Draft picks contracts?

[SPOHAWK]

Are draft choices signed?

 

[kidhawk]

I believe all have signed except Nick Emmanwori. If he signed, I missed it.

 

[toffee]

I believe all have signed except Nick Emmanwori. If he signed, I missed it.

He is a future mega star, Schneider is right to handle his contract with more care.

 

[HawkinNY]

he wants full guarantee. Honestly I say let him sit. If he wants to sit for 4 years I would let him.

 

[TwilightError]

Yeah. Most 2nd rounders want full guarantees now that the Texans gave that to Jaylen Higgins. Most 2nd rounders also still remain unsigned now. Interesting to see what happens with Emmanwori.

 

[kidhawk]

I believe all have signed except Nick Emmanwori. If he signed, I missed it.

I double checked my facts and Arroyo is also unsigned. Second rounders league wide appear to be holding out for 100% guarantees. Will see how this plays out. Someone somewhere will start signing eventually and the dominos should fall after that.

 

[Wolfiegrrl]

I can't say I blame them. The League has tried to pigeon hole draft picks for years. 1st rounders get the benefit of the 5th year option. 2nd rounders don't get anything. Tons of 1st round talent falls to the 2nd round every year. I knew something would have to start eventually once the League put caps on draftee's pay by slot picked. JS just needs to give Emmanwori & Arroyo the guarantees and get their butts in camp.

 

[seabowl]

I can't say I blame them. The League has tried to pigeon hole draft picks for years. 1st rounders get the benefit of the 5th year option. 2nd rounders don't get anything. Tons of 1st round talent falls to the 2nd round every year. I knew something would have to start eventually once the League put caps on draftee's pay by slot picked. JS just needs to give Emmanwori & Arroyo the guarantees and get their butts in camp.

The fifth year option is the teams option not the players option. Regarding giving both second rounders the guarantee, there’s only one team that stupidly did it so I’m not sure they should rush into it like you suggest.

 

[sutz]

The fifth year option is the teams option not the players option. Regarding giving both second rounders the guarantee, there’s only one team that stupidly did it so I’m not sure they should rush into it like you suggest.

I think a lot of team are offering partial guarantees for 2d rd picks these days, say 1-2 years guaranteed off of the length of the contract of 3-4 years. Hopefully they can find a compromise along those lines.

 

[kidhawk]

The fifth year option is the teams option not the players option. Regarding giving both second rounders the guarantee, there’s only one team that stupidly did it so I’m not sure they should rush into it like you suggest.

Actually,I believe both players who signed from the 2nd round so far are fully guaranteed. Carson Schwesinger (33rd overall by the Cleveland Browns) and Jayden Higgins (34th overall by the Houston Texans)

 

[Appyhawk]

I would place the blame on the agents, if blame is deserved. I do not think blame is warranted though, Problem is the thing will spread from second round, then to third round etc until all contracts are guaranteed.

Ammanwori is ready and willing, contract or not. His work ethic and enthusiasm cannot be faulted.

 

[uncle fester]

Actually,I believe both players who signed from the 2nd round so far are fully guaranteed. Carson Schwesinger (33rd overall by the Cleveland Browns) and Jayden Higgins (34th overall by the Houston Texans)

And Emmanwori was next up at pick 35, which makes me think a chunk of the GMs around the league are waiting to see what JS does before deciding their own plans.

Also, there could be a ton of pressure on JS from outside FOs and owners to not buckle and hand a guaranteed contract for pick 35, therefore solidifying the case for similar deals for the rest of the 2nd round class

 

[flv2]

The 5th year option is a benefit to teams and a negative for players. Rookie contracts are increasing by a lower percentage than the increase in the salary cap. Effectively a top pick in 2025 costs less in total cap terms than the equivalent pick in 2023. Terms have countered by offering top picks increased guarantees. Historically only the top 2 picks had fully guaranteed contracts.

In 2016 #3 overall pick Joey Bosa held out because the Chargers wouldn't fully guarantee his rookie contract, (whilst some lower pick were already being fully guaranteed). In 2024 the top 30 picks received fully guaranteed contracts. So far in 2025 the top 34 picks have received fully guaranteed contracts. Emmanwori is pick #35.

Pick #64 in 2025 received 2 years fully guaranteed. Pick #65 has no guarantees beyond the signing bonus. Next year some 3rd round picks will want guarantees extending into year 2. In the longer term future CBAs should link rookie pay to increases in the salary cap rather than fixing values for the next 10 years.

 

[kidhawk]

And Emmanwori was next up at pick 35, which makes me think a chunk of the GMs around the league are waiting to see what JS does before deciding their own plans.

Also, there could be a ton of pressure on JS from outside FOs and owners to not buckle and hand a guaranteed contract for pick 35, therefore solidifying the case for similar deals for the rest of the 2nd round class

Right after Emmanwori Cleveland picked Judkins who was just arrested for dv so I wonder if he signs whatever they offer if other players start to sign as well? Unlikely but with training camp coming up I think someone somewhere will cave soon and others will follow. The question is will it be players or teams.

 

[toffee]

I would place the blame on the agents, if blame is deserved.

I blame the agent too, it certainly ain't fault of Schneider or Ammamwori.

Ammanwori is ready and willing, contract or not. His work ethic and enthusiasm cannot be faulted.

I have him down as defense rookie of the year, he is a bigger and faster version of Kam.

 

[JPatera76]

I would place the blame on the agents, if blame is deserved. I do not think blame is warranted though, Problem is the thing will spread from second round, then to third round etc until all contracts are guaranteed.

Ammanwori is ready and willing, contract or not. His work ethic and enthusiasm cannot be faulted.

I’d honestly blame the NIL.. I mean these dudes made more in college than they’re gunna get starting in the pros, now a few years in the pros that’s different but yeah…

 

[Maulbert]

The fifth year option is the teams option not the players option. Regarding giving both second rounders the guarantee, there’s only one team that stupidly did it so I’m not sure they should rush into it like you suggest.

Not just one. Cleveland and Houston both gave guaranteed contracts to their 2nd rounders.

 

[Appyhawk]

One catch to our spot is that our crew actually had Emmanwori rated as a first round player. I don't know what that has to do with anything other than we felt lucky to get him in the second round, but it is kind of relevant to the argument for first round style compensation etc. so long as you accept staff statements/opinions as being "officially" relevant. In such a case Emmanwori is alone for claim rights and the other second rounders would have to dream up a case of their own.

 

[MoldyPurpleMayo]

So Cleveland didn't learn their lesson the LAST time they gave a fully guaranteed contract? This right here is one of the multiple reasons why they're seen as bottom dwellers.

 

[chrispy]

Players have been arguing for years that all contracts should be fully guaranteed. ...and it makes sense. It'll take several years to transition (cap growth and % in cba will change simultaneously), but that seems like the outcome albeit a decade +/- away. In the meantime, there's probably a small advantage to be the last team to agree to the eventuality.