IMHO, nothing wrong with a "Conference Campion" banner.
this "finalist" stuff is pure silliness.
this "finalist" stuff is pure silliness.
themunn":2wh1u7am said:I don't think it's any worse than a divisional championship banner in all honesty.
NFC West Champs? Well done we beat 3 other teams and matched the achievement of 7 others in the league this year.
I watched that ugly footage 5 times and still do not see the ball hitting turf.I see it landing on the player who is on the ground,this player grabs it off his chest.A Pitt player dives across him late and hits the WR arm .The WR still held the ball and was already down to begin with when recovered the ball off his own chest before that Pitt guy did anything..TD!!!As I said -wish it was in HD with todays replay tech.hawknation2015":63g92zme said:IndyHawk":63g92zme said:Funny you bring up that hail mary play..To this day many believe that was caught.To bad there was not HD TV to really see what happened .Oh well..I agree Finalist banner is silly.hawknation2015":63g92zme said:TheRealDTM":63g92zme said:If you guys haven't picked up on it this is an obvious dig at the patriots, the colts FO/Owner is saying "Hey we lost to a cheating team and should have been in the superbowl, but we can't say it publicly so lets hang this asterisk in our stadium so people remember."
It's kind of funny actually.
That explanation doesn't make sense when you consider that they did the same thing in 1995 and 2003.
In 1995, the Colts finished 2nd in the AFC East (hence no Division Champions banner) and lost in the AFC Championship Game to the Steelers. Jim Harbaugh threw up a last second hail mary that was dropped in the end zone.
In 2003, Colts again lost the conference championship, this time to the Patriots.
I wonder if they lost in the Super Bowl whether they put up a separate "Super Bowl Finalist" banner. The whole idea is pretty ridiculous when you think about it. It sounds more like commemorating a loss than celebrating having made it to the conference championship game.
It was close but I thought it definitely bounced off the turf:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0a ... -Hail-Mary
IndyHawk":eolekevz said:I watched that ugly footage 5 times and still do not see the ball hitting turf.I see it landing on the player who is on the ground,this player grabs it off his chest.A Pitt player dives across him late and hits the WR arm .The WR still held the ball and was already down to begin with when recovered the ball off his own chest before that Pitt guy did anything..TD!!!As I said -wish it was in HD with todays replay tech.hawknation2015":eolekevz said:It was close but I thought it definitely bounced off the turf:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0a ... -Hail-Mary
Maulbert":33pi4ejo said:IndyHawk":33pi4ejo said:I watched that ugly footage 5 times and still do not see the ball hitting turf.I see it landing on the player who is on the ground,this player grabs it off his chest.A Pitt player dives across him late and hits the WR arm .The WR still held the ball and was already down to begin with when recovered the ball off his own chest before that Pitt guy did anything..TD!!!As I said -wish it was in HD with todays replay tech.hawknation2015":33pi4ejo said:It was close but I thought it definitely bounced off the turf:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0a ... -Hail-Mary
I posted this earlier, but everyone just seemed to ignore this clip of the same play, but It's pretty clear the ball hit the ground.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/indianapo.../Top-5-Hail-Mary-Plays-1995-Colts-vs-Steelers
themunn":1jtg4leg said:I don't think it's any worse than a divisional championship banner in all honesty.
NFC West Champs? Well done we beat 3 other teams and matched the achievement of 7 others in the league this year.
I'm not a fan of the whole banner thing anyway
Popeyejones":2l1jnutq said:themunn":2l1jnutq said:I don't think it's any worse than a divisional championship banner in all honesty.
NFC West Champs? Well done we beat 3 other teams and matched the achievement of 7 others in the league this year.
This. Absolutely.
If there's not an issue with the Panthers going 7-8-1 and getting bounced in their first playoff game and putting up a "Division Champion" banner, I really struggle to see how the Colts putting up a banner for goiing 11-5 and making it to the AFCCG is a problem.
Also noteworthy is that the Colts DID WIN their division last year, and rather than putting that up on a banner they put up one for the bigger achievement.
Much ado about nothing, and just another case of the Internet being a stupid rage factory, IMO.
hawknation2015":hsgdhx88 said:themunn":hsgdhx88 said:I don't think it's any worse than a divisional championship banner in all honesty.
NFC West Champs? Well done we beat 3 other teams and matched the achievement of 7 others in the league this year.
I'm not a fan of the whole banner thing anyway
Yet, the Colts were not even one of those EIGHT division winners. And they still think that season was "banner worthy"? WTF.
Those banners do not commemorate wins; they commemorate losses, including a 45-7 beat down.
I would throw up in my mouth a little bit if I saw the Seahawks erecting a "Conference Finalist" banner, commemorating our disappointing loss to the Raiders in '84, or "Super Bowl Finalist" banners for losing XL and XLIX.
themunn":ad8uxas1 said:hawknation2015":ad8uxas1 said:themunn":ad8uxas1 said:I don't think it's any worse than a divisional championship banner in all honesty.
NFC West Champs? Well done we beat 3 other teams and matched the achievement of 7 others in the league this year.
I'm not a fan of the whole banner thing anyway
Yet, the Colts were not even one of those EIGHT division winners. And they still think that season was "banner worthy"? WTF.
Those banners do not commemorate wins; they commemorate losses, including a 45-7 beat down.
I would throw up in my mouth a little bit if I saw the Seahawks erecting a "Conference Finalist" banner, commemorating our disappointing loss to the Raiders in '84, or "Super Bowl Finalist" banners for losing XL and XLIX.
What about an "NFC West Champs 2004" banner.
Hey yeah we're the champs of the division! But the Rams beat us twice in the regular season then bumped us off in our first playoff game!
Truly an impressive feat worthy of a banner in the rafters
hawknation2015":1aqyk9uj said:themunn":1aqyk9uj said:hawknation2015":1aqyk9uj said:themunn":1aqyk9uj said:I don't think it's any worse than a divisional championship banner in all honesty.
NFC West Champs? Well done we beat 3 other teams and matched the achievement of 7 others in the league this year.
I'm not a fan of the whole banner thing anyway
Yet, the Colts were not even one of those EIGHT division winners. And they still think that season was "banner worthy"? WTF.
Those banners do not commemorate wins; they commemorate losses, including a 45-7 beat down.
I would throw up in my mouth a little bit if I saw the Seahawks erecting a "Conference Finalist" banner, commemorating our disappointing loss to the Raiders in '84, or "Super Bowl Finalist" banners for losing XL and XLIX.
What about an "NFC West Champs 2004" banner.
Hey yeah we're the champs of the division! But the Rams beat us twice in the regular season then bumped us off in our first playoff game!
Truly an impressive feat worthy of a banner in the rafters
At least it commemorates actually winning something, i.e. a division title. Now if the Rams put up a "Division Finalist" banner, that would be truly pathetic because they would be celebrating LOSING the division title.
As Pete Carroll says, every year the goal is to win the division. After that, you move to stage two, which is the playoffs. I see nothing wrong with commemorating actual victories: division titles, conference championships, and Super Bowl wins.
themunn":29kl9pdk said:hawknation2015":29kl9pdk said:themunn":29kl9pdk said:hawknation2015":29kl9pdk said:Yet, the Colts were not even one of those EIGHT division winners. And they still think that season was "banner worthy"? WTF.
Those banners do not commemorate wins; they commemorate losses, including a 45-7 beat down.
I would throw up in my mouth a little bit if I saw the Seahawks erecting a "Conference Finalist" banner, commemorating our disappointing loss to the Raiders in '84, or "Super Bowl Finalist" banners for losing XL and XLIX.
What about an "NFC West Champs 2004" banner.
Hey yeah we're the champs of the division! But the Rams beat us twice in the regular season then bumped us off in our first playoff game!
Truly an impressive feat worthy of a banner in the rafters
At least it commemorates actually winning something, i.e. a division title. Now if the Rams put up a "Division Finalist" banner, that would be truly pathetic because they would be celebrating LOSING the division title.
As Pete Carroll says, every year the goal is to win the division. After that, you move to stage two, which is the playoffs. I see nothing wrong with commemorating actual victories: division titles, conference championships, and Super Bowl wins.
The Colts won two playoff games. You're saying winning your division but losing your first playoff game is worthy of a banner but winning 2 playoff games isn't (regardless of whether or not you won your division)?
themunn":288ii3ov said:The goal of the regular season is to be the 1st seed, but if you are the 6th seed you still consider it a successful regular season, otherwise it must suck to be the 2010 packers, 07 giants, 05 Steelers, 00 ravens etc, teams who all failed to win the regular season.
Putting up a division championship banner is something literally a quarter of the league is entitled to do every year.
Well done you're in the top 25%! Or how about in 2010 when we won our division, but 16 other teams won more games and a further 2 matched the achievement of winning 7.
All that banner says is "hell yeah there were 3 teams even worse than us in 2010!"
Ambrose83":354y0bay said:I dont get the issue with the Div champs banner, that is every teams goal during the season.... next is winning the conference then the SB...... all of those titles MEAN something... hence the banner.... some of you guys need to get off of here and go have some fun for F&^% sake. The negativity is kinda pathetic.
peppersjap":28apwqfp said:This is no different than all our fans who wanted another parade this year to celebrate our loss in the Super Bowl. Getting there is a great achievement but if you lose you should never celebrate in any way!
Popeyejones":anbc9bjc said:themunn":anbc9bjc said:I don't think it's any worse than a divisional championship banner in all honesty.
NFC West Champs? Well done we beat 3 other teams and matched the achievement of 7 others in the league this year.
This. Absolutely.
If there's not an issue with the Panthers going 7-8-1 and getting bounced in their first playoff game and putting up a "Division Champion" banner, I really struggle to see how the Colts putting up a banner for goiing 11-5 and making it to the AFCCG is a problem.
Also noteworthy is that the Colts DID WIN their division last year, and rather than putting that up on a banner they put up one for the bigger achievement.
Much ado about nothing, and just another case of the Internet being a stupid rage factory, IMO.