Good writeup on our 'vanilla' offense. AND a poll!

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Honestly - I've been largely saying this (and some others have) for the past 8 weeks after the 3 week bonanza start to the season masked 10 different issues until the slide.

Winning fixed everything recently - but honestly these problems have NOT gone away IMO.


EDIT: and obviously I'm an idiot. Tried to do a poll, but it didn't take. Really, I'm in I.T.. For real.
 

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Great post. And i have been one who has been saying it for months. Also posted this which supports what your thread is saying:


This offense is great, scheme wise, in terms of getting receivers open.

It is horrible at establishing any semblance of advantage overall. We beat teams with the complexity of our route trees. Thats it. We do NOTHING to vary our attack, show different looks, establish a REAL PA game, run boots, nakeds, counters, designed outside runs, etc, etc, etc.

You can make the argument all you want that 'we tried that and it didnt work', but when you only commit to do a small handful of things occassionally, that doenst work.

We should be able to run more and better than we are. And our O-line is being placed in an unentenable position having to drop back over and over and over again, when the D knows exactly when and where our QB is goin to be in his drop.

To say nothing for the fact that our passing attack is predicated in part on ALLOWING free runners to create a schematic advantage in the pass game.

That would all be fine if we could do something other than simply pass from the gun.

It was good to see a few more runs last week and a but more under center play, but there needs to be a ton more. We are currently the 4th most pass reliant team in the league and none of the teams who pass as much as we do are successful. Zero.

Piling in Geno for making 'mistakes' a few times a game is entirely missing the point. We are operating a broken system better than it has any right to be operated. Its easy to see. And hopefully Mike seeing it will change things. He had the balls to make the necessary adjustements when the D wasnt working. Lets see if he has them now when it comes down to Grubb determing whether our season is a success or not.
 

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The offense looks confused to me. AND if this is the vanilla offense....The No Huddle-Befuddled. Run up to the line and change the play call 3 times allowing the defense time to settle in.
 
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The offense looks confused to me. AND if this is the vanilla offense....The No Huddle-Befuddled. Run up to the line and change the play call 3 times allowing the defense time to settle in.
And when we run high-tempo - we succeed. So by all means, stop doing that immediately :) </sarcasm>
 

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Nobody runs a predictable and simplistic offense on purpose. 90% of the time when a scheme is oatmeal like this, it's because the coaching staff is protecting guys on the line who can't do anything.

The calling got better in the second half (and Brock acknowledged this in a separate tweet), and so did the run game. Two guesses as to which lineman came out with an injury about that time, but you'll only need one.
 

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It is interesting, look at Grubb at UW and look at him here and he’s running two very different offenses.
 

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Nobody runs a predictable and simplistic offense on purpose. 90% of the time when a scheme is oatmeal like this, it's because the coaching staff is protecting guys on the line who can't do anything.

The calling got better in the second half (and Brock acknowledged this in a separate tweet), and so did the run game. Two guesses as to which lineman came out with an injury about that time, but you'll only need one.
I know that Haynes came in and I thought that heheld up fairly well. Who was the second lineman because I saw Tomlinson still in there.
 

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