipline, and yardage stat lines.