Fair catch signal?

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Apparently you barely have to move your arm... instead of waving so the whole field sees it
 

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Exactly. Not sure the rule on invalid fair catch signal, but that one was really barely a signal.
 

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The replay showed him waving for a free catch. It was real quick but it was there.
 

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Lots of bad calls but this was on obvious penalty...Not sure what you guys complaining about.
 

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Lots of bad calls but this was on obvious penalty...Not sure what you guys complaining about.
I think where some myself as well confused was how he barely really made that wave off noticeable like you see other players/teams make it obvious.
 

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You could argue that Blount committed 3 penalties on that one. Fair catch interference, hit before the ball got there, and maybe hit to the head of a defenseless player.
 

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You could argue that Blount committed 3 penalties on that one. Fair catch interference, hit before the ball got there, and maybe hit to the head of a defenseless player.
Yes, but wouldn't whichever had the most penalty yards essentially be accepted by the coach (or enforced by the officials?)
 
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Lots of bad calls but this was on obvious penalty...Not sure what you guys complaining about.
The signal was barely obvious on replay, how are players supposed to see a fair catch signal like that was?

Not sure what the rule book says but I’m pretty sure there is something along the line of “clear/concise”.
 

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You could argue that Blount committed 3 penalties on that one. Fair catch interference, hit before the ball got there, and maybe hit to the head of a defenseless player.
Yeah, it was a boneheaded play all around on our side.
 

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The signal was barely obvious on replay, how are players supposed to see a fair catch signal like that was?

Not sure what the rule book says but I’m pretty sure there is something along the line of “clear/concise”.
if not they really need to add in the rules that it should be clear and concise especially if the nfl wants to make it about "player health & safety"
 

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Rules say wave back and forth ABOVE THE TOP OF THE HELMET.
 

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Rules say wave back and forth ABOVE THE TOP OF THE HELMET.
So technically it wasn't even a legal fair catch by the rules.. lol (bone headed hit by Seattle regardless) but BUT then it should've been offsetting.
 

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If that’s the case.

We got shafted because that didn’t happen.
They should have called interference with the catch - different penalty but also 15 yards.

Even with no fair catch signal you can't hit the returner before the catch.

But if they called that, they would also have to penalize the.returner for invalid fair catch signal - can only move hands/arms above shoulder to make a valid fair catch signal or to shade your eyes.
 

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If that’s the case.

We got shafted because that didn’t happen.
We didn't get screwed because the ball hit Blount on the back. Clearly he interfered. The attempt at a fair catch signal (the rule says "A fair-catch signal is valid if it is made while the kick is in flight by a player who fully extends one arm above his helmet and waves it from side to side.") should have been ignored, but Blount would have been penalized regardless.
 

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We didn't get screwed because the ball hit Blount on the back. Clearly he interfered. The attempt at a fair catch signal (the rule says "A fair-catch signal is valid if it is made while the kick is in flight by a player who fully extends one arm above his helmet and waves it from side to side.") should have been ignored, but Blount would have been penalized regardless.
Solid explanation actually. Thank you!
 
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