bigtrain21":3a34myy8 said:
RiverDog":3a34myy8 said:
For whatever reason, penalties are a part of Pete Carroll coached teams just as they were not part of Mike Holmgren coached teams. Pete himself noted how his teams at USC were penalized at a higher rate than his opponents.
It's not so much the penalties against the Seahawks, it's the lack of penalties called against the teams we are playing. In the last 4 games there have been 13 total penalties called on our opponents. We had 14 alone on Thursday Night. For every 3 penalty flags you see thrown during a game 2 of them are against the Hawks. There have been 153 total penalties called during Seahawks games this year and 102 have been on the Seahawks.
As you stated, we have a total of 102 accepted penalties called against us, of which 47, or 46%, are pre snap, which is by far the most pre snap penalties of any team in the league and the highest percentage of pre snap vs. overall total. The team with the next most pre snap penalties is Tampa Bay with 34. On the other hand, New England has nearly as many penalties as we have, 95, but only 24 of those, or roughly 25%, are pre snap. League wide, there have been 2384 accepted penalties with 809 being pre snap, which works out to be 34%.
http://www.nflpenalties.com/
It's not pass interference, holding, illegal blocks, or personal fouls, the types of penalties that are subject more to the discretion of the ref that's causing us to be more penalized than our opponets. It's false starts, defensive offsides, illegal procedure, and neutral zone infractions that's been our problem, and those types of penalties are for the most part very objective and easy to make.
Click on my link and you will see that we are the worst offender in the league in 3 penalty categories, all pre snap, which includes false starts, defensive offsides, and neutral zone infraction. We do not show up as the worst offender in any of the other penalty categories, which includes the more subjective holding, pass interference, and personal foul penalties. So clearly, we are our own worst enemy.
With as many pre snap penalties as we have had and with the relationship they have to our overall total, it is very difficult for me to buy what you're trying to sell, ie that there is a conspiracy amongst the refs to influence our games via penalties.