Is It Time To Sit Wilson?

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Its cleary obvious, That Russell Wilson when healthy is one of the best QB's in the game. Not the case here lately Wilson has a bum ankle & MCL sprain

Maybe its best for the team to let Wilson sit a week out to recover a little better or else I can see the Hawks finishing 8-7-1 real quick. Im a die hard seattle fan but losses like this sting
 

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SlickRick":db32lci1 said:
Its cleary obvious, That Russell Wilson when healthy is one of the best QB's in the game. Not the case here lately Wilson has a bum ankle & MCL sprain

Maybe its best for the team to let Wilson sit a week out to recover a little better or else I can see the Hawks finishing 8-7-1 real quick. Im a die hard seattle fan but losses like this sting
Nothing about Wilsons play says "You know, maybe it's time we start Boykin"... I get it Wilson is injured and the Hawks O is struggling, but Boykin isn't gonna get the job done behind this line, and if we want to make the play offs, you keep playing Wilson.
 

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Wilson was not the issue today, he is still faster and more mobile the Tom Brady, the running game and blocking is the problem, if anything Wilson needs to step up more and throw in lanes in this type of situation.
 

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Impossible to answer since we don't know what his health is.

Hypothetically, if he won't get better while playing, then sit him. If he can get better while playing, then let him play.
 

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EVERYTHING about Wilson's play says to sit him.

You honestly don't think Boykin could have scored more against the Cards?

How many TDs did Wilson get us today?

Wilson is playing worse than whoever is playing for the Browns.

You sit him not because the other guy is better, but because sitting him gets him healthy and a healthy Wilson is one of the better QBs in the league. But an injured Wilson is one of the worst QBs in the league.
 

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TwistedHusky":7v12c0ia said:
EVERYTHING about Wilson's play says to sit him.

You honestly don't think Boykin could have scored more against the Cards?

How many TDs did Wilson get us today?

Wilson is playing worse than whoever is playing for the Browns.

You sit him not because the other guy is better, but because sitting him gets him healthy and a healthy Wilson is one of the better QBs in the league. But an injured Wilson is one of the worst QBs in the league.

Russell Wilson isn't the problem. His mobility has been a concern but the play calling and line are far ahead of that imo.
 

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He is clearly not himself yet. He is still immobile and can't run for his life like he usually has to with the worst o line in history in front of him. This was the week they should have rested him, now they can't take the chance.
 

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knownone":36f273eq said:
SlickRick":36f273eq said:
Its cleary obvious, That Russell Wilson when healthy is one of the best QB's in the game. Not the case here lately Wilson has a bum ankle & MCL sprain

Maybe its best for the team to let Wilson sit a week out to recover a little better or else I can see the Hawks finishing 8-7-1 real quick. Im a die hard seattle fan but losses like this sting
Nothing about Wilsons play says "You know, maybe it's time we start Boykin"... I get it Wilson is injured and the Hawks O is struggling, but Boykin isn't gonna get the job done behind this line, and if we want to make the play offs, you keep playing Wilson.
At least Boykin can actually run . RW flat out can't and keep playing him behind this Oline and more injuries will come because he just can't escape he can't that's the simple fact here. So leaving a QB that can't protect himself behind that garbage Walmart discount Line is not it helping at all just look at how long out D has been on the field . Since he got hurt that's all you really need to know . The guy needs to get healthy or this will get worse .
 

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TwistedHusky":3tymv13k said:
EVERYTHING about Wilson's play says to sit him.

You honestly don't think Boykin could have scored more against the Cards?

How many TDs did Wilson get us today?

Wilson is playing worse than whoever is playing for the Browns.

You sit him not because the other guy is better, but because sitting him gets him healthy and a healthy Wilson is one of the better QBs in the league. But an injured Wilson is one of the worst QBs in the league.
Spot on
 
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TwistedHusky":2jsz6o1e said:
EVERYTHING about Wilson's play says to sit him.

You honestly don't think Boykin could have scored more against the Cards?

How many TDs did Wilson get us today?

Wilson is playing worse than whoever is playing for the Browns.

You sit him not because the other guy is better, but because sitting him gets him healthy and a healthy Wilson is one of the better QBs in the league. But an injured Wilson is one of the worst QBs in the league.

Bingo you hit the nail on the head, Healthy Wilson tears that defense to shreads, the offense revolves around wilson, If hes not clicking neither are they. Its time to sit him before it gets worst
 

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hawkfannj":2gpmn7vj said:
knownone":2gpmn7vj said:
SlickRick":2gpmn7vj said:
Its cleary obvious, That Russell Wilson when healthy is one of the best QB's in the game. Not the case here lately Wilson has a bum ankle & MCL sprain

Maybe its best for the team to let Wilson sit a week out to recover a little better or else I can see the Hawks finishing 8-7-1 real quick. Im a die hard seattle fan but losses like this sting
Nothing about Wilsons play says "You know, maybe it's time we start Boykin"... I get it Wilson is injured and the Hawks O is struggling, but Boykin isn't gonna get the job done behind this line, and if we want to make the play offs, you keep playing Wilson.
At least Boykin can actually run . RW flat out can't and keep playing him behind this Oline and more injuries will come because he just can't escape he can't that's the simple fact here. So leaving a QB that can't protect himself behind that garbage Walmart discount Line is not it helping at all just look at how long out D has been on the field . Since he got hurt that's all you really need to know . The guy needs to get healthy or this will get worse .
What have you seen in the NFL from Boykin that makes you think he can run? He's played what 2 possession? Do you think he can throw for 250 yards? and complete 65% of his passes? If so, why? What have you seen that makes you think this?

Sorry, the thought that benching Wilson will be a boon to the Hawks offense is ludicrous.
 

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R. Wilson
Passing CP/ATT YDS TD INT
22 / 34 253 0 1

Sure didn't have great Fantasy stats, but sure didn't really suck ass either.

Rushing ATT YDS TD AVG
C. Michael 10 40 1 4.0
C. Prosise 4 23 0 5.8
R. Wilson 3 11 0 3.7
J. Ryan 1 0 0 0.0


He needs to work on his rushing though, barely ahead of the yards Prosise has.

And that is where our problem was. Not Wilson.
 

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The problem with Wilson is he is still playing like he is 100%. Instead of sitting in the pocket he'll bail, and try to make defenders miss when he does not possess that ability at the moment. His arm strength, and accuracy is lacking, doesn't look like he is able to drive off of his injured leg, which is an issue. Wilson is also playing scared, and making baffling decisions that he usually doesn't make. I think it's worth trying out Boykin to give Wilson a chance to recuperate.
 

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knownone":3h1guhtz said:
hawkfannj":3h1guhtz said:
knownone":3h1guhtz said:
SlickRick":3h1guhtz said:
Its cleary obvious, That Russell Wilson when healthy is one of the best QB's in the game. Not the case here lately Wilson has a bum ankle & MCL sprain

Maybe its best for the team to let Wilson sit a week out to recover a little better or else I can see the Hawks finishing 8-7-1 real quick. Im a die hard seattle fan but losses like this sting
Nothing about Wilsons play says "You know, maybe it's time we start Boykin"... I get it Wilson is injured and the Hawks O is struggling, but Boykin isn't gonna get the job done behind this line, and if we want to make the play offs, you keep playing Wilson.
At least Boykin can actually run . RW flat out can't and keep playing him behind this Oline and more injuries will come because he just can't escape he can't that's the simple fact here. So leaving a QB that can't protect himself behind that garbage Walmart discount Line is not it helping at all just look at how long out D has been on the field . Since he got hurt that's all you really need to know . The guy needs to get healthy or this will get worse .
What have you seen in the NFL from Boykin that makes you think he can run? He's played what 2 possession? Do you think he can throw for 250 yards? and complete 65% of his passes? If so, why? What have you seen that makes you think this?

Sorry, the thought that benching Wilson will be a boon to the Hawks offense is ludicrous.
 

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Dude,

0 TDs is sucking *ss.

250 yds is journeyman #s. Most rookies throw for over 200 their first games, even on "bad" games.

0 TDs and 1 INT is gutter #s.

Not sure what you consider sucking, but since the purpose of the offense is to march up the field and score and the real intent is to score TDs - the inability to score TDs is a big problem when either the QB is broken or has some weird Ciara Curse on him.
 

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Maybe a month ago you could have had this argument. Not today. Even though his mobility is not what we have grown accustomed to, he is starting to regain some of it. Today was the first time in over a month that his ankles weren't taped. He actually had a bit more mobility as evidenced by the fact that he actually had some positive runs. He had 33 yards rushing coming into this game. Today he had 11. Vintage Russell? No, but an improvement none the less. Another piece of evidence that his mobility is returning was his decisions at times not to step up into the pocket, but rather retreat into his back peddling spin moves. Once caused him to be sacked. I think he would have been better off stepping up, but the past few weeks he never even attempted to run or escape pressure. Today he did.
 

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I see the argument for preventing further injury to Wilson and letting him fully heal. I do not see the argument that Boykin operates more effectively behind this OL at all.
 
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TwistedHusky":13q1876z said:
Dude,

0 TDs is sucking *ss.

250 yds is journeyman #s. Most rookies throw for over 200 their first games, even on "bad" games.

0 TDs and 1 INT is gutter #s.

Not sure what you consider sucking, but since the purpose of the offense is to march up the field and score and the real intent is to score TDs - the inability to score TDs is a big problem when either the QB is broken or has some weird Ciara Curse on him.
Something needs to happen soon before the hawks slip in the standings, felt like seattle should have won but couldnt close the show
 

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TwistedHusky":3fkcmj73 said:
EVERYTHING about Wilson's play says to sit him.

You honestly don't think Boykin could have scored more against the Cards?

How many TDs did Wilson get us today?

Wilson is playing worse than whoever is playing for the Browns.

You sit him not because the other guy is better, but because sitting him gets him healthy and a healthy Wilson is one of the better QBs in the league. But an injured Wilson is one of the worst QBs in the league.

I see maybe playing Boykin a game or 2 as a decent idea. It not only gives wilson some healing time, but brings back a true read option into our scheme.

I totally disagree with you about Him playing as bad as the bottom barrel guys. He is a pretty accurate passer, doesn't make stupid mistakes often. Our offenses main problem is poor run blocking, mediocre pass protection, injuries to lockett and rawls, and poor offensive gameplanning based on these deficiencies.

I put Russ in the top 3 QB's when healthy, and this version still in the top 15.
 
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