pehawk":2xpci5rj said:How long did it take the NFL to accept black QB'S? Minority coaches? The NFL is a red state with the corporate morality of Walmart. If you're as old as you claim to be you surely understand that.
They still haven't?
pehawk":2xpci5rj said:How long did it take the NFL to accept black QB'S? Minority coaches? The NFL is a red state with the corporate morality of Walmart. If you're as old as you claim to be you surely understand that.
mrt144":qylyrmm1 said:pehawk":qylyrmm1 said:How long did it take the NFL to accept black QB'S? Minority coaches? The NFL is a red state with the corporate morality of Walmart. If you're as old as you claim to be you surely understand that.
They still haven't?
peachesenregalia":395zli5q said:kearly":395zli5q said:chris98251":395zli5q said:When the generation I will call the Boomers dies out I think there will be a larger gain in all the aspects, the Boomer generation is the last one that really has the old mentality bred into them with their parents views. Sure that generation also pursued the open minded and acceptance as well but it takes a few generations to change the old mentality.
I agree, I think there will be a pretty big leap in about 20-30 years.
Currently it seems like society has hit an equilibrium point on social issues where factors like older generations dying off will likely move the needle more than anything else.
I read an article a few years back about social epochs happening every couple of generations or so. Pretty interesting stuff.
massari":1toy1pg3 said:I wouldn't want a gay guy playing for the Seahawks simply because of the Michael Sam esque distraction it'd create if anyone found out.
Also, even though most players say it wouldn't affect them having a gay teammate, most are probably just blowing smoke and would feel uncomfortable in the locker room/showers ect.
It's understandable why an interviewer would ask this question. Not worth it drafting a gay player imo.
I'm 15, I don't think much has changed about people's opinions towards gay people since I was born. Unless I'm more ignorant than I thought. You don't think the media would make a big deal out of a gay football player, causing it to be a distraction?Uncle Si":2z1hthvw said:massari":2z1hthvw said:I wouldn't want a gay guy playing for the Seahawks simply because of the Michael Sam esque distraction it'd create if anyone found out.
Also, even though most players say it wouldn't affect them having a gay teammate, most are probably just blowing smoke and would feel uncomfortable in the locker room/showers ect.
It's understandable why an interviewer would ask this question. Not worth it drafting a gay player imo.
I'd suggest the world has changed in a way you're probably not aware.
But to each his own.
The interviewer did not ask the question because of concerns over the locker room. He asked it specifically to rattle the player. We hear examples of it every single year.
massari":2ykeioza said:I'm 15, I don't think much has changed about people's opinions towards gay people since I was born. Unless I'm more ignorant than I thought. You don't think the media would make a big deal out of a gay football player, causing it to be a distraction?Uncle Si":2ykeioza said:massari":2ykeioza said:I wouldn't want a gay guy playing for the Seahawks simply because of the Michael Sam esque distraction it'd create if anyone found out.
Also, even though most players say it wouldn't affect them having a gay teammate, most are probably just blowing smoke and would feel uncomfortable in the locker room/showers ect.
It's understandable why an interviewer would ask this question. Not worth it drafting a gay player imo.
I'd suggest the world has changed in a way you're probably not aware.
But to each his own.
The interviewer did not ask the question because of concerns over the locker room. He asked it specifically to rattle the player. We hear examples of it every single year.
To each his own.
massari":3er4bh2f said:I'm 15, I don't think much has changed about people's opinions towards gay people since I was born. Unless I'm more ignorant than I thought. You don't think the media would make a big deal out of a gay football player, causing it to be a distraction?
To each his own.
I meant that in a way of how gay people are looked at, not necessarily laws, bathrooms ect.Uncle Si":380fcroi said:massari":380fcroi said:I'm 15, I don't think much has changed about people's opinions towards gay people since I was born. Unless I'm more ignorant than I thought. You don't think the media would make a big deal out of a gay football player, causing it to be a distraction?
To each his own.
That was confidently snarky for a high schooler. I do think the world has changed quite a bit. It will also gain some perspective as you get older. But in general, gay marriages are now legal and unisex bathrooms are prevalent in many high schools, corporations and other public buildings, for starters. All of this in the last 10 years. Public acceptance has been slowly coming for the last 30 years. Honestly these examples could be listed by the dozens.
To answer your question simply: no, i do not think the media will make enough of a big deal about the first openly gay football player to cause it to be a distraction. I imagine there will be a storm of interest, some follow up, and the world will turn its attention to actual football in no time. Will it rear up occasionally? sure, as it did with (start naming the "first" of anything).
Do you pass on the next Jackie Robinson because he's a distraction?
Jville":1y5ssur1 said:Its dialogue such as this that invoke memories of a Les Norton quote .... "be careful what you wish for".
As my generation fades away, the blame game laid at the feet of your parents and your grandparents will fall on deaf ears. You may anticipated and hope for a big leap. But who, outside of the arrogant, would dare presume a can't miss social direction for the better? Indeed, who is to say that those of you left behind don't end up eating each other? "Be careful what you wish for" :141847_bnono:
massari":3kczac74 said:
Same-sex marriage has been legal nationwide since June 26, 2015. So you're saying on June 25, 2015, society looked at gay people differently than the next day or today?Uncle Si":26535pi4 said:Right, so changes in laws would not be reflective of "how gay people are looked at." You are showing yourself to be quite the enlightened young man.
Good luck to you
massari":cznl5pwj said:Same-sex marriage has been legal nationwide since June 26, 2015. So you're saying on June 25, 2015, society looked at gay people differently than the next day or today?Uncle Si":cznl5pwj said:Right, so changes in laws would not be reflective of "how gay people are looked at." You are showing yourself to be quite the enlightened young man.
Good luck to you
Internet win for today.Archer":2pj6l0k6 said:Arguing with a 15 year old is like arguing with a Niners fan, circular and unavailing.