Popeyejones
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Sgt. Largent":1wgm66yx said:What did the 49'ers think was going to happen building a stadium where it takes your season ticket holders that were used to taking a cab downtown in 20 minutes to now driving two hours?
LOLWHUT?!?!?!
(I think you're confusing Candlestick with AT&T Park, where the Giants play, and where the 9ers have never played).
Sgt. Largent":1wgm66yx said:I guarantee you what's going to happen is 50% of their season ticket holders are going to pick 3-4 games to go to, and broker the rest
Very unlikely. The new stadium and move to SC means that the season ticket base is much more driven by corporate accounts than it was at the Stick (or, it will be over time as natural attrition in carry over happens).
The upside for fans of having an end-user season ticket base is that sections of the stadium become communities; you're seeing the same people every game over the course of years. The downside is that a lot of these tickets end up on Stubhub and the like, as some end-user holders sell half their tickets to fund going to the other half the games, and others sell them off when the team is playing poorly, or when they can't go. That's how you end up with fans of other teams throughout the crowd.
The downside for fans of leaning more heavily to corporate account holders is you don't get as much of a sense of community in sections, as it can be different employees and their friends winning the raffles or signing out the tickets on any given week. The upside is that these tickets don't end up on Stubhub and the like, as at most places you'd get fired for signing out the tickets and then selling them, and the couple hundred bucks isn't worth anyone's job if their elligible to sign out corporate tickets to begin with. As a result you have less of a sense of community, but also less tickets available to traveling fans of other teams.
I think one other thing that a lot of Hawks fans don't realize is how Bay Area geography and fandom works. As shorthand for 9ers fandom you have the South Bay (where most 9ers fan reside), north of that is San Francisco (where the second most number of fans reside), and north of that you have Marin (9ers fans, but not very populated) and a generation of fans from the East Bay who became fans as kids when the Raiders were in L.A. (I'm in this group). What has changed with the move to the stadium is that rather than some fans traveling up from the South Bay to the games you now have some fans traveling down from San Francisco to the game. You can call it whatever you want, but the 9ers are actually closer to the majority of their fanbase than they were at Candlestick.
I suspect that because San Francisco is a globally recognized city many Hawks fans don't realize it's pretty small: the population is about 800K, compared to the 2 million people who live in the South Bay who are also all 9ers fans.
In any case, long story short, the 9ers stadium is oddly enough geographically closer to the majority of their fanbase, and the likely shift to more corporate season ticket accounts means it's going to be much harder for traveling fans for other teams (and people like myself who aren't season ticket holders) to get into games.
Sgt. Largent":1wgm66yx said:.........which will result in what you saw opening night, a lame crowd full of the other team's fans.
The fans were definitely a non-factor through the second half (probably a combo of a painfully slow game due to penalties and the 9ers imploding), but you're the only person who has ever claimed that the stadium was full of Bears fans. That's just silly.