Forgotten rb

[Seahawkwalt1967]

What would you offer him? What do you think someone else might offer?

I’d love to draft the kind of RB you mention but who knows what the availability will be.

I wouldn’t sign K9 at any cost but I would do whatever is reasonably palatable and fits within the team’s overall salary parameters and constraints. If that can get done, it would be far better than any other option currently on the table, IMO. Who knows when Zach will be ready to play? Who knows what we really have in McIntosh - this will be his 4th year, after missing almost all of 2 years with devastating knee injuries. After that, it’s just a bunch of guys. Of course, they can let Walker leave but it would be great to have a solid plan B, which we really don’t have right now.

Exactly..

 

[Aircrew]

Right. Alexander was 29 and signed an 8 year, $62MM contract. Then he broke his foot. It was a terrible contract in terms of money (although, “only” $15MM was guaranteed) and length, with a terrible outcome.

What would you be comfortable with for K9? $ and length?

Edit: Alexander’s approximate $8MM/year in 2006 would be about like $13MM in 2026 dollars.

I would be comfortable with a 2 year, with a third year option, team friendly incentive laden deal. If he balks, let someone else overpay.

 

[flv2]

For context.

1) Barkley 20.6M
2) CMC 19M
3) Henry 15M
10) Conner 9.5M
15) Hubbard 8.3M
20) B. Robinson 5.5M avg (rookie deal) 7M 26'
36) KWlll 2.1M

2026 Draft year 1 rookie pay scale
#32 2.9M
#64 1.4M
#96 1.2M

For perspective the Bills have signed James Cook a 4 year $48M contract extension with 30M guaranteed, 12M avg per year
Walkers production falls short of Cooks.

So where does Walker fit? 10M?, more than B. Robinsons 26' 7M rookie slating?
It's a conundrum, a catch 22. What do you offer him without insulting his talent... Or potential production.
For me it's easier, it's about RB type & running style and $ commitment.
I want to draft a RB that has power, runs angry, breaks tackles and spells Barner from his short yardage duties. A guy like Nicholas Singleton Penn State on a rookie contract.

I'm not totally against re-signing KWlll, I'm just afraid my offer would be rejected as lowball or insulting. K9 is a great guy and talent who deserves to get paid & hopefully will. But I don't think we will be able to match what someone else is likely to offer.

This isn't context. This is re-posting sensationalist headline numbers that misrepresent contracts. As such it doesn't help or inform people looking for a quality discussion about contracts. I'm not picking on you or trying to make anyone look silly. I'm trying to improve the conversation.

For example: a late round draft pick QB whose 1st 3 seasons were great would have 1 year left on his rookie deal at close to $1M. The NFL's performance escalator would probably increase that final year salary to around $5M. If the player and team agreed to replace that 1 year deal with a 2-year fully guaranteed contract for $40M in the 1st year and $42M in the 2nd year it would be reported, (on Spotrac and elsewhere), as a 1-year $77M extension with a $77M per year average. The reality would be a 2-year fully guaranteed $82M contract with a $41M per year average.

 

[sutz]

They could just franchise K9. It's probably not much more expensive up front than what he'll get on the market. Then negotiate a deal that intelligently distributes the cap hits over the next 3 years. The new rules allow that.

 

[flv2]

They could just franchise K9. It's probably not much more expensive up front than what he'll get on the market. Then negotiate a deal that intelligently distributes the cap hits over the next 3 years. The new rules allow that.

The 2025 RB franchise tag was $13.64M. Overthecap projects the 2026 tag figure to be $14.536M.

 

[sutz]

The 2025 RB franchise tag was $13.64M. Overthecap projects the 2026 tag figure to be $14.536M.

Still manageable if they really want to lock him in.

 

[flv2]

Still manageable if they really want to lock him in.

Absolutely. GMs are there to make valuations and decisions. Everyone else is free to agree or disagree with those choices. Obviously making some high-priced decisions means certain other choices can't be made. There are limits...unless you're the Rams.

 

[hieroglyphics]

For context.

1) Barkley 20.6M
2) CMC 19M
3) Henry 15M
10) Conner 9.5M
15) Hubbard 8.3M
20) B. Robinson 5.5M avg (rookie deal) 7M 26'
36) KWlll 2.1M

2026 Draft year 1 rookie pay scale
#32 2.9M
#64 1.4M
#96 1.2M

For perspective the Bills have signed James Cook a 4 year $48M contract extension with 30M guaranteed, 12M avg per year
Walkers production falls short of Cooks.

So where does Walker fit? 10M?, more than B. Robinsons 26' 7M rookie slating?
It's a conundrum, a catch 22. What do you offer him without insulting his talent... Or potential production.
For me it's easier, it's about RB type & running style and $ commitment.
I want to draft a RB that has power, runs angry, breaks tackles and spells Barner from his short yardage duties. A guy like Nicholas Singleton Penn State on a rookie contract.

I'm not totally against re-signing KWlll, I'm just afraid my offer would be rejected as lowball or insulting. K9 is a great guy and talent who deserves to get paid & hopefully will. But I don't think we will be able to match what someone else is likely to offer.

Tyler Allgeier would fit this description

 

[Tusc2000]

The 2025 RB franchise tag was $13.64M. Overthecap projects the 2026 tag figure to be $14.536M.

Bear in mind that money that goes to K9 means less money to re-sign other guys who are entering free agency, especially on D. Decisions on where to invest are always hard, but I'd rather retain a bunch of our guys on D.

 

[Seahawkfan80]

Offense wins games, Defense wins Championships.

 

[pittpnthrs]

My opinion is that the OL is better than I can ever remember. That's including the Walt/Hutch left side.

Say what?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Better than the Walt/Hutch O Line? Um....................ok

 

[bileever]

I think that Schneider will make Walker a very good offer. The only thing that will prevent him from being a Seahawk this year is if some crazy team comes in with an unreasonably high offer. And unfortunately, there are at least 10 to 15 poorly run teams that are capable of doing such a thing. And some of them have a lot of cap space--the Titans, Raiders, Jets, Bengals, Cardinals.

 

[Ostatehawk]

That's your opinion and I doubt the majority shares it. Malcolm Smith.

Larry Brown - Dallas Cowboys.

 

[flv2]

Bear in mind that money that goes to K9 means less money to re-sign other guys who are entering free agency, especially on D. Decisions on where to invest are always hard, but I'd rather retain a bunch of our guys on D.

Absolutely. The financial choices you do make mean that there are other financial choices you can't make. I wouldn't re-sign Walker, even at $8M. I wouldn't retain Kupp at $13M. I would concentrate on Darnold, Smith-Njigba, and Witherspoon. Other opinions are fine.

 

[HawaiiD]

Different take but.
What I feel is forgotten among rb's these days?
Back in day when at the goal
They would leap/dive over the line of scrimmage ala Hershel Walker,Curt Warner,Marcus Allen,Walter Payton.

 

[projectorfreak]

Haven't seen anyone do that in a long time
Seems like it'd be the thing to do but comes with fumble risk too
Definitely fun to see though