Frank Clark returns to Seahawks

[strohmin]

According to Carroll's press conference, Clark will be doing the same thing he was doing with us the first time around. It's why he is playing this week, so Carroll is coming through with this. It will be up to Clark to be motivated to play all in during the regulat season.

I just remember Pete turning Jimmy Graham into a blocking tight end. That is why Im concerned. As mature as Frank seems right now, I just hope him and Pete are on the same page as what is to be expected.

 

[jammerhawk]

It wasn’t Pete that turned Graham into a weak azz blocking TE it was Cable and the idiot Bevell who called the play that lost the team the SB.

 

[bileever]

A very low risk move so nothing at all to complain about. However, I'm not getting my hopes up. He got released from a team with the worst defense in the league. There has to be a reason.

I think the reason is that the Broncos make all kinds of bad decisions. They have the worst defense in the league, both in points against and yards allowed. They only have 14 sacks, which is near the bottom of the league. And yet Sean Payton says that they have better pass rushers than Frank Clark and Randy Gregory, two proven commodities. Why did they pay good money to sign them in the first place? It's all a little baffling.

The Chiefs were set to sign Clark if the Seahawks hadn't stepped up. Andy Reid and the Chiefs wouldn't have done that if they didn't think Clark could help them. I would trust the Chiefs' decision making over the Broncos. Also, you may have read about how Chris Jones was clamoring for Clark's return. (As was Jarran Reed.) Good players wouldn't be saying that unless they thought Clark would help them and their teams.

 

[CallMeADawg]

Incoming suspension a la Josh Gordon, maybe?

WTF?

 

[BASF]

I just remember Pete turning Jimmy Graham into a blocking tight end. That is why Im concerned. As mature as Frank seems right now, I just hope him and Pete are on the same page as what is to be expected.

It is so strange thinking of Graham as a blocking TE when he was second in targets each season he was here. He was never going to get as many targets here as he was with the Saints because Brees was great at extending drives with third down efficiency and Wilson was never very good at it.

 

[strohmin]

It is so strange thinking of Graham as a blocking TE when he was second in targets each season he was here. He was never going to get as many targets here as he was with the Saints because Brees was great at extending drives with third down efficiency and Wilson was never very good at it.

In petes system, he requires his players to do multiple things. He was his corners to be able to tackle and cover, his linebackers to cover the pass and run, his receivers to be able to block and pass catch etc. It baffles me that Pete would even trade for Jimmy Graham. I wouldnt be surprised if I saw Frank dropping back in zone in Pete's system but I hope that doesnt happen.

 

[FrodosFinger]

What Frank brings is tenacity off the edge. Can he replicate Uchenna’s game? Yeah I think we’ve all seen Frank be a force on the edge when healthy. Hopefully he can come in and rotate and bring pressure situationally

 

[toffee]

Frank basically signed a vetmin, Hawks friendly contract!! And Broncos is paying him more than we do. Frank Clark’s 1-year deal with the Seahawks is for $1.165M. He’ll collect the prorated version of that over the final 11 weeks of the season. Clark had also collected about $3.75M from the Broncos this season. What's there not to like?

Details of the Frank Clark contract

Thanks in part to the Broncos having already paid Clark a significant amount for the 2023 season, the Seahawks are paying as little as allowed under the CBA for Clark’s services for the remainder of the season.

www.fieldgulls.com

 

[JPatera76]

7:00min mark Avril talks about clark being back

 

[nwHawk]

Watching it now. I am genuinely impressed. He has clearly matured since he was here before. Comes off grounded and genuine like you said. Really looking forward to seeing how they work him into the game plan. Something tells me we might have another Reed story on our hands.

I hope you are right. I sort of have those same vibe. Mature, humble, and understands who he is as a player. The later is huge.

 

[nwHawk]

I just remember Pete turning Jimmy Graham into a blocking tight end. That is why Im concerned. As mature as Frank seems right now, I just hope him and Pete are on the same page as what is to be expected.

Pete understands how an overall game can help a player. Block, and leak out for wide open looks. Help the team to win. Team >The Player!

Had Jimmy bought in off the bat, who knows how that might have affected his stay.

 

[strohmin]

Pete understands how an overall game can help a player. Block, and leak out for wide open looks. Help the team to win. Team >The Player!

Had Jimmy bought in off the bat, who knows how that might have affected his stay.

Yeah the team is important but you have to have the right players. Jimmy was an established pass catching tight end for multiple years. He also wanted to be paid like a reciever so why would you expect him to want to become a blocking tight end. Players need to be utilized to there strengths instead of trying to improve there weaknesses at the cost of winning. We'll see how Pete uses Frank and how he does.

 

[Lagartixa]

7:00min mark Avril talks about clark being back

One former #55 talks about another a #56.

(EDIT: Not sure how that Cliff-was-a-#55 brain fart happened. I was just watching a video about the Seahawks, and when I saw Jordyn Brooks in it, I thought "Cliff's number" and then realized I'd f**ked that up earlier.)

Thanks for posting this. And thanks for giving us the hint about where Cliff's part starts so I could jump straight to it.

 

[sc85sis]

“If you give me one task and allow me to focus and lock in on it I’m going to get the job done.”

I believe him.

See QB, get QB - unless it’s a run play. Then it’s see RB, get RB.

 

[LTH]

I'm not mad at it. Sometimes a new change of scenery (or a return to an old neighborhood) can rejuvenate a player.

If you listen to what the EXPERTS are saying stuff like :

We KNOW the Hawks are NOT going to get the same production out of Clark when he was with the Hawks or with KC.

That's the exact same thing they said about Reed. That's the exact same thing they said about the Hawks secondary not being as good as the LOB. That's what they said about the Hawks D in general or even the whole dang team. It just seems to be this talking point that everybody has accepted and everybody regergitates.

My take,

They don't know Sh!t!. They don't know how good Clarke's going to be, they don't know how good this secondary is going to be , and they don't know how good this D is going to be! They don't know how good the Hawks are going to be.

It's wide open! Clark can be as good as he is physically able to be. The secondary, the D, and the team as whole as well. It's up for them to decide how good they are going to be.

But Hey talking points are what they are... I guess! Puke...

LTH

 

[nwHawk]

Yeah the team is important but you have to have the right players. Jimmy was an established pass catching tight end for multiple years. He also wanted to be paid like a reciever so why would you expect him to want to become a blocking tight end. Players need to be utilized to there strengths instead of trying to improve there weaknesses at the cost of winning. We'll see how Pete uses Frank and how he does.

I think the important thing to remember is Russ could not throw a jump ball to save his life.

Still young, Jimmy should have bought in to Pete’s logic. Prof is in the pudding. How many championships do Jimmy have after leaving the Saints? Did the Seahawks win championships while he was here? Nope. Will Dissly comes in and we were all thrilled to have an all around competent TE.

 

[LTH]

I think the reason is that the Broncos make all kinds of bad decisions. They have the worst defense in the league, both in points against and yards allowed. They only have 14 sacks, which is near the bottom of the league. And yet Sean Payton says that they have better pass rushers than Frank Clark and Randy Gregory, two proven commodities. Why did they pay good money to sign them in the first place? It's all a little baffling.

The Chiefs were set to sign Clark if the Seahawks hadn't stepped up. Andy Reid and the Chiefs wouldn't have done that if they didn't think Clark could help them. I would trust the Chiefs' decision making over the Broncos. Also, you may have read about how Chris Jones was clamoring for Clark's return. (As was Jarran Reed.) Good players wouldn't be saying that unless they thought Clark would help them and their teams.

I'm not sure exactly what's up with Denver all I know is I view Denver as the gift that keeps on giving lol. My goodness they have given us a lot, just sayin.....


LTH

 

[strohmin]

I think the important thing to remember is Russ could not throw a jump ball to save his life.

Still young, Jimmy should have bought in to Pete’s logic. Prof is in the pudding. How many championships do Jimmy have after leaving the Saints? Did the Seahawks win championships while he was here? Nope. Will Dissly comes in and we were all thrilled to have an all around competent TE.

Yeah I agree we should get players who buy in and are able to do it all but Jimmy was clearly a receiving tight end and wanted to be treated as one. There was no reason to think that trade would be successful if we werent going to utilize his strengths.

 

[LastRideOut]

If you listen to what the EXPERTS are saying stuff like :

We KNOW the Hawks are NOT going to get the same production out of Clark when he was with the Hawks or with KC.

That's the exact same thing they said about Reed. That's the exact same thing they said about the Hawks secondary not being as good as the LOB. That's what they said about the Hawks D in general or even the whole dang team. It just seems to be this talking point that everybody has accepted and everybody regergitates.

My take,

They don't know Sh!t!. They don't know how good Clarke's going to be, they don't know how good this secondary is going to be , and they don't know how good this D is going to be! They don't know how good the Hawks are going to be.

It's wide open! Clark can be as good as he is physically able to be. The secondary, the D, and the team as whole as well. It's up for them to decide how good they are going to be.

But Hey talking points are what they are... I guess! Puke...

LTH

I like your optimism. Not that I entirely agree but I like it nonetheless.

It's easy to say the secondary will never be as good as the LOB. Good chance that will hold true. The LOB was a unit that comes along once every few generations. It was historic and it's not easy to achieve that level of play in the secondary. So it's easy for the talking heads to make that claim because they know the chances of being right are high.

The reality is that Clark has some miles on him. I don't think we will see the KC playoff version of Clark. More likely we see spurts of good play and games in which he disappears. That was the case in KC during the regular season and it'll likely be the same here. There might be a small drop off in his play but we will see.

There is a grain of truth in what the talking heads are saying. I'd love to be proven wrong though.

 

[JPatera76]

I enjoy Clark talking about "coming home"