JS/PC w/out any WR/TE/LB in 1st round.

[HawaiiHawkFan]

Seems like the JS philosophy of drafting so far is primarily O-line & D-line in the first round except when we had that second 1st round pick we used on Earl Thomas. Looks like they are pretty good at finding everything else we need in later rounds.

 

[joeshaney]

So far..... 3 drafts only.
Golden Tate was a 2nd round pick.
They seem to take LBs fairly early with Wagner there 2nd pick last year and KJ there 3rd pick the year before.

Either way....Too small of sample size.
It does seem, however, that the team absolutely drafts for need.

 

[QuahHawk]

I think DE is our priority in FA and we draft DT/LB/WR/TE with out first 4 picks. Hopefully we can either get a 3rd for Flynn or use him to bump our 3rd to an early 2nd.

 

[Sarlacc83]

So far..... 3 drafts only.
Golden Tate was a 2nd round pick.
They seem to take LBs fairly early with Wagner there 2nd pick last year and KJ there 3rd pick the year before.

Either way....Too small of sample size.
It does seem, however, that the team absolutely drafts for need.

KJ Wright was a 4th rounder.

However, I agree that the sample size is too small. Also, PC and JS have talked about a 4 year plan, and the 4th year involves drafting 'playmakers'. So they were setting the trenches before (and probably will again this year), though it's extremely unlikely they draft any O-line early. I'm of the belief the O-line is pretty well set with the right talent and needs time to gel.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

IMO John and Pete definitely shy away from the "always take the best player on the board" conventional wisdom of NFL draft protocol.

They have a plan for every single position, then they look to draft players to fill those roles. Look no further than last year with Irvin, most boards had Irvin late 1st or early 2nd, and we took him high because he filled a role that Pete and John wanted, speed edge rusher.

Therefore, the track record is loud and clear.......we will draft in positions of need if there's a player on the board that fills the role Pete and John are looking for. If not, then we'll trade up or down.

 

[HawkFan72]

If they had taken a WR/TE/LB in the draft the last three years, then this thread would be about how they never draft OL/S/DE in the 1st Round. The right players matched their positions of need at the time.

 

[onanygivensunday]

Hopefully we can either get a 3rd for Flynn or use him to bump our 3rd to an early 2nd.

I played with the draft position/value chart a while back and looked at a number of Flynn draft day trade possibilities... and going from memory, if you put a low 3rd or high 4th round value on Flynn, the Hawks would be swapping 3rd round picks with either KC or Jacksonville.

Therefore, your suggestion that "(we) use him to bump our 3rd to an early 2nd" is a bit unrealistic. Flynn's not worth that much.

An I also looked at a potential draft day trade of Flynn to the Jets... and to get comparable (low 3rd/high 4th round) value for Flynn, the Jets would have to swap their 2nd round pick with the Hawks.

 

[joeshaney]

So far..... 3 drafts only.
Golden Tate was a 2nd round pick.
They seem to take LBs fairly early with Wagner there 2nd pick last year and KJ there 3rd pick the year before.

Either way....Too small of sample size.
It does seem, however, that the team absolutely drafts for need.

KJ Wright was a 4th rounder.

However, I agree that the sample size is too small.Also, PC and JS have talked about a 4 year plan, and the 4th year involves drafting 'playmakers'. So they were setting the trenches before (and probably will again this year), though it's extremely unlikely they draft any O-line early. I'm of the belief the O-line is pretty well set with the right talent and needs time to gel.

Yes, as I mentioned kj was our 3rd pick in his respective draft; taken in the 4th round.

 

[garydrake425]

All we can do is hope, discuss and wait and see. It'd be nice to see us go BPA based off need and not just fill are biggest need and hope for the best.

 

[loafoftatupu]

I can see them drafting OL in the earlier rounds every year, at least until they have total depth and domination. They will keep looking there because PC is all about power football and I like it.

Even the later round Sweezy was playing and even starting in games. At this point I don't care what round they draft players in, especially for the next two years. Between the 2 they must have a long list of prospects. PC can go after those guys he was scouting at USC that he liked because they are now coming out of College and he doesn't have to convince them to sign or give scholarships.

Baldwin? Undrafted?
Sherm? In the 5th?!?!?

He snagged Browner like candy after seeing him at OSU and probably wanted to recruit him. Even Turbin.. That guy could end up being a NASTY back as Lynch ages. They have this draft thing down and it shows.

 

[sc85sis]

Keep in mind that they've been rebuilding the team the last three years and have pretty much HAD to draft for need. I think they'll look to take care of pass rush, etc., but they'll also feel more free to take BPA than we've previously seen.

 

[daveman918]

Wonder how far down Robert Woods will go in the draft. He looked pretty good in his combine appearance. That may be a good WR pick for us.

 

[chris98251]

Well with both Johns and Petes history I think in GB they built the line on both sides of the ball, at USC Pete built his line. Two reasons, they are where everything starts and how all the skill positions succeed. They typically have a longer career, skill positions can be had in a variety of ways and you can adapt an offense to fit the abilitys of those players easier when the foundation is laid.

 

[WestcoastSteve]

Wonder how far down Robert Woods will go in the draft. He looked pretty good in his combine appearance. That may be a good WR pick for us.

Was curious if there was a connection, Carroll signed Woods but that was the summer he left.

 

[HawKnPeppa]

IMO John and Pete definitely shy away from the "always take the best player on the board" conventional wisdom of NFL draft protocol.

They have a plan for every single position, then they look to draft players to fill those roles. Look no further than last year with Irvin, most boards had Irvin late 1st or early 2nd, and we took him high because he filled a role that Pete and John wanted, speed edge rusher.

Therefore, the track record is loud and clear.......we will draft in positions of need if there's a player on the board that fills the role Pete and John are looking for. If not, then we'll trade up or down.

I pretty much agree with this line of thinking; however Pete and JS DO draft the best player on the board FOR THEIR TEAM. They really know what they need and are good a scouting it.

 

[mikeak]

IMO John and Pete definitely shy away from the "always take the best player on the board" conventional wisdom of NFL draft protocol.

They have a plan for every single position, then they look to draft players to fill those roles. Look no further than last year with Irvin, most boards had Irvin late 1st or early 2nd, and we took him high because he filled a role that Pete and John wanted, speed edge rusher.

Therefore, the track record is loud and clear.......we will draft in positions of need if there's a player on the board that fills the role Pete and John are looking for. If not, then we'll trade up or down.

Agree 100% and I also think that the rookie salary scale helps this strategy. Is it worth it trading down if you may not get the player you want later and the financial difference could be as little as $50k-$100k? Sure maybe you gain a few spots elsewhere but there is no longer any real financial upside that makes up for the risk of loosing a guy.

It used to be that you could be looking at millions in difference.......

 

[AgentDib]

Over the last 1 years, the Redskins have drafted Robert Griffin #2 overall every single time. Which QB will they be drafting #2 overall this year, and how many draft picks will trade to move up to #2?

This is a silly thread based on a tiny sample size because team needs change every year. If Calvin Johnson was available at our #25 selection this year do you actually think we would pass on him? No NFL team truly drafts BPA, they all start with BPA and then adjust it based on team needs.

 

[Bobblehead]

Seems like the JS philosophy of drafting so far is primarily O-line & D-line in the first round except when we had that second 1st round pick we used on Earl Thomas. Looks like they are pretty good at finding everything else we need in later rounds.

It's not a philosophy..
It was a dire need.
If need is a philosophy, then you are correct.

 

[loafoftatupu]

I'm not sure about draft philosophy, but when he first got here, he made it clear that running the ball and defense were his highest priorities. To get that, he has drafted line players in every draft. Need? Yes.. But doing it consistently gives the team a chance in every game. The line has improved every year since he took over and I for one take solace in that. I would be surprised if in the first 4 rounds a OLine player isn't taken regardless of needs.