kearly":1r9q4tcp said:I do think trading Baldwin makes sense. He's very likely at his peak value right now since he'll be a #4 WR next year. Seattle doesn't have to trade him, he's cheap this year and relatively cheap the year after that (RFA tag), but if Seattle wants a decent pick in return for Baldwin, now is probably the time to shop him. Especially since a 3rd or 4th this year feels a lot like a 2nd round pick most other years with the draft being so loaded in 2013.
Smelly McUgly":3rlbdxzk said:Add to this that I think Jim Irsay is unstable and needs to be removed from Twitter
Hope to get the same production? Have you actually looked at Baldwin's production?DavidSeven":1oe0u0hb said:kearly":1oe0u0hb said:I do think trading Baldwin makes sense. He's very likely at his peak value right now since he'll be a #4 WR next year. Seattle doesn't have to trade him, he's cheap this year and relatively cheap the year after that (RFA tag), but if Seattle wants a decent pick in return for Baldwin, now is probably the time to shop him. Especially since a 3rd or 4th this year feels a lot like a 2nd round pick most other years with the draft being so loaded in 2013.
Disagree. Doug is outperforming his contract. You don't trade away value. Does not make sense to trade him for a 3rd just for the privilege of paying MORE for what you can only hope is the same production.
Doug may technically be #4 on receiver depth, but Harvin isn't a prototypical WR and Doug is going to be featured heavily in our offense next year.
Baldwin's rookie year, he way out produced his UDFA status, but last year? He was just a guy, if that.
Hawkfan77":gganuwpt said:Hope to get the same production? Have you actually looked at Baldwin's production?
DavidSeven":1mw6v3yh said:Hawkfan77":1mw6v3yh said:Hope to get the same production? Have you actually looked at Baldwin's production?
Yes. Have you watched the games or are you blindly making judgments based on stat sheets? I'm not interested in assessing value based on pure numbers accumulated in a run-first, spread-it-around offense. Not saying he's a pro-bowler, but the eye-ball test says he's a deep threat from the slot and sure-handed all over the field. Ridiculous to think there's any assurance that a fourth round rookie WR would be the same weapon in the next two seasons.
"Just a guy" doesn't make those plays against New England and San Francisco. Just sayin'.
Hawkfan77":1xilzis8 said:Hope to get the same production? Have you actually looked at Baldwin's production?DavidSeven":1xilzis8 said:kearly":1xilzis8 said:I do think trading Baldwin makes sense. He's very likely at his peak value right now since he'll be a #4 WR next year. Seattle doesn't have to trade him, he's cheap this year and relatively cheap the year after that (RFA tag), but if Seattle wants a decent pick in return for Baldwin, now is probably the time to shop him. Especially since a 3rd or 4th this year feels a lot like a 2nd round pick most other years with the draft being so loaded in 2013.
Disagree. Doug is outperforming his contract. You don't trade away value. Does not make sense to trade him for a 3rd just for the privilege of paying MORE for what you can only hope is the same production.
Doug may technically be #4 on receiver depth, but Harvin isn't a prototypical WR and Doug is going to be featured heavily in our offense next year.
This seems to be a case in fans overvaluing their own players. I would LOVE it if we could get a 4th for Baldwin but that might be a stretch. Honestly, Badlwin is good-ish value for us as a 4th, but way better value to us if we could trade him for a 4th round pick.
Baldwin's rookie year, he way out produced his UDFA status, but last year? He was just a guy, if that.
Doug Baldwin posts here?!RichNhansom":kwm6uaqp said:Gotta agree with Davidseven here. If you think stats represent the quality of WR Baldwin is then you haven't watched the guy play. We like to say Tarvaris Jackson was tough but come on, compared to Baldwin Jackson is a girl scout. The man is purely fearless with amazing focus and above average talent.
The problem is he is also often injured because of it. It is also why you cannot rely on his stats to tell you the Doug Baldwin story. Make no mistake, the guy has the focus of Steve Largent. If he were a little less reckless (and in the right system) he could possibly end up having a similar career to Steve. Truth is Harbaugh really screwed the pooch on Baldwin because he was close friends with Sherman. If Harbaugh gives him the opportunities he deserves and doesn't sell him short to draft scouts, he is either a Niner right now or someones 4th/5th round pick and making a name for himself in the league. He will get paid and if he lands in the right system and learns to protect himself, he will get paid well.