Darnold Works

[chris98251]

Did you see his last two games when he was constantly under pressure? I did.

Oh like Manning in the Super Bowl or Rodgers when we played against him many times with the LOB.

Really did prove those two sucked and should not have been starters, so glad we exposed them.

 

[Hawkpower]

Did you see his last two games when he was constantly under pressure? I did.

Yes.
But didn't we need to upgrade our online anyway?
It's not like if we got Fields we'd be like, oh well, line is good now!!!

 

[Wsumatt1982]

Did you see the first 6 years of his career ? 6 years . There's a lot of ugly film on him . Would totally not be surprised if he doesn't finish season as the starter

This is a win-win. Most people here wanted to move on from Geno at all costs, now they are complaining about the replacement. Best 2025 option outside of Geno.

Darnold has a lower ceiling than Geno but a higher floor. Costs significantly less based on reports and 8 years younger. This can go either way but the potential is there. Doesn't stop us from drafting a QB this year or next. If it's a bad year then we have a high pick for a top QB next year. We still have a ton of cap to improve the O line.

We traded Geno for Darnold, about $10 million in cap space and a 3rd round pick.

 

[hawker84]

Oh like Manning in the Super Bowl or Rodgers when we played against him many times with the LOB.

Really did prove those two sucked and should not have been starters, so glad we exposed them.

Have no clue what you're talking about. Seahawks downgraded at the QB position this off season, and I'm not the only one who thi ks so. Go see what sherm thinks, go see what Brock and saulk think, go see what bump thinks, go see what the boys at the nfl network think. Not one expert, ex player is saying the seahawks have upgraded at QB. They all say, they better beef up the line because darnold can't handle pressure and we saw that in his last two games. If you think he can, you're a fool.

 

[hawker84]

Yes.
But didn't we need to upgrade our online anyway?
It's not like if we got Fields we'd be like, oh well, line is good now!!!

Yep you're right.

 

[hawker84]

This is a win-win. Most people here wanted to move on from Geno at all costs, now they are complaining about the replacement. Best 2025 option outside of Geno.

Darnold has a lower ceiling than Geno but a higher floor. Costs significantly less based on reports and 8 years younger. This can go either way but the potential is there. Doesn't stop us from drafting a QB this year or next. If it's a bad year then we have a high pick for a top QB next year. We still have a ton of cap to improve the O line.

We traded Geno for Darnold, about $10 million in cap space and a 3rd round pick.

Fair enough

 

[hawker84]

No now you can draft a quarterback to sit behind them for at least 3 years if it becomes mad Hasselback or Russell Wilson so be it

Draft who? Anybody worth a crap will be long gone by 18. Screw that, beef up the trenches.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

I love this signing. I think at worst you're getting a younger cheaper Geno and he's still young enough to continue to get better. The dude was an MVP candidate last year. He's also a great guy and an easy guy to root for too.

Seattle has a chance if they get the line sorted out to be in the playoff mix this year now.

I saw Darnold in person beat Seattle at Lumen….maybe Darnold can do some more winning at Lumen since he now joined the team.

Do I think Darnold is better than Geno.

Yes!

By a lot? No.

But it’s good “enough” to win as many games or probably “lose” as many games as Geno did.

Is this an upgrade? Probably not since Seattle lost some playmakers in this process.

 

[Natethegreat]

Did you see the first 6 years of his career ? 6 years . There's a lot of ugly film on him . Would totally not be surprised if he doesn't finish season as the starter

Could say the same thing about Geno 3 years ago.

 

[Mase]

-- Love the structure of the deal, basically a two year audition. We will see about the player. My concern is he is just another ex Jet QB who loses to the Rams twice a year.

-- Very much hope we are still looking at QB in this or next year's draft.

-- Also, would love to know if we even talked to the Dalman camp before he signed with Chicago.

Mase

 

[SeaChase]

Sam almost doubled Genos TDs in 24 with less interceptions. I'll take it

 

[Wsumatt1982]

Look dude I'm not here to argue, and I'm certainty not about to have a debate who's the better QB. Anybody who's anybody in the sport has already chimed in and they all think Geno is clearly the better QB. And so do I.

I will say I'm not arguing. If you go to the Geno thread, I was one of the few saying we need to extend Geno. But he wanted out. We got the best option to replace him. I agree, while I was never a fan of Geno, he was a damn good QB most of the time and very underappreciated. I think Geno today is better but Darnold could just be getting started.

I apologize if you felt like I was attacking you. Wasn't my intent.

 

[Hawknight]

Sam almost doubled Genos TDs in 24 with less interceptions. I'll take it

But this is like comparing apples to oranges, as he played with a better Oline than Geno I believe. I'll wait and see how many TD's he throws with the Oline we provide him this season....

 

[HawkRiderFan]

Yes.
But didn't we need to upgrade our online anyway?
It's not like if we got Fields we'd be like, oh well, line is good now!!!

This. Any comments on how Darnold would do behind last year's line is irrelevant considering the chances in personal (hopefully) along with scheme and philosophy this season.

Was Darnold the Panther QB that day a few years ago when they came to Seattle and beat us?

 

[chris98251]

Have no clue what you're talking about. Seahawks downgraded at the QB position this off season, and I'm not the only one who thi ks so. Go see what sherm thinks, go see what Brock and saulk think, go see what bump thinks, go see what the boys at the nfl network think. Not one expert, ex player is saying the seahawks have upgraded at QB. They all say, they better beef up the line because darnold can't handle pressure and we saw that in his last two games. If you think he can, you're a fool.

No QB ever can handle pressure when it's there before you can even set up on a 3 or 5 step drop, thats my point, everyone would look like shit. I look at a player and his cast of characters, they said Wilson was at best a career back up, Purdy an afterthought, Joe Montana weak armed, Hostetler and Gannon back ups, Plunkett washed up, Stabler weak armed, Favre erratic and inconsistent, all were successful in spite the experts saying they were inadequate for some reason, smart coaches see the leadership, decision making process and built a team to support them.

 

[Azvacar]

Did you see his last two games when he was constantly under pressure? I did.

Did you see PM when constantly under pressure in the Super Bowl? I did. Thats a scheme and OLine problem not entirely on the QB

 

[Ozzy]

This is a win-win. Most people here wanted to move on from Geno at all costs, now they are complaining about the replacement. Best 2025 option outside of Geno.

Darnold has a lower ceiling than Geno but a higher floor. Costs significantly less based on reports and 8 years younger. This can go either way but the potential is there. Doesn't stop us from drafting a QB this year or next. If it's a bad year then we have a high pick for a top QB next year. We still have a ton of cap to improve the O line.

We traded Geno for Darnold, about $10 million in cap space and a 3rd round pick.

I'm not even sure his ceiling is higher but I do agree with your overall point. Heck he's 27 and can still get much better. Geno was terrible at 27. If he doesn't work out like you said its not a big deal you can still move on and/or draft a guy.

 

[Lords of Scythia]

His contract is a good deal for a starting QB - way better than the DK rip off

 

[hawker84]

Did you see PM when constantly under pressure in the Super Bowl? I did. Thats a scheme and OLine problem not entirely on the QB

Agreed. That's my point bringing a lower tier QB in to replace and lower tier qb. Only difference is Geno handles pressure better tha Darnold and most QBs in the league. Other than to save money the deal makes zero sense. My point was you didn't have to deal with Geno, force him to play out his contract for one more season, then address that position when there's better options available. Darnold is a decent QB, but he's not better than Geno, especially under pressure. And that's all I'm saying

 

[hawker84]

I will say I'm not arguing. If you go to the Geno thread, I was one of the few saying we need to extend Geno. But he wanted out. We got the best option to replace him. I agree, while I was never a fan of Geno, he was a damn good QB most of the time and very underappreciated. I think Geno today is better but Darnold could just be getting started.

I apologize if you felt like I was attacking you. Wasn't my intent.

No worries, natural reaction here on the net. And i agree with your take, Darnold was the best available option.