bevellisthedevil
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NFSeahawks628":su0uq3mh said:AyyCuh u no who eye b!?
That sounds fantastic, when can you start?
NFSeahawks628":su0uq3mh said:AyyCuh u no who eye b!?
bevellisthedevil":3xi2rg8x said:NFSeahawks628":3xi2rg8x said:AyyCuh u no who eye b!?
That sounds fantastic, when can you start?
NFSeahawks628":w3upac26 said:KitsapGuy":w3upac26 said:[tweet]https://twitter.com/AaronQ13Fox/status/988525636732862465[/tweet]
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Ignore obvious signs that will limit a player from being his best? Sound logic there.
It's only worked for Frank Clark 1/3? 1/4?
jammerhawk":2b06evmr said:We all need to know more.
SoulfishHawk":jac6uako said:People will still be dwelling on this in 2025. :roll:
TwistedHusky":2j9xvrn3 said:I honestly don't care about red flags for being violent or committing petty crimes.
So conflating Clark with MM is ridiculous.
A red flag for violent behavior when you want a violent guy? Sure. Worst case you end up doing what SF did and getting a guy that gets you some bad ink, maybe loses you a draft pick (go look at what Charles Haley did, however). But if you can keep them out of the front page - you can get a player that may have slid because of those concerns. (A certain Bengals safety comes to mind).
SF took a hit for good LB and maybe Aldon Smith has run out of chances, but you also get guys like Ray Lewis due to those issues, so you take the risk.
Generally, though there is SOME risk in having those guys blow up on you, some of them work out for you. Frank Clark is a good example, because changing the background and circumstances can SOMETIMES change the options a player is faced with.
Lynch was a red flag for a number of reasons but it was NEVER his work ethic.
BUT guys with work ethic problems ? They rarely work out for you. So it is a STUPID red flag to take a chance on.
Great talent combined with low commitment isn't a recipe that gets you much. Hell, even Dion Jordan - who everyone is excited about, burned his first team badly.
Guys that take lots of plays off and show indifference (as pointed out earlier) are dumb risks.
The only stupider thing about this was the fact we wasted a pick on DT where we were less in need than backup safeties or starting OL.
NFSeahawks628":31m21805 said:Contrary to what many of the posters here would have you believe, there are actually talented athletes WITH great character out there as well. I prefer those, and thankfully it appears Pete and John do as well.
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Sgt. Largent":3bgmpolu said:NFSeahawks628":3bgmpolu said:Contrary to what many of the posters here would have you believe, there are actually talented athletes WITH great character out there as well. I prefer those, and thankfully it appears Pete and John do as well.
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I wouldn't call immaturity bad character.
NFSeahawks628":1b2ofj2i said:Contrary to what many of the posters here would have you believe, there are actually talented athletes WITH great character out there as well. I prefer those, and thankfully it appears Pete and John do as well.
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NFSeahawks628":1dy4j57j said:Sgt. Largent":1dy4j57j said:NFSeahawks628":1dy4j57j said:Contrary to what many of the posters here would have you believe, there are actually talented athletes WITH great character out there as well. I prefer those, and thankfully it appears Pete and John do as well.
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I wouldn't call immaturity bad character.
Yelling at cops and telling them "Dumb azz n------" and "You'll be a broke bitch for the rest of your life." is awful character and a lack of parenting.
Sgt. Largent":2aqifqn3 said:.
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McDowell was like 99% of young men at the age of 20...............immature, selfish and in the case of a spoiled athlete? Bigtime ego and sense of entitlement.
So to try and tie his on the field red flags about his motor and effort into an immature stupid young male thing like riding an ATV the week before reporting to camp is complete and utter nonsense.
Sgt. Largent":3rtlet2w said:NFSeahawks628":3rtlet2w said:Sgt. Largent":3rtlet2w said:NFSeahawks628":3rtlet2w said:Contrary to what many of the posters here would have you believe, there are actually talented athletes WITH great character out there as well. I prefer those, and thankfully it appears Pete and John do as well.
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I wouldn't call immaturity bad character.
Yelling at cops and telling them "Dumb azz n------" and "You'll be a broke bitch for the rest of your life." is awful character and a lack of parenting.
I agree, but this happened in December, not before we drafted Malik.
People keep trying to tie red flag character flaws into some poor decision by Pete and John to draft him............and the only red flags on Malik were a couple bad interviews and his on the field motor and effort issues.
And it's no worse or better than other reaches we made that have paid off, most notably Clark and Irvin, who had WAY worse off the field issues than Malik.
chris98251":10mk8krf said:NFSeahawks628":10mk8krf said:Contrary to what many of the posters here would have you believe, there are actually talented athletes WITH great character out there as well. I prefer those, and thankfully it appears Pete and John do as well.
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You and Tim Ruskell should be room mates.
Give me a guy with a chip, some anger, some intensity and that won't take crap. Let him set the tine and the identity of our team. Choir boys are what we had from 1977 - 2009, yeah we won with Holmgren and it was a good time but we never had a Nasty defense that set the tone of a game and that you were in a war, with Mike it was a chess match trying to stop his offense and a hope we could use the prevent defense to not lose the game. Looked like we could have one till Rhodes left. Pity.
Really liked the feel we had 2011 and on, the hope we could have offense and defense be able to dictate the game however never really matured to our talent level, would be nice to see Pete put both together in his final run.