Giants game a must win?

[paramedic586]

I don't think the Niners are going to be 12-4.

TB isn't an easy win in TB. Falcons game at home should be a W, but the last game against Arizona? Not a gimme, especially if it's for a playoff spot.

The Niners are a good team, they still haven't showed they are great. Gore isn't what he used to be and Kaepernick just isn't special.

To me, every game is a 'must win', this is the NFL, you only play 16 of them in the regular season. Practicing losing is never good.

You guys in here bash Kap relentlessly, probably more than some Niner fans do out here, but you forget, he is still young, Russell Wilson, Luck, Cam and RG3 has more experience behind center than Kap. Kap has potential has only begun to be tapped, sky is the limit for Kap, that is why Jaws said he can become one of the greatest QB's in history, he made that statement based upon his potential.

This coaching staff let Kap down this year, trying to make him a clone of Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, fearing that he might get hurt. Having said that Kap lead the Niners to the super bowl with only 8 games experience, the only other QB to do that was Jeff Hostetler. That is why Kap gets so many endorsements, plus he has Swag, Style and charisma. Russell Wilson, as good as he is, still have yet to lead his team to the Superbowl, he has yet to accomplish what Kap has already done with less starts.

Yes, but unlike the other four, Kaep had an opportunity to sit and learn for 1.5 years before being kicked out of the nest, plus he inherited a team that was 14-2 and a missed FG from going to the SB in the previous season. Cam, Wilson, RG3, and Andrew Luck all inherited losing teams and were forced to start from the get go and learn on the job.

Kaepernick is not in the same class as the 4 you mentioned. He's an average quarterback at best and not much, if any, of an upgrade over Alex Smith.

If your calling kapernick an average qb then what does that say about Wilson. They are very close statistically this year. Look and all qb stats and it shows that.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Klapperdink isn't near the QB that RW is.

 

[Seahwkgal]

Every game is a must win. :th2thumbs:

 

[SoulfishHawk]

This flat out IS a must win. Gotta' take care of business, and come Dec. 22nd, we're playing for a division title and the #1 seed, AT HOME.

 

[AbsolutNET]

There will be no 49er conversation in this thread, gentlemen...

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Say it isn't so, can 9 seconds go by without talking about them? Tick....tick....tick....

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Must win? In the words of the great Inigo Montoya........."I do not think that word means what you think it means."

 

[BreesIsOverrated]

No it definitely isn't.

 

[ChiefHawk]

Obviously we need two more wins, and I think I want this to be one of them the most.

It is a dress rehearsal for the Superbowl - East Coast game, same stadium...etc.

 

[loafoftatupu]

I don't think the Niners are going to be 12-4.

TB isn't an easy win in TB. Falcons game at home should be a W, but the last game against Arizona? Not a gimme, especially if it's for a playoff spot.

The Niners are a good team, they still haven't showed they are great. Gore isn't what he used to be and Kaepernick just isn't special.

To me, every game is a 'must win', this is the NFL, you only play 16 of them in the regular season. Practicing losing is never good.

You guys in here bash Kap relentlessly, probably more than some Niner fans do out here, but you forget, he is still young, Russell Wilson, Luck, Cam and RG3 has more experience behind center than Kap. Kap has potential has only begun to be tapped, sky is the limit for Kap, that is why Jaws said he can become one of the greatest QB's in history, he made that statement based upon his potential.

This coaching staff let Kap down this year, trying to make him a clone of Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, fearing that he might get hurt. Having said that Kap lead the Niners to the super bowl with only 8 games experience, the only other QB to do that was Jeff Hostetler. That is why Kap gets so many endorsements, plus he has Swag, Style and charisma. Russell Wilson, as good as he is, still have yet to lead his team to the Superbowl, he has yet to accomplish what Kap has already done with less starts.

Yes, but unlike the other four, Kaep had an opportunity to sit and learn for 1.5 years before being kicked out of the nest, plus he inherited a team that was 14-2 and a missed FG from going to the SB in the previous season. Cam, Wilson, RG3, and Andrew Luck all inherited losing teams and were forced to start from the get go and learn on the job.

Kaepernick is not in the same class as the 4 you mentioned. He's an average quarterback at best and not much, if any, of an upgrade over Alex Smith.

If your calling kapernick an average qb then what does that say about Wilson. They are very close statistically this year. Look and all qb stats and it shows that.

Stats? Kaeperstank isn't balling like Wilson. No way. You haven't heard anyone critical of Wilson's game, because it is consistent and productive. Kaep has been up and down all year. I'm not saying he is bad, in fact I have stuck up for him all year.

 

[General Manager]

Yes, every game is a "MUST" win till we clinch homefield advantage.

I agree with this.

 

[HansGruber]

Is it? Really?

Serious question? Yeah. Of course it is. We play our last two games against division rivals who would love nothing more than to kill our shot at the #1 seed. We NEED this win.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Give me a break. When you've already got a guaranteed spot in the playoffs, no regular season game is a must-win game. We WANT more wins for home field advantage and such, but we've got our ticket to the postseason punched no matter what.

 

[HansGruber]

I don't think the Niners are going to be 12-4.

TB isn't an easy win in TB. Falcons game at home should be a W, but the last game against Arizona? Not a gimme, especially if it's for a playoff spot.

The Niners are a good team, they still haven't showed they are great. Gore isn't what he used to be and Kaepernick just isn't special.

To me, every game is a 'must win', this is the NFL, you only play 16 of them in the regular season. Practicing losing is never good.

You guys in here bash Kap relentlessly, probably more than some Niner fans do out here, but you forget, he is still young, Russell Wilson, Luck, Cam and RG3 has more experience behind center than Kap. Kap has potential has only begun to be tapped, sky is the limit for Kap, that is why Jaws said he can become one of the greatest QB's in history, he made that statement based upon his potential.

This coaching staff let Kap down this year, trying to make him a clone of Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, fearing that he might get hurt. Having said that Kap lead the Niners to the super bowl with only 8 games experience, the only other QB to do that was Jeff Hostetler. That is why Kap gets so many endorsements, plus he has Swag, Style and charisma. Russell Wilson, as good as he is, still have yet to lead his team to the Superbowl, he has yet to accomplish what Kap has already done with less starts.

Yes, but unlike the other four, Kaep had an opportunity to sit and learn for 1.5 years before being kicked out of the nest, plus he inherited a team that was 14-2 and a missed FG from going to the SB in the previous season. Cam, Wilson, RG3, and Andrew Luck all inherited losing teams and were forced to start from the get go and learn on the job.

Kaepernick is not in the same class as the 4 you mentioned. He's an average quarterback at best and not much, if any, of an upgrade over Alex Smith.

If your calling kapernick an average qb then what does that say about Wilson. They are very close statistically this year. Look and all qb stats and it shows that.

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[RolandDeschain]

If your calling kapernick an average qb then what does that say about Wilson. They are very close statistically this year. Look and all qb stats and it shows that.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb

Wilson: 6th
Kaepernick: 14th

DVOA is what matters more than any other stat.

 

[HansGruber]

Not with Greg Roman calling plays. The Niners are a run first team, they throw along the way.

Quick question: why did we never see you until now? After week 2, you didn't exist - now, you're in every thread on this forum, eager to talk some football. Is that just part of being a bandwagon riding fairweather fan? Is that what you guys do? Show up when you win, disappear when you lose?

 

[-The Glove-]

I don't think the Niners are going to be 12-4.

TB isn't an easy win in TB. Falcons game at home should be a W, but the last game against Arizona? Not a gimme, especially if it's for a playoff spot.

The Niners are a good team, they still haven't showed they are great. Gore isn't what he used to be and Kaepernick just isn't special.

To me, every game is a 'must win', this is the NFL, you only play 16 of them in the regular season. Practicing losing is never good.

You guys in here bash Kap relentlessly, probably more than some Niner fans do out here, but you forget, he is still young, Russell Wilson, Luck, Cam and RG3 has more experience behind center than Kap. Kap has potential has only begun to be tapped, sky is the limit for Kap, that is why Jaws said he can become one of the greatest QB's in history, he made that statement based upon his potential.

This coaching staff let Kap down this year, trying to make him a clone of Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, fearing that he might get hurt. Having said that Kap lead the Niners to the super bowl with only 8 games experience, the only other QB to do that was Jeff Hostetler. That is why Kap gets so many endorsements, plus he has Swag, Style and charisma. Russell Wilson, as good as he is, still have yet to lead his team to the Superbowl, he has yet to accomplish what Kap has already done with less starts.

Yes, but unlike the other four, Kaep had an opportunity to sit and learn for 1.5 years before being kicked out of the nest, plus he inherited a team that was 14-2 and a missed FG from going to the SB in the previous season. Cam, Wilson, RG3, and Andrew Luck all inherited losing teams and were forced to start from the get go and learn on the job.

Kaepernick is not in the same class as the 4 you mentioned. He's an average quarterback at best and not much, if any, of an upgrade over Alex Smith.

If your calling kapernick an average qb then what does that say about Wilson. They are very close statistically this year. Look and all qb stats and it shows that.

Watch the games and its obvious they're not in the same league. I've talked to plenty of Niners fans and they've said what we've all been saying since last season- he doesn't read D's well and he can't go through his progressions quickly

 

[HansGruber]

If your calling kapernick an average qb then what does that say about Wilson. They are very close statistically this year. Look and all qb stats and it shows that.

Watch the games and its obvious they're not in the same league. I've talked to plenty of Niners fans and they've said what we've all been saying since last season- he doesn't read D's well and he can't go through his progressions quickly

Please refer to Rule 14 before feeding the trolls. Thank you.

 

[Bigpumpkin]

Give me a break. When you've already got a guaranteed spot in the playoffs, no regular season game is a must-win game. We WANT more wins for home field advantage and such, but we've got our ticket to the postseason punched no matter what.

You miss the point Roland, we are not playing to just squeak into the Playoffs....we are playing for the #1 seed! That requires that we win the next three games....period!

 

[RolandDeschain]

No, we're playing to win the Super Bowl. That's the long-term goal. The short-term one is we're playing to beat the New York Giants.