Cardinals to start Brissett vs Seahawks

[glenwo2]

I can explain it to you, but I can’t comprehend it for you.

31 points in the first half, 7 in the second. That’s not keeping your foot on the throat for four quarters, which was the actual argument here.

What happened in the 3rd? (forget the 4th 'cause Sam was sat down and Lock took over)

It's like after the Barner TD, Kubiak was all like "Yeah. We're good." and promptly shut it down.

 

[Appyhawk]

Look at Cardinals game results. Their record could easily have been much better than is shown. Just as the Niner's record could be much worse, and just as ours could be perfect!

 

[Trackhawk]

What happened in the 3rd? (forget the 4th 'cause Sam was sat down and Lock took over)

It's like after the Barner TD, Kubiak was all like "Yeah. We're good." and promptly shut it down.

Offensively, we coasted after half time.

Before the Barner TD drive, we had a three and out, and then an interception, consuming 3 min and 20 seconds of clock.

After the TD, we had two three and outs, consuming 4 min and 58 seconds.

Seahawks second half TOP was 12 min and 6 seconds, and we gained 120 yards.

Given, the entire second half was garbage time, I’d still like to see them able to control TOP with their offense more, and continue to score after long drives, even if it’s just field goals.

Those are the kinds of things that offenses, who are successful in the late season, tend to do.

It was a great win, no doubt, but we certainly didn’t keep our foot on the throat. Against good teams, that can come back to bite you.

 

[Hawkpower]

Offensively, we coasted after half time.

Before the Barner TD drive, we had a three and out, and then an interception, consuming 3 min and 20 seconds of clock.

After the TD, we had two three and outs, consuming 4 min and 58 seconds.

Seahawks second half TOP was 12 min and 6 seconds, and we gained 120 yards.

Given, the entire second half was garbage time, I’d still like to see them able to control TOP with their offense more, and continue to score after long drives, even if it’s just field goals.

Those are the kinds of things that offenses, who are successful in the late season, tend to do.

It was a great win, no doubt, but we certainly didn’t keep our foot on the throat. Against good teams, that can come back to bite you.

Both teams (especially after the injury) were just running the ball 3 times and punting to get the game over

Also, the one thing that can get a team back into a game that you are leading big is a pick 6, or quick three and outs that stop the clock, so why risk it when you can increase your odds of winning exponentially running conservative plays?

Wining is the goal. Not impressing fans with 4th quarter precision

 

[Trackhawk]

Both teams (especially after the injury) were just running the ball 3 times and punting to get the game over

Also, the one thing that can get a team back into a game that you are leading big is a pick 6, or quick three and outs that stop the clock, so why risk it when you can increase your odds of winning exponentially running conservative plays?

Wining is the goal. Not impressing fans with 4th quarter precision

You mean like the

3 play 1:41 drive and the
3 play 1:39 drive and the
3 play 2:24 drive and the
3 play 2:34 drive?

Which is exactly my point. The only non- 3 play drive they had was the one TD drive. They only had 3 earned first downs in the second half, and one of those was off of a penalty.

It seems, to me, that top tier teams, even if they don't score in this situation, still generate 3-4 drives with more than 3 plays.

 

[Hawkpower]

You mean like the

3 play 1:41 drive and the
3 play 1:39 drive and the
3 play 2:24 drive and the
3 play 2:34 drive?

Which is exactly my point. The only non- 3 play drive they had was the one TD drive. They only had 3 earned first downs in the second half, and one of those was off of a penalty.

It seems, to me, that top tier teams, even if they don't score in this situation, still generate 3-4 drives with more than 3 plays.

They proved they could score at will in the first half. What more do they need to prove to you?

There was no need to continue in the second half, especially as the 3rd quarter rolled on. Making mistakes was the ONLY way DC was getting back in the game honestly.

The idea that a team is only top tier if they continue to unnecessarily push aggressively in the second half is ridiculous and completely untrue

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I can explain it to you, but I can’t comprehend it for you.

31 points in the first half, 7 in the second. That’s not keeping your foot on the throat for four quarters, which was the actual argument here.

Get over it dude. They won by 24. Sorry it wasn't pretty enough for you. They gave up ONE garbage time TD in the 2nd half. They controlled the entire game.

My god, some people will complain about ANYTHING. Just cry more.
After the Hawks win on Sunday, you can come back and complain because they didn't score 30 points in the 4th quarter. Again, you're whining about a WIN. And it's hilarious.

 

[Trackhawk]

They proved they could score at will in the first half. What more do they need to prove to you?

There was no need to continue in the second half, especially as the 3rd quarter rolled on. Making mistakes was the ONLY way DC was getting back in the game honestly.

The idea that a team is only top tier if they continue to unnecessarily push aggressively in the second half is ridiculous and completely untrue

You're the one who set the parameters that 3 and outs (and pick sixes) are a major key in letting teams back into games. I agreed with you, and then showed you the stats on how the Seahawks were guilty of exactly that. Thus my concern.

Driving the ball, getting first downs, controlling TOP, and using the offense to close out games is not unnecessarily aggressive. We got lazy on offense, and left it to the defense to close out the game.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

They proved they could score at will in the first half. What more do they need to prove to you?

There was no need to continue in the second half, especially as the 3rd quarter rolled on. Making mistakes was the ONLY way DC was getting back in the game honestly.

The idea that a team is only top tier if they continue to unnecessarily push aggressively in the second half is ridiculous and completely untrue

I'm not sure he can "comprehend" the concept of running out the clock with a big lead. Might have to explain slower. If....you...have....a.....big....lead....running...the...ball...helps....to....run...out...the...clock.
You know, like football teams have been doing forever? Welcome to football.
They won the game by 24 points. FFS

 

[Trackhawk]

Get over it dude. They won by 24. Sorry it wasn't pretty enough for you. They gave up ONE garbage time TD in the 2nd half. They controlled the entire game.

My god, some people will complain about ANYTHING. Just cry more.
After the Hawks win on Sunday, you can come back and complain because they didn't score 30 points in the 4th quarter. Again, you're whining about a WIN. And it's hilarious.

"Dude" you said that they kept their foot on the neck. They demonstrably didn't, and that was my only point to you.

 

[Ostatehawk]

You speaking from experience? (as in actually meeting one?)

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Not talking shit but I'm curious now since that sounds oddly specific.

I mean - who hasn't?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

"Dude" you said that they kept their foot on the neck. They demonstrably didn't, and that was my only point to you.

See it how you want. They controlled the entire game. You clearly don't understand the concept of game in hand, run the ball. You also act like they didn't throw the ball the entire 2nd half. Giving up ONE garbage time TD is not letting up. Going for the throat isn't just offense. A game with ZERO drama was a blast to watch. Looking forward to hearing more complaints after a WIN next week.
I'm honestly shocked how unhappy and miserable people can be after a WIN.

Fan how you want, I'll enjoy a win.

 

[FrodosFinger]

We’re beating their ass this time. Couldn’t get out of our own way in that first game just like week 1

 

[sutz]

I think it was a great opportunity to work on the running game. Didn't work as well as they wanted, but they did work on it. Probably should have thrown in a couple of passes to get 1st downs, but still. We need work on the running game. Up by 30 pts? Okay, let's do it.

 

[Trackhawk]

See it how you want. They controlled the entire game. You clearly don't understand the concept of game in hand, run the ball. You also act like they didn't throw the ball the entire 2nd half. Giving up ONE garbage time TD is not letting up. Going for the throat isn't just offense. A game with ZERO drama was a blast to watch. Looking forward to hearing more complaints after a WIN next week.
I'm honestly shocked how unhappy and miserable people can be after a WIN.

Fan how you want, I'll enjoy a win.

Coach was also disappointed with the way the defense let off in the second half.

So, I’m comfortable that I’m in pretty good company with my understanding of game management, and my concern.

 

[Trackhawk]

I think it was a great opportunity to work on the running game. Didn't work as well as they wanted, but they did work on it. Probably should have thrown in a couple of passes to get 1st downs, but still. We need work on the running game. Up by 30 pts? Okay, let's do it.

100 percent. I’m concerned that they couldn’t move the ball any better.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Not sure if I want pancakes, waffles or french toast this morning. Hmmmm

 

[HawkRiderFan]

Go from legit 2 way threat to a one dimensional qb. Sounds good to me.
He's a great backup, but does not scare me in the least.

This is what I was thinking. He might run the structured plays better but don't have to worry about those unscripted big plays that Murray can make out of scramble situations

 

[SoulfishHawk]

With the pass rush, good luck Briskett.

 

[SocialParasite]

Not sure if I want pancakes, waffles or french toast this morning. Hmmmm