SoulfishHawk
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It's ok, people will complain that he's too fat. Or they will complain that he is too muscular. Or that he's married. Or that he should be concentrating on football every day of the year, even in the off season etc.
scutterhawk":27c8ag6g said:So it's your expert opinion that an athlete cannot be at his quickest / fastest, unless / until his muscles are fully "PUMPED"? LOLtitan3131":27c8ag6g said:Chapow - Do not assume to know anythign about me. I used to be 300+ lbs and have worked very hard to accomplish my goals of being healthy.
In the Videos on that page you can clearly see his level of vascularity and how soft he looks. A muscle while its being used engorges itself with blood and gets what is termed a "pump" leaving it bigger then normal. In these training videos he is incredibly softer and you clearly refused to read or comprehend the extensive logical agruement I posted yesterday. That is your loss.
Chapow made a good point, Russell Wilson had been training last Year, to build muscle, maximize his "Core Strength" and "Speed".
Anyone proclaiming that they could tell that RW was visibly SLOWER before he got hurt is quite simply, full of malarkey.
Jville":3mkksp7c said:I find all this overblown preoccupation with quarterback details and speculation amusing.
A sight to behold is that of a pack of hungry defenders attacking and beating the crap out of a quarterback. The bonus is watching snowflakes, that think the game consists of dueling quarterbacks with a cast of extras, go thru a full blown melt down when their idols are knocked off their pedestals.
vin.couve12":19lpdahl said:I can't believe you fools have gone on about this for this long. The only reason why his weight would be a concern is because of scrambling. Subsequently, the only reason why scrambling is a concern is because he doesn't get the ball out in 3 seconds consistently. There are times when QBs have more time than 3 seconds, but that's the average none the less.
Think about that.
You are TRYING to prove that it's a "One Size Fits All" mentality, and that's Just NOT always the truth.titan3131":363erwu8 said:scutterhawk":363erwu8 said:So it's your expert opinion that an athlete cannot be at his quickest / fastest, unless / until his muscles are fully "PUMPED"? LOLtitan3131":363erwu8 said:Chapow - Do not assume to know anythign about me. I used to be 300+ lbs and have worked very hard to accomplish my goals of being healthy.
In the Videos on that page you can clearly see his level of vascularity and how soft he looks. A muscle while its being used engorges itself with blood and gets what is termed a "pump" leaving it bigger then normal. In these training videos he is incredibly softer and you clearly refused to read or comprehend the extensive logical agruement I posted yesterday. That is your loss.
Chapow made a good point, Russell Wilson had been training last Year, to build muscle, maximize his "Core Strength" and "Speed".
Anyone proclaiming that they could tell that RW was visibly SLOWER before he got hurt is quite simply, full of malarkey.
I was explaining him looking "Jacked" To you ignorant keyboard warrior normies.
Seymour":2hc9hup7 said:vin.couve12":2hc9hup7 said:I can't believe you fools have gone on about this for this long. The only reason why his weight would be a concern is because of scrambling. Subsequently, the only reason why scrambling is a concern is because he doesn't get the ball out in 3 seconds consistently. There are times when QBs have more time than 3 seconds, but that's the average none the less.
Think about that.
Definitely not the only reason. A huge part of our run game is the read option and Russell's threat to take off and move the sticks. In 5 years his average rushing is 537 yards per season, and that threat opens up the run game for Lynch or whoever. It is no coincidence that last year Russell's rushing numbers are way down to 259 yards, and this was the worst season since he's been here for the other backs rushing numbers.
scutterhawk":217z5qxa said:You are TRYING to prove that it's a "One Size Fits All" mentality, and that's Just NOT always the truth.titan3131":217z5qxa said:scutterhawk":217z5qxa said:So it's your expert opinion that an athlete cannot be at his quickest / fastest, unless / until his muscles are fully "PUMPED"? LOLtitan3131":217z5qxa said:Chapow - Do not assume to know anythign about me. I used to be 300+ lbs and have worked very hard to accomplish my goals of being healthy.
In the Videos on that page you can clearly see his level of vascularity and how soft he looks. A muscle while its being used engorges itself with blood and gets what is termed a "pump" leaving it bigger then normal. In these training videos he is incredibly softer and you clearly refused to read or comprehend the extensive logical agruement I posted yesterday. That is your loss.
Chapow made a good point, Russell Wilson had been training last Year, to build muscle, maximize his "Core Strength" and "Speed".
Anyone proclaiming that they could tell that RW was visibly SLOWER before he got hurt is quite simply, full of malarkey.
I was explaining him looking "Jacked" To you ignorant keyboard warrior normies.
I have ALWAYS been fast, even the times that I was 60 lbs. overweight........When I was 63, I worked the living hell out of a couple BUFF 29 year olds...I knew how to "Dig In" and extract what I needed to stay competitive. I have journeyman status in 4 different lines of work, and In all those lines of work, you got your butt replaced if you couldn't perform.....Russell Wilson stuck it out last Season, Pete didn't attempt to replace him, BECAUSE he didn't have the warrior he would have needed to replace him with.
EXPERTS like Pete Carroll = +1, Youse Doubters = O
No, it's definitely not the ONLY reason. It's just the extreme majority of the reason. And I don't really care about his rushing numbers. He needs to get the ball out fast and with accuracy.Seymour":ip6tt9nl said:vin.couve12":ip6tt9nl said:I can't believe you fools have gone on about this for this long. The only reason why his weight would be a concern is because of scrambling. Subsequently, the only reason why scrambling is a concern is because he doesn't get the ball out in 3 seconds consistently. There are times when QBs have more time than 3 seconds, but that's the average none the less.
Think about that.
Definitely not the only reason. A huge part of our run game is the read option and Russell's threat to take off and move the sticks. In 5 years his average rushing is 537 yards per season, and that threat opens up the run game for Lynch or whoever. It is no coincidence that last year Russell's rushing numbers are way down to 259 yards, and this was the worst season since he's been here for the other backs rushing numbers.
No fricking arse way. Dude is a camper. His release was infinitely faster in the last 7 games of 2015 and that stretch alone would force the average up above any point in 2016. That's complete BS.Anthony!":361vfhy1 said:Seymour":361vfhy1 said:vin.couve12":361vfhy1 said:I can't believe you fools have gone on about this for this long. The only reason why his weight would be a concern is because of scrambling. Subsequently, the only reason why scrambling is a concern is because he doesn't get the ball out in 3 seconds consistently. There are times when QBs have more time than 3 seconds, but that's the average none the less.
Think about that.
Definitely not the only reason. A huge part of our run game is the read option and Russell's threat to take off and move the sticks. In 5 years his average rushing is 537 yards per season, and that threat opens up the run game for Lynch or whoever. It is no coincidence that last year Russell's rushing numbers are way down to 259 yards, and this was the worst season since he's been here for the other backs rushing numbers.
Not to mention Wilson avg under 3 seconds last year and the year before.
Steve Palazzolo ✔ @PFF_Steve
Russell Wilson time to throw (snap to release):
2012: 3.37
2013: 3.18
2014: 3.20
2015: 2.98
2016: 2.54
Getting rid of ball much quicker
6:29 PM - 11 Oct 2016
vin.couve12":293c0snn said:No, it's definitely not the ONLY reason. It's just the extreme majority of the reason. And I don't really care about his rushing numbers. He needs to get the ball out fast and with accuracy.Seymour":293c0snn said:vin.couve12":293c0snn said:I can't believe you fools have gone on about this for this long. The only reason why his weight would be a concern is because of scrambling. Subsequently, the only reason why scrambling is a concern is because he doesn't get the ball out in 3 seconds consistently. There are times when QBs have more time than 3 seconds, but that's the average none the less.
Think about that.
Definitely not the only reason. A huge part of our run game is the read option and Russell's threat to take off and move the sticks. In 5 years his average rushing is 537 yards per season, and that threat opens up the run game for Lynch or whoever. It is no coincidence that last year Russell's rushing numbers are way down to 259 yards, and this was the worst season since he's been here for the other backs rushing numbers.
vin.couve12":39hkaz4q said:No fricking arse way. Dude is a camper. His release was infinitely faster in the last 7 games of 2015 and that stretch alone would force the average up above any point in 2016. That's complete BS.Anthony!":39hkaz4q said:Seymour":39hkaz4q said:vin.couve12":39hkaz4q said:I can't believe you fools have gone on about this for this long. The only reason why his weight would be a concern is because of scrambling. Subsequently, the only reason why scrambling is a concern is because he doesn't get the ball out in 3 seconds consistently. There are times when QBs have more time than 3 seconds, but that's the average none the less.
Think about that.
Definitely not the only reason. A huge part of our run game is the read option and Russell's threat to take off and move the sticks. In 5 years his average rushing is 537 yards per season, and that threat opens up the run game for Lynch or whoever. It is no coincidence that last year Russell's rushing numbers are way down to 259 yards, and this was the worst season since he's been here for the other backs rushing numbers.
Not to mention Wilson avg under 3 seconds last year and the year before.
Steve Palazzolo ✔ @PFF_Steve
Russell Wilson time to throw (snap to release):
2012: 3.37
2013: 3.18
2014: 3.20
2015: 2.98
2016: 2.54
Getting rid of ball much quicker
6:29 PM - 11 Oct 2016
vin.couve12":3m7r6ars said:Your espn article is from 9/21/2016 and states this:
According to ESPN Stats & Information, Wilson is releasing the ball on average in 2.33 seconds, which is ninth-fastest in the NFL. Last year, that number was 2.67 (32nd).
Discrepancy for 2015 for starters.
Your second link was a stat for one game and depending on how many bubble screens we throw, that's less than a second affecting the average mean. Obviously he has some days where he's one, such as the latter half of 2015 where he was on fire. Despite being injured last year, he actually visibly held onto the ball longer than the previous year, ironically. You can post stats from a single game or the start of 2016 or whatever you want, but the fact is that you can already see that between ESPN and PFF, it's a very subjective stat that highly depends on what they take into account. Even throw aways are counted in some cases.
He can eat 997 twinkies and do the truffle shuffle for all I care. He just needs to get back to quick 123 reads like the end of 2015. He read slow A LOT last year.
vin.couve12":27azigab said:Forgot about this from your ESPN article. I'll bold it.
In fact, he's never finished higher than 32nd in release time since entering the league.
That I kind of expect, previous to 2015 anyway. He used to run around like a chicken with his head cut off for long periods.