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Yeah, that's the thing. Everyone on the planet knows that Metcalf is easily baited. Boy, Richard Sherman would take up residence inside Metcalf's head, wouldn't he?

That reminds me of when I saw Lester Hayes, an All-Pro defensive back for the Raiders known for his trash talking, being interviewed on a program. Hayes said that he tried his best to get into Steve Largent's head, calling him every name he could think of, to the point where Hayes honestly thought that Largent was deaf. That was until he tackled Largent after he had burned him for a 50+ yard pass reception, and Hayes said Largent got up and looked at Hayes, laughing at him.

I also think about reading and watching documentaries about Jackie Robinson, how he had to put up with so much verbal as well as physical abuse, especially in the first couple of years in the majors when he promised owner Branch Rickey that he would not answer or retaliate.

The funny thing about Robinson was that the abuse was so bad that it was actually beneficial for him as it infuriated Robinson's white teammates who sympathized with him and came to his defense.

Anyhow, sorry for going off on such a tangent.
John Randle would spend all week studying his opponents personal life trying to find something to help him get in his head
 

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It doesn't automatically void his guaranteed money. It gives the Steelers an out if they so choose, and so far, they have given no indication that they plan to cut ties with Metcalf, to the contrary, they've made public statements that he's still in their plans for their future.

There is a story out there that Metcalf supposedly reported the same fan to the team's security officer last year, but as far as I know, that story hasn't been confirmed.
Seems odd they wouldnt exercise the language in the contract?
 

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Seems odd they wouldnt exercise the language in the contract?
As we discussed earlier in the thread, there's no hurry for the Steelers to act on Metcalf's contract. There are still two regular season games and the playoffs left, so there's no sense creating more of a distraction than already exists. They might need Metcalf in the playoffs, so may as well give him some love in the hope that he can contribute.

Once the season is over, then they can discuss where they want to go with regard to Metcalf.
 
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Putting all the legal and contract stuff to the side for a moment, it was just a dumb effing move from the fact that the Steelers are one win away from winning the division and securing a home playoff game with just two weeks left in the regular season. That's got to pee off the coaching staff, ownership/management, and even some players on the team. It's not just about him. It's about what his mindless move may cost the team right on the eve of the playoffs. How can you call a guy a team player when he's unable to think about the team at this critical juncture of the season?
 

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He had soooo much time and so many literal steps between the thought to walk over there, and actually arriving directly in front of the goofy fan. How is it possible that you don't have more important shit on your mind during a football game? 😩 Dawg, the logistics of the incident frustrate the hell outta.
 

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Putting all the legal and contract stuff to the side for a moment, it was just a dumb effing move from the fact that the Steelers are one win away from winning the division and securing a home playoff game with just two weeks left in the regular season. That's got to pee off the coaching staff, ownership/management, and even some players on the team. It's not just about him. It's about what his mindless move may cost the team right on the eve of the playoffs. How can you call a guy a team player when he's unable to think about the team at this critical juncture of the season?
I completely agree with all of that. If I'm a Steelers fan, player, coach, et al, I'd be very pissed at Metcalf. He knew, or should have known, that players cannot go after fans or anyone else unless it's in a self-defense type of situation. If I'm the Steelers GM, there's no way I bring Metcalf back, even if it creates a big hole at the WR position. But they must have really liked him, or else they wouldn't have traded for him and signed him to a huge contract, so my guess is that they bring him back.

One of the problems with Metcalf is that he has this me-first mentality, which is one of the reasons why he has had a problem with personal foul penalties when he was with us. He doesn't think of the teams' consequences of drawing a flag, that it will set them back 15 yards because it's more important to him to uphold his personal pride and self-esteem.

My question is what is the appropriate remedy? I don't think the incident was severe enough to warrant a 2-game suspension w/o pay. There were no injuries, no property damage (outside of a $25 T-shirt). It was a one-and-done slap. And there is evidence that the incident was planned, that the fan intentionally provoked Metcalf.
 

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I completely agree with all of that. If I'm a Steelers fan, player, coach, et al, I'd be very pissed at Metcalf. He knew, or should have known, that players cannot go after fans or anyone else unless it's in a self-defense type of situation. If I'm the Steelers GM, there's no way I bring Metcalf back, even if it creates a big hole at the WR position. But they must have really liked him, or else they wouldn't have traded for him and signed him to a huge contract, so my guess is that they bring him back.

One of the problems with Metcalf is that he has this me-first mentality, which is one of the reasons why he has had a problem with personal foul penalties when he was with us. He doesn't think of the teams' consequences of drawing a flag, that it will set them back 15 yards because it's more important to him to uphold his personal pride and self-esteem.

My question is what is the appropriate remedy? I don't think the incident was severe enough to warrant a 2-game suspension w/o pay. There were no injuries, no property damage (outside of a $25 T-shirt). It was a one-and-done slap. And there is evidence that the incident was planned, that the fan intentionally provoked Metcalf.
So does the league wait until he does something worse?
Personally, I hope, for his sake, this is a wake up call.
He is getting worse, mentally, as far as I can see and hopefully he seeks some help...cuz he needs some.
 

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So does the league wait until he does something worse?
Personally, I hope, for his sake, this is a wake up call.
He is getting worse, mentally, as far as I can see and hopefully he seeks some help...cuz he needs some.
Worse, like what? Are you worried that Metcalf is going to go leaping into the stands and pummel some poor old lady? What's the worst he can do? He's not a threat to public safety.

I don't see any evidence that Metcalf is "getting worse." He's not on a path to becoming a mass murderer. Rather, he's behaving as he always has, easily baited into a confrontation. He's an immature temperamental child who can't control his emotions.

And he's not alone. Unfortunately, there are a lot of adults who are thin skinned just like Metcalf. And while like a lot of us, he could benefit from some professional counseling, I don't see it a big enough problem to where he should be mandated to seek help.
 
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I completely agree with all of that. If I'm a Steelers fan, player, coach, et al, I'd be very pissed at Metcalf. He knew, or should have known, that players cannot go after fans or anyone else unless it's in a self-defense type of situation. If I'm the Steelers GM, there's no way I bring Metcalf back, even if it creates a big hole at the WR position. But they must have really liked him, or else they wouldn't have traded for him and signed him to a huge contract, so my guess is that they bring him back.

One of the problems with Metcalf is that he has this me-first mentality, which is one of the reasons why he has had a problem with personal foul penalties when he was with us. He doesn't think of the teams' consequences of drawing a flag, that it will set them back 15 yards because it's more important to him to uphold his personal pride and self-esteem.

My question is what is the appropriate remedy? I don't think the incident was severe enough to warrant a 2-game suspension w/o pay. There were no injuries, no property damage (outside of a $25 T-shirt). It was a one-and-done slap. And there is evidence that the incident was planned, that the fan intentionally provoked Metcalf.
Where is this evidence?
The only evidence I see is the video where stupid attacks
a fan for calling him by his real full name.
 

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Where is this evidence?
The only evidence I see is the video where stupid attacks
a fan for calling him by his real full name.
The man had left his seat and was standing in the aisle when the incident occurred. There was an usher or stadium employee right behind him. The man celebrated right after Metcalf hit him, as if he had achieved some sort of objective. The man hired lawyers within a few days of the incident. Metcalf supposedly reported the same person to his team the last time he played in the stadium. Why would the fan have gone to the trouble of researching Metcalf's full name? That's not something even the most dedicated Hawk or Steeler fans know or want to know, let alone a Lions fan.

None of that evidence is anything that would stand up in court, but common sense tells us that this guy had some sort of agenda, that it wasn't a spur of the moment decision of his to taunt Metcalf.
 
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Fans press conference was a joke, wears a suit and backwards hat, most of the conference was muted, uses DK's government name. Adam Schefter reported it .

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The man had left his seat and was standing in the aisle when the incident occurred. There was an usher or stadium employee right behind him. The man celebrated right after Metcalf hit him, as if he had achieved some sort of objective. The man hired lawyers within a few days of the incident. Metcalf supposedly reported the same person to his team the last time he played in the stadium. Why would the fan have gone to the trouble of researching Metcalf's full name? That's not something even the most dedicated Hawk or Steeler fans know or want to know, let alone a Lions fan.

None of that evidence is anything that would stand up in court, but common sense tells us that this guy had some sort of agenda, that it wasn't a spur of the moment decision of his to taunt Metcalf.
Video evidence does hold it in court, Dec will pay so it never shows up.
 

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Video evidence does hold it in court, Dec will pay so it never shows up.
Yeah, that's probably the most likely outcome, that Metcalf and this fan settle out of court.

My point is that this fan, a man by the name of Ryan Kennedy, is NOT a victim, that he knew enough personal details about Metcalf, ie his given name, or as the fan calls it, his "government" name, which seems derogatory to me and was never explained why he referenced "government," and lawyered up almost immediately after the incident.

Kennedy held a press conference today with his lawyers in tow to announce that he was filing a lawsuit against Metcalf. Here's some of what he said:

At the outset of the press conference, Head (one of Kennedy's lawyers) spoke first. He characterized the interaction initiated by Metcalf as an "assault."

"What happened is this," Head said. "A professional athlete approached the stands, reached into the stands, grabbed the spectator by his shirt, pulled him downwards, and struck him."

There has been no claim that the assault physically injured Kennedy. The harm allegedly came from the subsequent effort to justify Metcalf's behavior.

"After that assault, false accusations of racism and racial slurs were made publicly," Head said. "As a result, Ryan Kennedy and his family have received threats, they've been harassed, and his business has been damaged. His business has received negative online reviews and negative comments based on those false accusations of racist statements.

"Being falsely branded as a racist is one of the most damaging accusations that a private citizen can endure. It's dangerous, and it causes very real consequences and very real damage."

 

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