Congrats on the win last night

[candyman4881]

From a Rams season ticket holder at the game last night, congrats to the Seahawks for the win last night. Hardly anyone gave the Rams a chance (including Rams fans), and it took the Seahawks playing one of their worst games in recent memory and the Rams playing with the "what do we have to lose" mentality for the Rams to even be in the game, and I realize the Seahawks play much better at home than on the road. I did see Russell struggle for one of the first times in his career, but still a very good QB and a damn good competitor.

A few questions for some of you:
- Why only 8 rushes for Marshawn last night?
- Why try to QB scramble on the goal line for Russell and then pass the ball for a TD to Tate? Why no Marshawn?
- What is the status of the tackles for the Seahawks? The backups were abused last night.
- Any concern with Russell that he holds the ball too long?

Thanks for your time, and great game last night.

 

[-The Glove-]

All good questions:

-Bevell
-Bevell
-Okung should be right around the corner and also Giacomini but we clearly need to go back to the drawing board on OL. None of our backups got any help whatsoever from the coaches
-its a little bit of a concern, but for the most part he had less than 3 seconds to get the ball out and seemed like pressure was there even sooner. I blame a lot of this on Bevell too since we hardly ever see any quick-hitting routes.

 

[ManBunts]

Excellent game to you guys too Candyman. Quinn is terrifying.

To be honest, I wish we'd lost it. I feel like a win blunts the lessons that we needed to learn, namely we need to pass protect and our WRs need to get open much quicker. You can't even point the finger at our backups. Even the starters got abused out there. And we should have taken advantage of the man coverage more. Not sure what we're paying Rice so much for if it's not to go up and get the ball. And then there's just stupid stuff like why, from 1 yard out, we ran a bootleg twice in a row, when we have Lynch. Bevell tried to get cute. We don't do cute. Never have.

 

[AbsolutNET]

From a Rams season ticket holder at the game last night, congrats to the Seahawks for the win last night. Hardly anyone gave the Rams a chance (including Rams fans), and it took the Seahawks playing one of their worst games in recent memory and the Rams playing with the "what do we have to lose" mentality for the Rams to even be in the game, and I realize the Seahawks play much better at home than on the road. I did see Russell struggle for one of the first times in his career, but still a very good QB and a damn good competitor.

A few questions for some of you:
- Why only 8 rushes for Marshawn last night?
- Why try to QB scramble on the goal line for Russell and then pass the ball for a TD to Tate? Why no Marshawn?
- What is the status of the tackles for the Seahawks? The backups were abused last night.
- Any concern with Russell that he holds the ball too long?

Thanks for your time, and great game last night.

Those questions basically dominate our message board, we don't know the answers. Not lining up Lynch behind center when it's first and goal at the 1 is one of the more puzzling decisions I've seen our OC make.

Otherwise, we are completely void of a drop back passing game and the road is going to get tougher from here on out unless Bevell and Cable actually make some changes (which I'm not terribly confident in anymore).

 

[Largent80]

Hilarious avatar Abs.

 

[Sarlacc83]

A few questions for some of you:
- Why only 8 rushes for Marshawn last night?
- Why try to QB scramble on the goal line for Russell and then pass the ball for a TD to Tate? Why no Marshawn?
- What is the status of the tackles for the Seahawks? The backups were abused last night.
- Any concern with Russell that he holds the ball too long?

1) As Absolut mentioned, no one knows. Maybe an injury? He does have back spasm issues from time to time.
2) See 1
3)Okung on IR Designated to return/Giacomini is week to week (?)
4)Sometimes yes. Other times, he never has a chance.

Great game last night. Rams played out of their minds, so congrats on that.

 

[dontbelikethat]

It was an extremely tough game.

The box was stacked with 8 or 9 almost the entire night (basically daring Wilson to pass) so Bevell went away from the run game. Marshawn is that type of dude where you have to get him the ball though, 8 carries is ridiculous. The two QB readoptions/scrambles were a little :34853_doh:. They should've done the slant to Tate on the first down. It's ridiculous to not use your all-pro workhorse power RB when you're like two yards out of the end zone. The blame is on Bevell.

Okung is on short term IR and his earliest return date is week 11 (I think?). He's walking normally and not in crutches,etc. so that's good I guess lol. Giacomini hurt his knee and recently had surgery, should be back around the same time Okung is. Our back up LT is actually our back up LG, we don't know why he's playing LT when we have a dude albeit a rookie and it was only preseason, but he looked good in Alvin Bailey. At this point, I'm just interested to see how he can do and if he's worse than McQuistan, I won't question it. Michael Bowie is a 7th round rookie RT and is getting treated like one.

Russell does tend to hold the ball a little long at times. Can't tell if he's not trusting his reads, WR's not getting open or what, but he does do it. He has a mentality to try and keep it safe and in these instances it hurts him sometimes, but TO's can swing the out come of a game, so it's hard to fault him too much when we don't analyze the tape as much as him to see why he's doing it especially considering how terrible this oline is to the point where he can't even execute a pass play with out ending up on his back.

 

[candyman4881]

One thing that I think both the Seahawk and Ram fanbases are aggravated by are the play calling of the OC. I can obviously see the issue with the Seahawks offensive playcalling, but Schottenheimer has been a major disappointment for the Rams. Passing 3 times when the ball is 1st and Goal at the 2 with the game on the line.....twice with an empty backfield so that there isn't even a decoy is mind boggling.

 

[AgentDib]

To be honest, I wish we'd lost it. I feel like a win blunts the lessons that we needed to learn, namely we need to pass protect and our WRs need to get open much quicker.

I see where you are coming from, but consider the upside here. The lesson may be blunted for the very casual audience who only looks at W-L records, but the coaching staff is spending the day scrutinizing every single outcome from the game and then creating a game plan for the Bucs based on lessons learned. Getting those lessons without a loss or a severe injury (pending outcome of Rice's knee) is a bargain for us. At this point in the season the W-L record starts to dominate everything else as the second half transitions to playoff implications and seeding for HFA.

 

[Greenhell]

Excellent game to you guys too Candyman. Quinn is terrifying.

To be honest, I wish we'd lost it. I feel like a win blunts the lessons that we needed to learn, namely we need to pass protect and our WRs need to get open much quicker. You can't even point the finger at our backups. Even the starters got abused out there. And we should have taken advantage of the man coverage more. Not sure what we're paying Rice so much for if it's not to go up and get the ball. And then there's just stupid stuff like why, from 1 yard out, we ran a bootleg twice in a row, when we have Lynch. Bevell tried to get cute. We don't do cute. Never have.

Wishing a loss on your team never crosses my mind. Ugly or not. A win is a win is a win.

 

[Hawks46]

I am willing to bet that 135 yards of total offense has their attention. We didn't have to lose to get the point across I think.

Pete needs to be up Bevell's ass about some things. Cable will be up the OL's ass about some things.

 

[cacksman]

Excellent game to you guys too Candyman. Quinn is terrifying.

To be honest, I wish we'd lost it. I feel like a win blunts the lessons that we needed to learn, namely we need to pass protect and our WRs need to get open much quicker.

You are insane.

 

[BamKam]

RW had a good game considering he had less than 1 second to get rid of the ball for 95% of the snaps. This one is hard to judge him at all considering Bevell didn't scheme any extra protection even though they ran through us like tissue paper.

Did Russell sleep with Bevell's wife this past week?

 

[TwistedHusky]

This win makes up for the BS loss against the Colts.

Well almost.

Either way, our record is now fair. We probably earned a loss but got lucky and in Indy we earned a win and got screwed.

As for Quinn, he was my big fear before the game and he showed up. We survived it. Barely. And the Rams always give us fits.

Last year we barely beat them at the end of the year, and they beat us the game before that.

 

[mikeak]

Not once did I think RW held the ball to long this game. There was one or two plays where you see him go to a guy and then decides that he won't be open and probably knows sack is coming so he just eats it. Not like prior games where you go 1, 2, 3, 4, sack (AT TIMES)

I almost subscribe to the theory - don't give the finger to your OC and you will get more runs. I really wonder if that wasn't a "benching" of sorts. I mean Turbin ran back to back plays in the first quarter.......

 

[volsunghawk]

The game reminded me of a combination of last year's game @SF (offenses struggling) and this one from 2007 (goal line stand at the end):

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/b ... 250ram.htm

 

[RedAlice]

One thing that I think both the Seahawk and Ram fanbases are aggravated by are the play calling of the OC. I can obviously see the issue with the Seahawks offensive playcalling, but Schottenheimer has been a major disappointment for the Rams. Passing 3 times when the ball is 1st and Goal at the 2 with the game on the line.....twice with an empty backfield so that there isn't even a decoy is mind boggling.

Completely agree with this.

And congrats on the win as well....in the end your D earned it.

 

[drdiags]

According to Pete's segment with BrocknDanny, Wilson made the wrong read twice prior to the Tate TD pass. Said he should have taken the option away from Wilson and handed the ball off to Lynch. It was part of the plays design and Wilson took the wrong read.

EDIT:

BTW, Fisher's Rams have given Carroll's Seahawks fits each time they have met. I don't expect this changes anytime soon. Hell, even Spags beat or played Pete's teams close when he was the Rams HC. Must be Long and others who has his number? Did Laurinitis (sp?) play or is he hurt? Didn't notice his play with Quinn and Long going to town. Brockers probably played well but didn't hear his name much either.