Completely rigged

[Chapow]

You can't be serious. There were SEVERAL non-calls that helped the Colts. It was next level obvious.

JSN was mugged, no call. CLEAR PI against Sheed, NO call, and that would have put them in the red zone.
JSN practically being punched, then ANOTHER dude dives on top of him, no call.

The "pass interference" on 3rd down that was a CLEAN PLAY that magically continued the drive for the Colts.

Come on man, the refs were steering this game. And it takes away the joy of the best sport in the world.
Sadly, it's going to get worse on Thursday. They have their script, and the Rams will get the benefit of several calls and non-calls.
I never wanted to believe this stuff, but I'm done fighting it. This sh** is steered, rigged, whatever the hell you wanna call it.

Once it starts to become the WWE, good luck keeping fans around.

According to some fans, it already is basically the WWE. Just look at the title of this very thread. Yet here they are every week watching the games and posting about how it's all rigged/fixed/scripted.

FYI, every fan base thinks their team is getting screwed by the refs. Every fan base thinks the opposing OL is constantly holding and the refs are intentionally letting them get away with it. Every fan base thinks their WR are constantly getting mugged and the refs are intentionally letting them get away with it. Every fan base thinks any flag against their team is unfair and proof that it's rigged because "look what the other team is getting away with".

Personally, I think Seattle fans have an especially acute persecution complex, much worse than most fan bases. Most of the posters here have already decided that there's no way we get a fair shake on Thursday night and that game has been rigged to favor the Rams, because "the NFL hates us and everything is against us".

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Not fixed but steered. Clearly. They don't even try to hide it at this point. Sucks. I just want the PLAYERS to determine the outcome of a game.

Honest question, are you NOT worried that the refs will shaft the Hawks on Thursday? I guess I just don't get the Rams apologists on a Hawks page. But that's just me and my hate.

That being said, I can't imagine how ANYONE could see these games and not see that the Rams get away with mugging, over and over again.

 

[Torc]

I used to hear the same thing about the legion of boom. Opposing fans talking about how Sherman and Browner got away with beating the crap out of receivers. Sherman talked about feeling out officiating crews to see how far they'd let him go, and playing accordingly. It's not always steering.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

With the Rams it is.

 

[Chapow]

Not fixed but steered. Clearly. They don't even try to hide it at this point. Sucks. I just want the PLAYERS to determine the outcome of a game.

Honest question, are you NOT worried that the refs will shaft the Hawks on Thursday? I guess I just don't get the Rams apologists on a Hawks page. But that's just me and my hate.

That being said, I can't imagine how ANYONE could see these games and not see that the Rams get away with mugging, over and over again.

Perhaps it would help me to see the light if someone could explain to me why the NFL hates us so much and why they steer so many games against us, but never for us.

 

[Chapow]

I used to hear the same thing about the legion of boom. Opposing fans talking about how Sherman and Browner got away with beating the crap out of receivers. Sherman talked about feeling out officiating crews to see how far they'd let him go, and playing accordingly. It's not always steering.

Yep, good example. Opposing team fan bases used to complain endlessly about how much the LOB was allowed to get away with.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I've seen enough with my own eyes. You don't need to agree. If you wanna' stand in their corner, I can't stop ya. I miss the days when Hawks fans hated their rivals, instead of envying them.

Go Hawks.

 

[Chapow]

I've seen enough with my own eyes. You don't need to agree. If you wanna' stand in their corner, I can't stop ya. I miss the days when Hawks fans hated their rivals, instead of envying them.

Go Hawks.

I don't want to stand in their corner. I want to understand why the NFL hates us and steers so many games against us. Yet every time I've asked this question (and I've asked it a lot), nobody ever actually answers the question.

FYI, the conversation I'm trying to have is about the Seahawks, not the Rams.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Games are being steered all over the NFL. Sadly, it's a trend now. If you don't see it, that's ok. It flat out is happening. Often.

 

[Welshers2]

What I believe at this point is almost every game is steered. This is different than scripted. Not as egregious, but in the end really not any better. Scripting would indicate the teams and players are in on it (like in professional wrestling). Steering requires only a couple of key resources to be in on it.

I can understand the counter argument and find it no less valid than any argument I can put out there for my position. But if you can watch how many games are officiated at this point (with the Colts game as exhibit 1) and not think that steering is even a possibility, you are delusional. (not directed at Welshers2, I quoted his post to make the distinction between steering and scripting.)

Yes i agree. Im misusing the terms, what i mean is the games are steered. And sometimes the Hawks can overcome the steering and win.

 

[JustTheTip]

Yep, good example. Opposing team fan bases used to complain endlessly about how much the LOB was allowed to get away with.

And I believe games were steered in favor of us from halfway through Wilson's rookie season until we lost the Super Bowl to the Pats (which was steered towards the Pats and still came down to a bade choice by Bevel.)

 

[Chapow]

And I believe games were steered in favor of us from halfway through Wilson's rookie season until we lost the Super Bowl to the Pats (which was steered towards the Pats and still came down to a bade choice by Bevel.)

Appreciate the honesty. I've never heard a Seahawks fan concede that if steering is as widespread and rampant as many believe it is, then it probably goes both ways. Even for the Seahawks.

 

[MesquiteHawk]

I remember a game where the Seahawks quarterback was flagged for defensive holding while making a tackle after an interception. Make it make sense.

 

[JustTheTip]

Appreciate the honesty. I've never heard a Seahawks fan concede that if steering is as widespread and rampant as many believe it is, then it probably goes both ways. Even for the Seahawks.

I certainly don't think the NFL has a vendetta against the Seahawks. It just isn't common that steering for the Seahawks is what is going to maximize profit, which is the only thing the NFL really cares about.

 

[JustTheTip]

Moved this to the NFL forum as it has moved well beyond game day chat.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Appreciate the honesty. I've never heard a Seahawks fan concede that if steering is as widespread and rampant as many believe it is, then it probably goes both ways. Even for the Seahawks.

It absolutely goes both ways.

 

[JPatera76]

With the Rams it is.

The rams have gotten away with PI after PO since thier SB birth PI.

Example we can knock Sam for the 4 ints in the first meeting but go back and look at the fists INT to Kupp and Kupp was being mugged. should’ve been a PI. It was not different than what was being to do our boys against the colts.

I fully expect things Thursday to tilt towards the Rams because McVay is the NFL love child. They’ll get away with the same shit the colts did. The holding the PIs and in the end we hopefully get the F-U NFL Officials Win. Because I for one am tired of it being the Officials+Opponents vs Seattle.

You can say “oh Seattle needs to play better”. But that excuse only works for so long. Okay so if Seattle plays better will that matter if JSN, Kupp, Barner, ir Shaheed is being held? Or if Their Oline holds on to our D.. or if thier WRs shove off our DBs? Nope. Because the proper calls aren’t being called both ways, then one team (NOT US) clearly has the advantage in a way that it won’t matter how well the other plays, it’s effectively being shut down by the officials NOT calling the proper penalties which steers the game for the Rams.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

It's ruining the best sport in the world.

 

[AROS]

There is obvious steering in the NFL. I see it every single gameday. I see it against us, and other teams too. I'm not saying or suggesting that the NFL Officials are part of some Illuminati with secret pacts in dark-lit rooms discussing who the next team is they are going to give the shaft to...

But...

I mean come on. The NFL has their "pet teams" that give them the benefit of the doubt and a leniency which is not always given the same courtesy to their opponents. It's most often subtle, and sometimes not subtle at all.

Don't just take my word for it...

NFL refs disproportionately ruled in favor of the Chiefs, say researchers

The findings come as the Chiefs are 2-3 this season

www.the-independent.com

 

[jeremiah]

It's ruining the best sport in the world.

There are a lot less commercials in the WWE. A WHOLE LOT LESS TALKING.