I'm so tired of bevell....

[Zebulon Dak]

Well it was fun. Good memories.

 

[hawkfan68]

I think Jim Bates would be a better offensive coach than Jeremy Bates.....been there done that. Jeremy is a never was.

Signed,
Norman Bates

 

[pehawk]

No one ever said Bates was better either. I pointed out he had a good passing attack with less personnel than the Hawks have presently. That 2010 team had no talent, I actually like this 2014 teams personnel offensively. He made some lemonade out of chicken shit.

It's okay to like Bates, I just did. Especially in a hypothetical thread that evolved into discussions of traits we like in offensive coordinators.

 

[Ozzy]

Zeb it seems like you're being contrarian just for the sake of it. Just because its the NFL doesn't mean guys hold positions they have no right holding or that guys lose their way just like any other profession. I'm 50/50 on Bevell personally but its not out of the realm of possibilities that he has done a poor job at crucial times this year. Why does that make anyone who questions him ridiculous?

 

[Zebulon Dak]

No I don't think that's what it is. I just like Bevell! He seems like a sweetheart.

 

[Ozzy]

He is easy on the eyes....

 

[hawkfan68]

No one ever said Bates was better either. I pointed out he had a good passing attack with less personnel than the Hawks have presently. That 2010 team had no talent, I actually like this 2014 teams personnel offensively. He made some lemonade out of chicken shit.

It's okay to like Bates, I just did. Especially in a hypothetical thread that evolved into discussions of traits we like in offensive coordinators.

Hey Pe...Sorry man. I re-read my post and I didn't mean it to be as snarky as it turned out. I was just voicing my opinion and wasn't attacking your like for Bates. We all have those coaches we would like. I agree with you about Kubiak. I think he'd be a great OC here. Scott Linehan and Rob Chudzinski would be a couple of others. Chud did wonders for Cam Newton in 2011 and turned around the Panther offense. Dennis Erickson may even be an option. He is currently an assistant at University of Utah. His offensive philosophy is what Scott Linehan uses. He is the master of the one-back spread offense. Seahawks like to use this a lot (http://smartfootball.com/offense/the-original-one-back-spread-offense#sthash.iUxIg4fY.dpbs)

 

[Zebulon Dak]

Erickson! Haha that would be hilarious and awesome.

 

[pehawk]

No one ever said Bates was better either. I pointed out he had a good passing attack with less personnel than the Hawks have presently. That 2010 team had no talent, I actually like this 2014 teams personnel offensively. He made some lemonade out of chicken shit.

It's okay to like Bates, I just did. Especially in a hypothetical thread that evolved into discussions of traits we like in offensive coordinators.

Hey Pe...Sorry man. I re-read my post and I didn't mean it to be as snarky as it turned out. I was just voicing my opinion and wasn't attacking your like for Bates. We all have those coaches we would like. I agree with you about Kubiak. I think he'd be a great OC here. Scott Linehan and Rob Chudzinski would be a couple of others. Chud did wonders for Cam Newton in 2011 and turned around the Panther offense. Dennis Erickson may even be an option. He is currently an assistant at University of Utah. His offensive philosophy is what Scott Linehan uses. He is the master of the one-back spread offense. Seahawks like to use this a lot (http://smartfootball.com/offense/the-original-one-back-spread-offense#sthash.iUxIg4fY.dpbs)

I'm offended you feel the need to apologize, ever. I'm a loudmouthed douchebag, nothing to be taken seriously. Especially that seriously.

I know liking Bates was against the grain, but I loved his passing attacks.

 

[CANHawk]

Bevell or Greg Knapp?

 

[Zebulon Dak]

Knapp for sure.

 

[seahawks08]

This is Pete's system in place, not Bevells, he is limited to what Pete's philosophy is. According to Pete, we should be able to win with any QB as long as we secure the ball. So Russel is not willing to make the risky throws and when you don't throw, the receivers never get into a rhythm and connect with the QB. The rookie WRs are not used to scrambling QBs and don't come back to the ball when the QB scrambles, they continue to run the route. This is seriously the complexity of the situation. We need to have a good QB coach who coaches up Russel and help him connect with the ball. If he is playing injured and his throws are off, we need to play Jackson for a while until RW heals up. We can't rely on RW to keep running and running to win games, it takes a toll on your system and no matter how much you prepare, fatigue takes a toll on your system. The throws that seemed so easy to him is now seeming really hard, the fake and deep throws were so beautiful to watch. He is such a great kid, he just needs a little something that will bring him back on in a rhythm. I wish we need that confidence booster kind of a game for both the fans and the teams. I hope the Clink is on fire this sunday, the fans the team and everyone, playing that game that changes this season to win it all! GO Hawks!

 

[Foghawk]

Bring back the Knappkin Offense!

 

[HawKnPeppa]

He is easy on the eyes....

Well it can't be his face...OMG, y'all are disturbing me. [emoji102]

 

[HawKnPeppa]

This is Pete's system in place, not Bevells, he is limited to what Pete's philosophy is. According to Pete, we should be able to win with any QB as long as we secure the ball. So Russel is not willing to make the risky throws and when you don't throw, the receivers never get into a rhythm and connect with the QB. The rookie WRs are not used to scrambling QBs and don't come back to the ball when the QB scrambles, they continue to run the route. This is seriously the complexity of the situation. We need to have a good QB coach who coaches up Russel and help him connect with the ball. If he is playing injured and his throws are off, we need to play Jackson for a while until RW heals up. We can't rely on RW to keep running and running to win games, it takes a toll on your system and no matter how much you prepare, fatigue takes a toll on your system. The throws that seemed so easy to him is now seeming really hard, the fake and deep throws were so beautiful to watch. He is such a great kid, he just needs a little something that will bring him back on in a rhythm. I wish we need that confidence booster kind of a game for both the fans and the teams. I hope the Clink is on fire this sunday, the fans the team and everyone, playing that game that changes this season to win it all! GO Hawks!

I've often thought the same thing. Pete's overall philisopy is not QB friendly. And white knucking the ball unecessarily inhibits a QB that has proven himself very efficient to begin with. If not for Wilson making plays despite incredible odds last season, I doubt we would have sniffed the playoffs.

 

[Zebulon Dak]

TJ? TJ? TJ?

Doth mine eyes deceive me??

 

[Scottemojo]

No I don't think that's what it is. I just like Bevell! He seems like a sweetheart.

tj? tj? tj?

haha. I didn't read the last page of this thread when I posted that. you beat me to it and used question marks.

 

[firebee]

This is Pete's system in place, not Bevells, he is limited to what Pete's philosophy is. According to Pete, we should be able to win with any QB as long as we secure the ball. So Russel is not willing to make the risky throws and when you don't throw, the receivers never get into a rhythm and connect with the QB. The rookie WRs are not used to scrambling QBs and don't come back to the ball when the QB scrambles, they continue to run the route. This is seriously the complexity of the situation. We need to have a good QB coach who coaches up Russel and help him connect with the ball. If he is playing injured and his throws are off, we need to play Jackson for a while until RW heals up. We can't rely on RW to keep running and running to win games, it takes a toll on your system and no matter how much you prepare, fatigue takes a toll on your system. The throws that seemed so easy to him is now seeming really hard, the fake and deep throws were so beautiful to watch. He is such a great kid, he just needs a little something that will bring him back on in a rhythm. I wish we need that confidence booster kind of a game for both the fans and the teams. I hope the Clink is on fire this sunday, the fans the team and everyone, playing that game that changes this season to win it all! GO Hawks!

I've often thought the same thing. Pete's overall philisopy is not QB friendly. And white knucking the ball unecessarily inhibits a QB that has proven himself very efficient to begin with. If not for Wilson making plays despite incredible odds last season, I doubt we would have sniffed the playoffs.

The flipside of this is... Every QB Bevell has touched has systematically regressed... Jackson, Favre and now Wilson. That's a fact. You can look at the QBs he coached in Minnesota and here. They've all systematically gotten worse under his guidance. We can try and talk about how Carroll's system isn't QB friendly, but I think Mark Sanchez, Matt Leinart and Carson Palmer would disagree. He made those guys look like the next coming of Joe Montana, so it's kind of hard to say that his system isn't QB friendly. I'd say his system isn't QB friendly when he has an idiot calling the plays. The absolute biggest problem I see with our offense is that Bevell has gotten away from the play action and our offensive system is heavily reliant on establishing the run and using the play-action to take shots downfield. This is why his empty sets and constant screens piss me off so much. They totally deviate from the offensive system this offense is built for.

 

[DavidSeven]

Actually, Favre had the best season of his career, by far, at age 40 under Bevell. He played through a shoulder injury during his final season and officially retired due to concussion concerns. Wilson has consistently gotten better until this rough patch he's hit this season. During the preseason, however, he looked like the best pocket passer in the NFL. Ask most outsiders, and they'd tell you the development of Wilson is the primary reason Bevell has HC buzz.

Anyway, you can credit for the above to anyone you like. Maybe that was all Childress and Carl Smith, I dunno. But to claim QBs regress once they work with him is factually inaccurate. Favre struggled with the Jets and in his final years with the Packers; looked like an MVP with the Vikings.

 

[Zebulon Dak]

Bevell is Einhorn