"Holdout" news of Earl Thomas

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Coug_Hawk08":17n06i9n said:
ApnaHawk":17n06i9n said:
Seymour":17n06i9n said:
Coug_Hawk08":17n06i9n said:
Lol @ Earl saying he would not feel comfortable playing without a long term deal. Saying he’s gotta feed his family.

Sick.

You just try feeding a family of 3 on $47 million over 8 years!! :141847_bnono:

This is so ignorant. They are the bread and butter for their family's, which often includes extended families. Their time on the field is limited and they're diminishing their quality of life and risking permanent brain damage to bring their families out of the depths of poverty.

Not only that, one potential wrong hit and they can be paralyzed from the neck down. No amount of money can do justice to losing your life like that. So don't blame them or get upset that they want millions and loads of them.

He has a whole life ahead of him still. Shoot he's younger then I am and he's gotta make sure that money goes a long way till after he;s gone.

Stop acting like this is some noble thing he is doing, risking his life and brain for his extended family! Tons of people risk more and make way less, and really battle to provide for their families. Ridiculous. He plays 16 games a year and one years salary (already 10m) can comfortably support him and extended family for the rest of their lives. Players using ‘feed my family’ as a reason to hold out from work for even more money is absurd. Is a gross thing to say imo.
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How many years you figure it would take for most of us to make what Earl does in just one year? :roll:
 

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ApnaHawk":3i2g0ahu said:
Seymour":3i2g0ahu said:
Coug_Hawk08":3i2g0ahu said:
Lol @ Earl saying he would not feel comfortable playing without a long term deal. Saying he’s gotta feed his family.

Sick.

You just try feeding a family of 3 on $47 million over 8 years!! :141847_bnono:

This is so ignorant. They are the bread and butter for their family's, which often includes extended families. Their time on the field is limited and they're diminishing their quality of life and risking permanent brain damage to bring their families out of the depths of poverty.

Not only that, one potential wrong hit and they can be paralyzed from the neck down. No amount of money can do justice to losing your life like that. So don't blame them or get upset that they want millions and loads of them.

He has a whole life ahead of him still. Shoot he's younger then I am and he's gotta make sure that money goes a long way till after he;s gone.

47 plus million, and if he is dumb enough to foot his families bills then he deserves to lose it, outside of mom and dad and siblings grandparents, the rest are pretty much leeches and will be, The demise of many Pro players has been funding extended family members to live a lifestyle they have not earned or respect.

I am sure all my aunts uncles and cousins will shower me with gifts and money, oh wait, they hardly talk to anyone below their income level and hate coming to family gatherings now, why because of the family leeches that also show up there.

That 47 million doesn't even include endorsement money either. He may not have as much as a Wilson or Sherman, but I see him in more then a few commercials.
 

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Coug_Hawk08":12qok3fs said:
Lol @ Earl saying he would not feel comfortable playing without a long term deal. Saying he’s gotta feed his family.

Sick.
I completely agree. What a spoiled, greedy thing to say. I caught the opening segment of Danny, Dave, and Moore coming home this afternoon and they were talking about it. Wyman's take on it was perfect. If he's trying to get on the common man's level and seek sympathy, it's not gonna work. No common man can relate to this because the common man will never have to decide between making $10 million or $14 million, nor would the common man feel uncomfortable making $10 million. Athlete's should really stop using these tired falsities when it comes to new contracts. It's nothing more than a popularity contest.

Earl is making himself look bad.
 

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ApnaHawk":pjolu6yx said:
Seymour":pjolu6yx said:
Coug_Hawk08":pjolu6yx said:
Lol @ Earl saying he would not feel comfortable playing without a long term deal. Saying he’s gotta feed his family.

Sick.

You just try feeding a family of 3 on $47 million over 8 years!! :141847_bnono:

This is so ignorant. They are the bread and butter for their family's, which often includes extended families. Their time on the field is limited and they're diminishing their quality of life and risking permanent brain damage to bring their families out of the depths of poverty.

Not only that, one potential wrong hit and they can be paralyzed from the neck down. No amount of money can do justice to losing your life like that. So don't blame them or get upset that they want millions and loads of them.

He has a whole life ahead of him still. Shoot he's younger then I am and he's gotta make sure that money goes a long way till after he;s gone.

LMAO. That is far more ignorant.

One wrong turn or missed stop on the way to work and I'm dead. I think I'll ask for a $47 million raise tomorrow.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Please list all these paralyzed players in the last 5 years so I can send them a get well card.

BTW...Here is his "family" he is feeding as of 3 years and 20 something million $$ ago.

[youtube]jee8HQ_asSE[/youtube]
 

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Seymour":3dxx6tzt said:
ApnaHawk":3dxx6tzt said:
Seymour":3dxx6tzt said:
Coug_Hawk08":3dxx6tzt said:
Lol @ Earl saying he would not feel comfortable playing without a long term deal. Saying he’s gotta feed his family.

Sick.

You just try feeding a family of 3 on $47 million over 8 years!! :141847_bnono:

This is so ignorant. They are the bread and butter for their family's, which often includes extended families. Their time on the field is limited and they're diminishing their quality of life and risking permanent brain damage to bring their families out of the depths of poverty.

Not only that, one potential wrong hit and they can be paralyzed from the neck down. No amount of money can do justice to losing your life like that. So don't blame them or get upset that they want millions and loads of them.

He has a whole life ahead of him still. Shoot he's younger then I am and he's gotta make sure that money goes a long way till after he;s gone.

LMAO. That is far more ignorant.

One wrong turn or missed stop on the way to work and I'm dead. I think I'll ask for a $47 million raise tomorrow.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Please list all these paralyzed players in the last 5 years so I can send them a get well card.

BTW...Here is his "family" he is feeding as of 3 years and 20 something million $$ ago.

[youtube]jee8HQ_asSE[/youtube]

I'm with Seymour on this one.
 

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Funny thing is, I'm fine with Earl making his market value as he'd be dumb not to (or at least close). My problem is making it about survival and food. That is an insult to the the growing population of poor people of America, and anywhere else for that matter. Someone will pay him, I doubt Pete will at this point though.
 

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TwistedHusky":2sdd4p10 said:
Yes, WE like to trade 1st round picks for the players. But most FOs are not that stupid.
Seymour":2sdd4p10 said:
Yes, but I doubt we get a 1st. Listening to a cap expert today on this topic, I heard that a 2nd would be most likely the case for trading Earl. I would take that as well. Earl and his me me me attitude are part of the problem they are trying to shed still. We've only seen the coaches side of that, the players side is coming soon.
Sgt. Largent":2sdd4p10 said:
Doubt it, the Falcons have even less cap space then we do, and Allen has almost the same identical stats as Earl for 2017..........and he's cheaper.

If someone's going to break the bank for Earl, it's going to be a team with a lot of cap space that can take the risk with his injury proneness.
Sucks, but you guys are probably right.

If they can't get a 2nd, I'd probably still keep him for this season then franchise him for one maybe two seasons and let him go after that. He can hold out if he wants.
 

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Coug_Hawk08":322ku0df said:
Lol @ Earl saying he would not feel comfortable playing without a long term deal. Saying he’s gotta feed his family.

Sick.
I hate to break this to you but that is mentality of today’s modern athlete.
It was a stupid thing to say and shows how out of touch these guys are with reality.

Still wouldn’t trade him, unless you got a whopper deal (See Zach Martin w/long term deal, plus high draft picks in return for ET). Let him play out his contract, and franchise, franchise him again if you cannot get a deal done, and take a COMP pick 3 years down the road.
 

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Sox-n-Hawks":rvk5fhtv said:
Trade him to Dallas for Zeke

Please no. I'd rather keep Earl on a long-term deal. Zeke is an actual character risk compared to Earl and he's an RB. Way less valuable than an All-Pro safety even if Dallas was willing to part with him given he's on a rookie contract.
 

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vin.couve12":utykivqq said:
No. Earl is not a unicorn...or even a HoF player.


You just lost all credibility.

Earl is a first ballot HOFer, without question. His absence has been painfully obvious whenever it occurred. Everyone sees that, even outside of Seattle.

Don't know why you have an issue with him, but you lost all credibility when you start calling him average and this other BS.

That's just nonsense.
 

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HansGruber":1xtph2x1 said:
vin.couve12":1xtph2x1 said:
No. Earl is not a unicorn...or even a HoF player.


You just lost all credibility.

Earl is a first ballot HOFer, without question. His absence has been painfully obvious whenever it occurred. Everyone sees that, even outside of Seattle.

Don't know why you have an issue with him, but you lost all credibility when you start calling him average and this other BS.

That's just nonsense.


Early maybe a HOFer and his absence has been obvious, but, I"m not sure it's cause Earl is THAT good, or... We just never had anyone that was any good to fill in for him.

I mean really, there are plenty of teams out there that have survived without Earl, in fact, some of these teams have gone on and won Super Bowls without him.
 

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adeltaY":2nvkloed said:
Sox-n-Hawks":2nvkloed said:
Trade him to Dallas for Zeke

Please no. I'd rather keep Earl on a long-term deal. Zeke is an actual character risk compared to Earl and he's an RB. Way less valuable than an All-Pro safety even if Dallas was willing to part with him given he's on a rookie contract.
HELL TO THE NO!!!! Zeke will be out of the league in 2 years and probably in prison soon after that.
 

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The problem is letting is contract run out isn't possible, neither is tagging him in 2019, he will likely not step on the field this coming season without an extension so there are 3 options. Extend him, trade him for awful value or cut him.
 

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Still a non issue IMHO. As fans no matter what happens we will be able to pass off whatever happens in our benefit. As long as the decision is rational and fair I think we will be ok with what happens.

I have more confidence in our defensive signings, drafts and FA than our offensive side, with regards to our FO.
 

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if Thomas were simply one of the five or six best safeties in league, unloading him would be the prudent move. But we’re talking about the greatest safety of his generation with at least a couple of prime years left

Count me in on the wagon that would like Area29 to stay. The draft is mostly hit and miss, and with this organization, lately it's been a lot of miss. I understand we can't keep everyone, but to want to get rid of Thomas is just asinine to me.

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/sea ... -it-later/
 

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ApnaHawk":gg9sww84 said:
I meant the level of talent. Everyone who has played his side has been garbage. My point was that you can't just replace players as easily as people think. Certain talents just don't come around.

Yeah, basically this. The Hawks had what really is an all-time great draft run from 2010-2012. It's an all time great because if the team you root for has a SINGLE DRAFT RUN LIKE THAT IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE FRANCHISE you're really lucky. The 9ers had a draft run like that nearly 40 years ago and people still talk about it because it simply just doesn't happen that often.

If you wanna know what drafting typically results in, take all those guys from 2010-2012 who you want to move and replace them with guys of the talent level that the Hawks drafted from 2013-2017. That's basically what people are asking for.

If you wanna trade ET3 for a low first/high second pick, you're basically hoping that for ET3 you're gonna get Frank Clark and not end of with Christine Michael, Germaine Ifedi, or Malik McDowell. Would anyone even trade ET3 for Frank Clark straight up? I sure wouldn't. A first round draft pick has about a 50% chance of being a long-term starter. People really want to trade ET3 for a 50% chance at a starter? He's an All Pro year in and year out and is in his prime.
 

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Mistashoesta":jvjtxi63 said:
if Thomas were simply one of the five or six best safeties in league, unloading him would be the prudent move. But we’re talking about the greatest safety of his generation with at least a couple of prime years left

Count me in on the wagon that would like Area29 to stay. The draft is mostly hit and miss, and with this organization, lately it's been a lot of miss. I understand we can't keep everyone, but to want to get rid of Thomas is just asinine to me.

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/sea ... -it-later/

It's crazy to not want Earl to stay a Hawk. I think most would agree with that.

It's his contract- and some of the messages he is sending- that create the problem.

This is why I'm not a GM- I have no idea of how to make this end positively for the team...
 

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If you think Earl is literally talking about "Eating" for survival when he says he's got to eat for him and his family, you're wrong. I promise you, your middle class middle age definition of having to eat, and a bunch of millionaires and their younger age groups definition of having to eat are two totally different things.
 

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Mistashoesta":1xf5r66f said:
If you think Earl is literally talking about "Eating" for survival when he says he's got to eat for him and his family, you're wrong. I promise you, your middle class middle age definition of having to eat, and a bunch of millionaires and their younger age groups definition of having to eat are two totally different things.

He needs more cars?
 
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