OneLofaTatupu
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You’re insane
Geno looked crazy good tonight
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If Geno has time to survey the field and throw the ball, like most NFL QB's, he'll hit receivers at a high completion rate. He's got more than enough arm talent. It's when he's under pressure, especially on 3rd down, or when the field gets a little cluttered in the red zone that he's not as proficient as the first and second tier QB's in the league. Hopefully we'll see improvement in these areas, and better schemes and play-calling than we've experienced in recent years in these areas.
Maelstrom787
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People are going to laugh, but in 2022 he delivered a statistically great season with little help.
In a perfect situation, it's not impossible by any means. Give Geno a great run game while also keeping his pass attempts fairly high and I don't see anything that'd stop him from tossing damn near 40 TDs.
Add postseason success into that, which would be a team measure but is taken heavily into consideration, and you've got the recipe for MVP contention.
RiverDog
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The MVP is voted on after the regular season and before the beginning of the post season.
If you guys are serious about Geno's chances of winning the MVP, then you also must predict that the Hawks will win a minimum of 13 games in the regular season. The last player to have won the award on a team with fewer wins was Matt Ryan in 2016.
RolandDeschain
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Maybe you should start asking Seahawks fans around here who hang out on a Niners board why they're fraternizing with the enemy then, to be fair?
Which to me is completely asinine.
The MVP should not be voted on until AFTER the post season. Never understood that. Magic can happen in January...Why vote before the playoffs?
Also, I have no problem thinking Geno could win the MVP with all the right variables in play. We somehow (well not all of us) have this collective belief that Geno is incapable of anything more than he has already showed. I call horseshit. If given the right opportunity (i.e. the middle of your OL isn't a freaking swinging door for defenders, our running backs don't resemble a M*A*S*H unit late in the season, et al), he absolutely could flourish. He's smart, accurate and takes to good coaching very well. This system could be his ticket of the masses seeing him in a much more favorable light - IF injuries don't rear their ugly ass head.
Maelstrom787
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Ah, yeah. Brainfart.
Moreso important that he's on a team that's perceived as a real threat going into the playoffs, then.
LeveeBreak
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Geno wining MVP is plausable IMO, but not ready to make predictions. The Oline needs to show, and there's some optomisim there...but until that is proven, I have those kind of expectations highly tempered.
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RolandDeschain
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I don't think it's asinine. There have been phenomenal players who had an AMAZING season whose team didn't even make the playoffs. *Cough, Cortez Kennedy 1992 MVP and the Seahawks had two wins all season.*
Tez would almost certainly not have gotten MVP if playoffs were included, because people would invariably penalize great individual players for the failures of their team if they bounced out of the playoffs early and give a disproportionate amount of credit to great individual players whose TEAMS went deep into the playoffs. I would not want to see playoffs included in this process.
Damn. You cold stone bitched slapped me into next week with that take.
RolandDeschain
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LOL, sorry; nothing personal, just my thoughts!
Double Tribble
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Geno was good last year on his first scripted drives too. It's after that when the wheels fell.off and he would go entire halves without scoring and we wanted to throw our shoes at the TV. Hopefully it's not a mirage and he really does improve under this new system. Time will tell.
Geno is like any Quarterback. If he has no offensive line to protect him he looks like crap.
Give the man a fighting chance with a solid running game and we are raving about him.
Why is this so hard to comprehend?
Maelstrom787
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The team would go entire halves without scoring. We only had 11 rushing touchdowns last year. That's 4 more than the worst teams and 16 less than the best teams (SF, MIA, DET). Also had the 5th lowest total rush yards and 2nd lowest rush attempts last year, which is a really bad omen for a team that allowed pressure at a terrible rate. That's an absolute onslaught for any quarterback.
Hard to pin team stats on any single variable when the entire offense was very paltry overall at scoring. Inefficient rushing also has a disproportionate effect on red zone efficiency, as one-dimensional teams struggle more in short-field situations because the opposing defenses don't have to emphasize stacking the box.
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TheLegendOfBoom
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Lagartixa
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Cortez Kennedy never won an NFL MVP award.
In 1992, Cortez Kennedy was easily the top vote-getter for DPotY and won the award he richly deserved. He got a single MVP vote, good for fifth in MVP voting that year. Steve Young was the NFL MVP for that season with 56 votes.
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To me, the important question is not whether Geno can win MVP, but whether he can improve on 2023 and 2022. I think that's possible because even at his age, Geno didn't get a real shot until 2022. Hopefully, the last two years have been real learning experiences for Geno, and having had those 2 years will make a difference. If he's been putting in the work, it will show.
SoulfishHawk
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But he will never be MVP conversation good. Come on.
