Popeyejones":91fqyob2 said:
kobebryant":91fqyob2 said:
I can't imagine anyone is rooting against him
IMO it's a waste of time to even bother rooting for him or against him. People can be happy for him, I guess.
He's 34 years old, 5'10" and 195 pounds. Signing him was a PR stunt.
I'm totally fine with that, but beyond not hurting himself if he's every allowed in the field during camp or pre-season, there's nothing to really root "for" IMO.
Yes, people should be happy for him. That's a good comment. But, then you essentially give him the same treatment RW got by so many (and still does, believe it or not) that he's "too short." Not at all suggesting that Boyer is the talent of Wilson. But, to reduce Boyer to just a mere PR stunt puts an unnecessary negative spin on it. That's fairly insulting to the Seahawks organization and I take umbrage.
(Was that Seinfeld or Raymond?)
Anyway, this topic is worthwhile.
Sure, there's a plus in the PR department. That's only one way to look at it and if you only take that view - it really doesn't matter. But, you're missing what other teams are missing in trying to measure up to the Seahawks. The Seahawks way involves bringing in players that can contribute to the whole whether they are going to stick or not. Didn't Bill Walsh (along with consultant Dr. Harry Edwards) sort of lead the way with all that back in the glory days of the Niners? I think it was a revolutionary approach back then that influenced Pete Carroll's philosophy. There's more to building and maintaining a championship culture than simply thinking it's ONLY about assembling the best talent of 90-players a team can find going into camp.
From Bill Walsh (a great believer that a players mentality was key to their success):
1. Developing a Successful Team Starts with Developing a Successful Culture
(excerpts)
Creating, communicating, implementing, and sustaining the right team culture is the key catalyst to lasting success. Walsh said, "The culture precedes positive results. It doesn't get tacked on as an afterthought on your way to the victory stand. Champions behave like champions before they're champions: they have a winning standard of performance before they are winners."
Instilling the right culture almost always takes time. And inevitably there will be some who balk against your standards. But, you must have the courage to confront and even remove the dissenters from your program, even though they might be highly talented. Ultimately, you must believe that your successful culture will attract, support, and retain the right talent and people, which will help you prevail and succeed in the long run.
http://www.championshipcoachesnetwork.c ... ic/461.cfm
You could look at it as just one aging, undersized camp player. But, it's really much more than that. It's what separates teams like the Seahawks from those who can't figure it out. It's not hinging on Boyer, but he's brought in with consideration to the same criteria other players are measured.
He will get released at some point. But, the Seahawks (and Boyer) both aim to be better off for whatever time he spends with the club.