Harvin or Reggie Bush?

[pehawk]

Scotte's all-22 analysis got me thinking.

Late last year and this offseason it became apparent that the offense needed a flanker/HB/waterbug type offensive weapon, to totally get Wilson to "Brees" levels. IMO, adding that type of player opens up passing lanes via the defense having to account for them in the flat or on wheel routes. In theory it makes the front 7 defend sideline to sideline, instead of straight ahead.

Early in the offseason, I wanted Reggie Bush for that role. He already played it in NO, and he'd be reasonably priced. At that time I had no idea Harvin would become available. Harvin is also perfect for that role, IMO.

Assuming that player type was a must-have AND knowing the cost for Harvin vs Reggie, would you reconsider which one? Would you choose Reggie over Percy now?

I don't know one way or another, really. But, Reggie could've done similar things and cost less, IMO.

 

[Missing_Clink]

Harvin and his giant contract and hip injury or Bush on much cheaper deal plus our first round pick and 3rd rounder next year? I'll take Reggie Bush and the draft picks in a heartbeat. If Bush stays healthy the rest of the year he is going to lead the NFL in yards from scrimmage.

Of course, if Harvin comes back and we win the superbowl this year, I will not care at all.

 

[pehawk]

Harvin and his giant contract and hip injury or Bush on much cheaper deal plus our first round pick and 3rd rounder next year? I'll take Reggie Bush and the draft picks in a heartbeat. If Bush stays healthy the rest of the year he is going to lead the NFL in yards from scrimmage.

Of course, if Harvin comes back and we win the superbowl this year, I will not care at all.

Yeah, there's a lot of ifs in this hypothetical. But, Reggie would probably stay healthier in this role.

What's awesome is some of our smarter football minds kept saying Bush was done this past offseason, or wouldn't even start in Detroit. Umm, no, he's Reggie Bush.

 

[Hawks46]

Harvin and his giant contract and hip injury or Bush on much cheaper deal plus our first round pick and 3rd rounder next year? I'll take Reggie Bush and the draft picks in a heartbeat. If Bush stays healthy the rest of the year he is going to lead the NFL in yards from scrimmage.

Of course, if Harvin comes back and we win the superbowl this year, I will not care at all.

Agreed, but more from a contract stand point. Harvin's contract is going to cause us to lose a few good players.

The only thing I like out of the Harvin deal is that it's easier to get Harvin and Lynch on the field together....a lot. Bush gets a ton of snaps at RB....sure you could go two RB sets and then motion Bush out wide, but it cuts down on the versatility factor a bit, unless you play Bush a ton at WR, which Harvin is better at.

 

[TwilightError]

I dont think Reggie would want to play for Carroll.. Anyway, I just cant wait to see Harvin suit up. He will raise hell.

 

[BullHawk33]

Harvin

 

[DavidSeven]

I think Harvin gives you more options downfield along with the similar things he can do to Bush in the flat and from the backfield and LOS. He's also proved that he can compliment a dominant feature RB (Peterson). Bush seemed to shrivel when he was asked to do that in New Orleans. He wants to be the feature back and has rarely dominated unless given that role.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Reggie Bush is VERY good.

Percy Harvin is elite. Assuming they stay equally healthy, (lol, both have somewhat of an injury history, but you know what I mean) Harvin is the choice that to me, at least, seems clear.

 

[pehawk]

Reggie Bush is VERY good.

Percy Harvin is elite. Assuming they stay equally healthy, (lol, both have somewhat of an injury history, but you know what I mean) Harvin is the choice that to me, at least, seems clear.

Even when you factor in cost for each? No debating Harvin adds bigger plays. But, compensation makes this intriguing, IMO.

 

[Scottemojo]

Reggie would die here. Detroit simply does not want to run the ball, and Reggie only has to do token between the tackles stuff there. I know, he had a nice off tackle TD run the other day, but like I said, token.

Seattle is way more caught up in letting their tough identity do the talking, which means Reggie would have to do some of the hard running. And since Reggie and Lynch wouldn't see the field together, it isn't a coordinator's dream like having Lynch on the field with Percy.

The money would be way less, though.

 

[Sarlacc83]

Harvin, if only for the age factor. Bush is 28 whereas Harvin is 25. So one's exiting his prime and the other's in it. That and Harvin adds versatility at the kick-return position that Bush doesn't offer.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Scotte brings up a good point. Bush also benefits from Megatron and the fact that defenses KNOW Stafford's going to target him a fair amount.

I have a hope that Kearse might be able to be a regular every down deep threat (every down for a receiver) for us at some point, but I don't have my hopes up much.

If you look at Bush's value from a money perspective, overall in the league, he's better value; but what team ever won a Super Bowl by going with a ton of value signings?

 

[pehawk]

Can we sign Kanye then? Anyone that's slept with Kim?

I don't envision Reggie running between the tackles. They drafted that dude in the 2nd. The big if would be if Reggie could be sold on the flanker role.

 

[Scottemojo]

Can we sign Kanye then? Anyone that's slept with Kim?

I don't envision Reggie running between the tackles. They drafted that dude in the 2nd. The big if would be if Reggie could be sold on the flanker role.

If we had a 2 back set, which I would love, I think Reggie would fit great then.

 

[C-Dub]

Reggie will get hurt again. It's only a matter of time. Plus like Sarlacc said, age is another factor. But 2 years of Bush would help with signing some guys long term. Interesting "what if."

 

[pehawk]

Now you're basically "sexting" me with the two back set talk. Why Michael hasn't seen time in that capacity, is beyond me. Before he jumped the shark, and wasn't lazy due Hutch, Holmgren was down right amazing with his multi-back sets. In KC, 1999, he pulled out a wishbone set with Watters and noise. It was awesome.

(Pehawk grabs tissues and a mayo-filled sock)

 

[Scottemojo]

Now you're basically "sexting" me with the two back set talk. Why Michael hasn't seen time in that capacity, is beyond me. Before he jumped the shark, and wasn't lazy due Hutch, Holmgren was down right amazing with his multi-back sets. In KC, 1999, he pulled out a wishbone set with Watters and noise. It was awesome.

(Pehawk grabs tissues and a mayo-filled sock)

Some more sexting. You want quick slants? Flare both backs in a two back set.

Reggie Bush wheel left, Lynch flare right, Rice slant/post, Miller runs a rub for Golden on a opposite slant/cross.

Want some more, big boy?

 

[sc85sis]

I dont think Reggie would want to play for Carroll.. Anyway, I just cant wait to see Harvin suit up. He will raise hell.

No idea what the status of Pete and Reggie's relationship is, but I don't want Reggie anywhere near Pete. That's a negative media circus I'd prefer to avoid.

 

[pehawk]

I dont think Reggie would want to play for Carroll.. Anyway, I just cant wait to see Harvin suit up. He will raise hell.

No idea what the status of Pete and Reggie's relationship is, but I don't want Reggie anywhere near Pete. That's a negative media circus I'd prefer to avoid.

That's valid.

 

[TeamoftheCentury]

We haven't seen Harvin play with this offense yet. Re-visit this thread after he's played a few games!

Initially when the trade went down, I was both excited and at the same time scratching my head. This team was already a contender. I thought they were positioned to add talent without making such a drastic move. It was a risk to invest so much in Harvin. Whether or not he is truly injury prone, he has missed significant time during his career. So, that in comparison to just adding a player like the talent of Reggie Bush, the $$$, plus the draft picks given up would seem to have potentially been significant improvements to an already elite team and enough to further contribute to a team in contention for a championship (and perhaps being better positioned for the future to keep players with the team, etc.)

But... Percy Harvin's talent may very well trump all that. Let's hope so.