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[WmHBonney]

What we need are more blue-collar fans. These are the bread-and-butter die-hard fans that used to fill the stadium. Look at the Bills Mafia. Blue-collar all the way. Same goes for Detroit.

 

[Seahawker]

How quickly the mighty have fallen.

 

[oldhawkfan]

This franchise once upon a time had a 10 year waiting list for season tickets. That was well before XLVIII and the Pete Carroll era. What changed? Greed? Perhaps. Winning? Considering this team generally had a packed house and very few opposing fans before they ever won a Super Bowl, a spoiled, entitled fan base might have something to do with it. Maybe, just maybe winning changed the overall feel for much of the fanbase. Its way more fun to follow a winner than a perpetual rebuilder.

 

[pittpnthrs]

I was that for multiple decades. Ten years ago I would have watched the whole game last night (I turned it off at halftime). At this point I have better things to do with my time, money and emotional bandwidth than to blindly support what professional sports has become. For now I am still a fan. I don't think I would call myself diehard anymore though.

Same. When I was younger I invested way more time and energy. I would revolve my weekend around Seahawk games. It didn't matter if they were good or bad. Now, i'm just older and stuff in my life is more important to me.

Its not just the Seahawks mind you, its other stuff too.

 

[Maulbert]

This franchise once upon a time had a 10 year waiting list for season tickets. That was well before XLVIII and the Pete Carroll era. What changed? Greed? Perhaps. Winning? Considering this team generally had a packed house and very few opposing fans before they ever won a Super Bowl, a spoiled, entitled fan base might have something to do with it. Maybe, just maybe winning changed the overall feel for much of the fanbase. Its way more fun to follow a winner than a perpetual rebuilder.

The list still exists. What's happening is rich fair-weather assholes have the season tickets, and they just sell their seats for a markup when they don't want to go. It's actually profitable for them to keep the tickets and sell them. They're just seat landlords with their own fiefdom. There should be a rule you have to go to at least 5 games a year if you have season tickets, or you lose them next season.

 

[pittpnthrs]

This franchise once upon a time had a 10 year waiting list for season tickets. That was well before XLVIII and the Pete Carroll era. What changed? Greed? Perhaps. Winning? Considering this team generally had a packed house and very few opposing fans before they ever won a Super Bowl, a spoiled, entitled fan base might have something to do with it. Maybe, just maybe winning changed the overall feel for much of the fanbase. Its way more fun to follow a winner than a perpetual rebuilder.

I honestly believe society and culture has changed. People have access to everything right now at the touch of a button. More people are playing games on their phones and gaming consoles than playing sports. People are working more now and spending countless hours at the office due to the economy. People are growing up in an age where sports have been neutered in all different fashions except for the payouts to the athletes. Influencers and celebrities are more important to the youth than sports figures. Etc,,,. Bottom line, its more important to people to try and make a buck rather than to spend a buck.

 

[Chapow]

What we need are more blue-collar fans. These are the bread-and-butter die-hard fans that used to fill the stadium. Look at the Bills Mafia. Blue-collar all the way. Same goes for Detroit.

Pretty tough for a lot of blue-collar workers to afford to live in the Seattle area, much less spend hundreds of dollars per person to go to a game.

FYI, the cost of living is much lower in Buffalo and Detroit.

 

[MyrtleHawk]

The list still exists. What's happening is rich fair-weather assholes have the season tickets, and they just sell their seats for a markup when they don't want to go. It's actually profitable for them to keep the tickets and sell them. They're just seat landlords with their own fiefdom. There should be a rule you have to go to at least 5 games a year if you have season tickets, or you lose them next season.

YES. Thank you! And the last part isn't even hyperbole, I definitely think that would stop these pricks from doing what they're doing. The Hawks really need to implement some kind of rule that allows actual fans to become season ticket holders and not rich greedy assholes selling their tickets to visiting fans. This keeps getting embarrassing having blue and green faded out by the visitor's team colors, it's disappointing to say the least.

 

[Floridahawk79]

I'd be curious to know if the local media is saying anything about last nights Packer attendance.

 

[HawkeyGoalie]

Might not always be the case - this screenshot is just an example my apologies to anyone here selling these seats, but when I see so many seats together for sale, I think of pos reseller companies selling these seats and not fans.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

What we need are more blue-collar fans. These are the bread-and-butter die-hard fans that used to fill the stadium. Look at the Bills Mafia. Blue-collar all the way. Same goes for Detroit.

Seahawks have gone more commercial approach with a lot of sponsors etc and they changed their entire business model and tickets are much more expensive than blue collar fans can afford for the most part.

You gotta shell out $500 average bucks or so for a pair of tickets around 100 or 200 level.

That’s insane price gouging.

And for the product yesterday on that field, it was hardly, money well spent….

I wouldn’t shell out that much money to see a terrible football product and be cold and also have to pay $40 bucks for a hotdog and beer. That’s just crazy.

 

[Chapow]

The list still exists. What's happening is rich fair-weather assholes have the season tickets, and they just sell their seats for a markup when they don't want to go. It's actually profitable for them to keep the tickets and sell them. They're just seat landlords with their own fiefdom. There should be a rule you have to go to at least 5 games a year if you have season tickets, or you lose them next season.

There are plenty of valid reasons why someone might have to miss more than 3 games in a season. I don't think someone should lose their season tickets if they're dealing with a serious illness (like cancer) or going through temporary financial hardship (like job loss). I also doubt that the Seahawks are going to want to deal with essentially taking season ticket holder attendance every game and then keeping track of how many games each and every season ticket holder missed and why they missed it.

 

[hawker84]

Same. When I was younger I invested way more time and energy. I would revolve my weekend around Seahawk games. It didn't matter if they were good or bad. Now, i'm just older and stuff in my life is more important to me.

Its not just the Seahawks mind you, its other stuff too.

I get all that, I too am not as engaged as I used to be, but I am still a die hard. Only difference is now adays, if they lose it doesn't ruin my week. If they have a losing season it doesn't ruin my summer. I still rock the gear, I still catch a game or two every year. Same with mariners and cougars. It just kills me to see the legacy we worked so hard to build is being crapped on by the new fanbase. But you're right, it's a blue collar mentality to have. That's not Seattle anymore.

 

[Rat]

There are plenty of valid reasons why someone might have to miss more than 3 games in a season. I don't think someone should lose their season tickets if they're dealing with a serious illness (like cancer) or going through temporary financial hardship (like job loss). I also doubt that the Seahawks are going to want to deal with essentially taking season ticket holder attendance every game and then keeping track of how many games each and every season ticket holder missed and why they missed it.

I cant imagine how many team employees would be sacrificed to save face the first time a story goes viral about how the Seahawks revoked someone's season tickets that had been in their family for 30 years, because they put four games on the resale market after they went into debt to pay for their kid's chemo treatments.

I agree with you. As long as the team is making money, nobody is going to want to deal with the headache of babysitting ticket holders. If people want this solved, they'll need to address the root of the problems that created this situation to begin with. And we know nobody will do that, so opposing fans buying tickets is likely here to stay for the forseeable future.

 

[Optimus25]

Seattle is a soft town. Facts.

trash liberal city that has followed suit with every other hellhole in the country.

A city that used to have a chip on its shoulder and filled with proud working people became an entitled pelosi land. On the field and off.

Basically tim walz and his fruity spirit fingers just went up against hulk hogan and Brian urlacher.

Sunday night was a blood bath that showed why Seattle is in the toilet on the field and off.

 

[raptorman]

This would never happen in GB, Philly, Chicago, Dallas, Pittsburgh. Just saying.

It is happening in Dallas every home game right now. And it has happened in Green Bay in the 70's. (I know this because I grew up 28 miles from Lameblew) And they still have a season ticket waiting list of about 120,000. In a city with a population of 108,000. Packer fans travel, and there are a lot of them all over the country. They are like cockroaches. Coming out when you least expect it. Hopefully, for your team, it will be a short-lived problem. A friend of mine has season tickets for the Vikings, and she said last year for the Packer game, about half the stadium was Packer fans. This too will pass.