Can we put to bed the myth about our offense?

[TwistedHusky]

At the start of the year, there was a lot of buzz about how the offense was going to overtake the defense as the strongest part of the team.

Can we officially put that weird rumor to bed now? This team wins because of the defense.

We have come back with the offense and scored some, sometimes to take leads but without the incredible job by the defense when the offense continually does nothing for a half (or in this case an entire game), this team would have accomplished nowhere near as much.

 

[Hawkpower]

At the start of the year, there was a lot of buzz about how the offense was going to overtake the defense as the strongest part of the team.

Can we officially put that weird rumor to bed now? This team wins because of the defense.

We have come back with the offense and scored some, sometimes to take leads but without the incredible job by the defense when the offense continually does nothing for a half (or in this case an entire game), this team would have accomplished nowhere near as much.

Not sure I have seen that narrative too much around here.

You sure your not blowing that storyline up a little bit?

As a side note, we see this up and down from our offense every year. Literally every year.

It sucks and it needs to be better, but tonight wasnt indicative of some bigger problem. Its the same stuff we always see, and the offense usually bounces back the following week to be just fine.

 

[Cyrus12]

unfortunately i have to agree. Defense has to pitch near shutouts for the team to have a chance it seems. They need Rawls back healthy...then again whos gonna block for him to getta hole to run through.

 

[RussB]

The talent is there, i just dont get why they cant consistenly put up points.

 

[Hawkpower]

The talent is there, i just dont get why they cant consistenly put up points.

The overreaction to one game is too much.

Concern is valid, but we see this every year, and the offense was fine the previous three games.

We know Bevell sucks, but we have overcome him before, we can do it again.

Lets re-evaluate the offense in a few weeks and see where they are at.

 

[Rob12]

I think this offense misses Beast a lot.

I know that the offense put up huge numbers over the second half of last season, but that was when their backs were against the wall after a terrible start to the season. And, that's when this team is at it's best - when the chips are down.

We need capable tackles. Sowell and Gilliam are both below average, fringe guys. Good DE's eat them both alive and they have to overcompensate which leads to penalties.


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[TwistedHusky]

At the start of the year, especially in the preseason, that was absolutely the line they were selling.

This was the year, with Wilson, Rawls, and a healthy Graham that the team started winning more because of the offense than the defense.

The problem is that players ARE great, but you could give Bevell Barry Sanders in his prime along with Steve Young and Jerry Rice and he could still probably screw it up. It doesn't matter though.

This team wins because of the defense.

 

[Rob12]

At the start of the year, there was a lot of buzz about how the offense was going to overtake the defense as the strongest part of the team.

Can we officially put that weird rumor to bed now? This team wins because of the defense.

We have come back with the offense and scored some, sometimes to take leads but without the incredible job by the defense when the offense continually does nothing for a half (or in this case an entire game), this team would have accomplished nowhere near as much.

Not sure I have seen that narrative too much around here.

You sure your not blowing that storyline up a little bit?

As a side note, we see this up and down from our offense every year. Literally every year.

It sucks and it needs to be better, but tonight wasnt indicative of some bigger problem. Its the same stuff we always see, and the offense usually bounces back the following week to be just fine.

No, he's right. It was all over the place in training camp. HawkBlogger, FieldGulls, The Seattle Times... I'm not going to dig up posts but it was here, too. The belief was the offense had at least caught up to the defense.

 

[Hawkpower]

At the start of the year, especially in the preseason, that was absolutely the line they were selling.

This was the year, with Wilson, Rawls, and a healthy Graham that the team started winning more because of the offense than the defense.

The problem is that players ARE great, but you could give Bevell Barry Sanders in his prime along with Steve Young and Jerry Rice and he could still probably screw it up. It doesn't matter though.

This team wins because of the defense.

I guess a few people may have said that. Not the vast majority though, cmon.

And of course this team wins because of the defense, although last week we all wanted to put them on a skewer.

Funny how the emotions swing from week to week.

 

[Rob12]

At the start of the year, especially in the preseason, that was absolutely the line they were selling.

This was the year, with Wilson, Rawls, and a healthy Graham that the team started winning more because of the offense than the defense.

The problem is that players ARE great, but you could give Bevell Barry Sanders in his prime along with Steve Young and Jerry Rice and he could still probably screw it up. It doesn't matter though.

This team wins because of the defense.

I guess a few people may have said that. Not the vast majority though, cmon.

And of course this team wins because of the defense, although last week we all wanted to put them on a skewer.

Funny how the emotions swing from week to week.

The emotions are deserved. We have an elite (though a bit banged up) QB, good receivers, and an elite receiving TE. Yet, this team has put up the same exact amount of points as the Brian Hoyer/Jay Cutler led Chicago Bears.

111 points in six games (18.5 PPG) is going to get the emotions going.

 

[TwistedHusky]

I dunno, I think I have been pretty consistent in my searing hatred of Bevell. Even when he wins I point out he sucks.


because he does....and winning a few games that your defense keeps you in until your QB hero balls it, does not change that .

 

[NFSeahawks]

At the start of the year, especially in the preseason, that was absolutely the line they were selling.

This was the year, with Wilson, Rawls, and a healthy Graham that the team started winning more because of the offense than the defense.

The problem is that players ARE great, but you could give Bevell Barry Sanders in his prime along with Steve Young and Jerry Rice and he could still probably screw it up. It doesn't matter though.

This team wins because of the defense.

I guess a few people may have said that. Not the vast majority though, cmon.

And of course this team wins because of the defense, although last week we all wanted to put them on a skewer.

Funny how the emotions swing from week to week.

The emotions are deserved. We have an elite (though a bit banged up) QB, good receivers, and an elite receiving TE. Yet, this team has put up the same exact amount of points as the Brian Hoyer/Jay Cutler led Chicago Bears.

111 points in six games (18.5 PPG) is going to get the emotions going.

28th in the league... you know who's 27th at 18.6? The Cleveland Browns.

Do you feel that seat getting hot Bevell?

 

[kf3339]

This team in many ways reminds me of the 1999 Ravens team. An historic, crushing defense and an absolutely pathetic offense. No other way to look at it.

 

[Seafan]

We have a better OL than last year and the OC can't figure out how to call a quick pass. We have the best receiver on the planet, throw to him every play!!!!!

 

[Bigpumpkin]

111 points in six games (18.5 PPG) is going to get the emotions going.

28th in the league... you know who's 27th at 18.6? The Cleveland Browns.

Do you feel that seat getting hot Bevell?[/quote]

What is especially disappointing is the fact that we scored over 30 points in this stadium last year. What changed?

 

[TwistedHusky]

They learned from that & adjusted....like a reasonably decent coordinator is supposed to.

We went in with no gameplan because we use the 1st half to probe for weaknesses to figure out our game plan at the half.

It shouldn't be a mystery that won't work consistently, right?

You cannot just come in, screw around for 2 quarters, and expect the light bulb to go off so you can start producing. Remember the other team is trying to score during all this too.

Our DC comes with the a gameplan, sometimes effective, sometimes not. But the OC just comes in banging on different parts of the fence looking for weaknesses. It is almost as if he doesn't scout or watch film.

Just maddening.

 

[NINEster]

111 points in six games (18.5 PPG) is going to get the emotions going.

28th in the league... you know who's 27th at 18.6? The Cleveland Browns.

Do you feel that seat getting hot Bevell?

What is especially disappointing is the fact that we scored over 30 points in this stadium last year. What changed?[/quote]

A must win for AZ versus not a must win?

 

[NINEster]

They learned from that & adjusted....like a reasonably decent coordinator is supposed to.

We went in with no gameplan because we use the 1st half to probe for weaknesses to figure out our game plan at the half.

It shouldn't be a mystery that won't work consistently, right?

You cannot just come in, screw around for 2 quarters, and expect the light bulb to go off so you can start producing. Remember the other team is trying to score during all this too.

Our DC comes with the a gameplan, sometimes effective, sometimes not. But the OC just comes in banging on different parts of the fence looking for weaknesses. It is almost as if he doesn't scout or watch film.

Just maddening.

Who are you going to get who is better?

Every team wants a new OC.

 

[brimsalabim]

The talent is there, i just dont get why they cant consistenly put up points.

Whiffed blocks and holding penalties sprinkled with a few bad snaps but you get what you pay for.

 

[Thepeelsessions]

I dunno, I think I have been pretty consistent in my searing hatred of Bevell. Even when he wins I point out he sucks.


because he does....and winning a few games that your defense keeps you in until your QB hero balls it, does not change that .

You and I don't agree on many things, but we agree on this. We've seen his schtick for years now. He just can't go with what's working. Anyone who thinks he's a genius after a big win with big offensive output is wrong. Bevell is one of the worst in the business.