Cam Newton?

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If he can't run like a beast then he is a guy that has measurable that still needs to learn how to be a QB, needs the right system and a QB coach that can fast track him, he knows the speed of the game so that's a plus. His injury recovery will tell a team everything about what Cam they can look forward to seeing.

Career wise it would be a smart move to have a guy like Pete and Schotty with Russ on his side to get his skill set better and a chance to get his body right.
 

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No and No, He is a quitter, selfish and would cause problems with his ego
 

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Mad Dog":2aev8i19 said:
Cam Newton is the greatest short yardage QB of all time. Just to have him come in for first and goal packages would be an improvement. Russ is great at a lot of things but QB sneaks ain't one of them.
As much as I dislike and don’t want Cam, you make a very good point.
 

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Spin Doctor":n0d2rkxz said:
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I'd be surprised if he has the character, grit, and drive that has characterized the players this team has typically sought. I could be wrong, but from what I've seen of Cam, he's more interested in Cam than being "all in" for a team of brothers.
Not having character, grit or drive does not preclude the Seahawks from bringing in players that lack these attributes. In fact we have looked at players that have lacked these attributes quite often.

Percy Harvin was a known quitter and lacked character. We spent two first rounders on Percy despite his problems being well documented all the way back to his college days in Florida.

Jimmy Graham was another player we spent a lot on that didn't have these characteristics. We even traded away a guy that embodied all of these attributes. In return we got a soft tight end that didn't have grit, and didn't necessarily have the most outstanding character. He was a me first kind of guy.

Christine Michael. He had neither of these attributes and had issues dating back to college. He was talented but didn't take things seriously. When he did he still couldn't get the playbook down because he had a learning disability.

Malik McDowell. Some scouts characterized him as having the worst interviews that they had ever seen in combine history. He had a habit in college of taking plays off, quitting and making stupid on field decisions on and off the field. A known headcase.

I could go on but I'll leave off there.

One of the core features of Pete Carroll is that he believes he can get the most out of players -- despite having a troubled, checkered past. In some cases it has worked well -- a good example of this is Frank Clark. He became a leader, and example. One could say that Carroll is drawn to these types to these types of players. Cam Newton fits that type of profile. A player with all of the talent in the world, and the exact skillset Pete looks for in a QB. In fact you could say that he is very similar to Jimmy Graham in most of these respects.

I personally do not want Newton... I think he's just going to serve as a distraction going forward. I could understand the thinking though. If Russell Wilson goes down, Cam Newton would quite possibly be the best back up in the NFL. If he plays well if Russ goes down then you could get a kings ransom for him on the trade market.


I would hope that the lack of character and grit would preclude Pete from signing them now. That's been the whole point of the "Pete and John getting back to their way" thing.
 

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MontanaHawk05":1cpxpapi said:
Spin Doctor":1cpxpapi said:
Ad Hawk":1cpxpapi said:
I'd be surprised if he has the character, grit, and drive that has characterized the players this team has typically sought. I could be wrong, but from what I've seen of Cam, he's more interested in Cam than being "all in" for a team of brothers.
Not having character, grit or drive does not preclude the Seahawks from bringing in players that lack these attributes. In fact we have looked at players that have lacked these attributes quite often.

Percy Harvin was a known quitter and lacked character. We spent two first rounders on Percy despite his problems being well documented all the way back to his college days in Florida.

Jimmy Graham was another player we spent a lot on that didn't have these characteristics. We even traded away a guy that embodied all of these attributes. In return we got a soft tight end that didn't have grit, and didn't necessarily have the most outstanding character. He was a me first kind of guy.

Christine Michael. He had neither of these attributes and had issues dating back to college. He was talented but didn't take things seriously. When he did he still couldn't get the playbook down because he had a learning disability.

Malik McDowell. Some scouts characterized him as having the worst interviews that they had ever seen in combine history. He had a habit in college of taking plays off, quitting and making stupid on field decisions on and off the field. A known headcase.

I could go on but I'll leave off there.

One of the core features of Pete Carroll is that he believes he can get the most out of players -- despite having a troubled, checkered past. In some cases it has worked well -- a good example of this is Frank Clark. He became a leader, and example. One could say that Carroll is drawn to these types to these types of players. Cam Newton fits that type of profile. A player with all of the talent in the world, and the exact skillset Pete looks for in a QB. In fact you could say that he is very similar to Jimmy Graham in most of these respects.

I personally do not want Newton... I think he's just going to serve as a distraction going forward. I could understand the thinking though. If Russell Wilson goes down, Cam Newton would quite possibly be the best back up in the NFL. If he plays well if Russ goes down then you could get a kings ransom for him on the trade market.


I would hope that the lack of character and grit would preclude Pete from signing them now. That's been the whole point of the "Pete and John getting back to their way" thing.
I'd argue that this has always been Pete's way since day 1. He has a heart for guys with troubled pasts or checkered NFL histories. It's led to spectacular successes and a few spectacular failures.
 

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This is madness, a fit Cam Newton would be the starter on 75% of the teams in the NFL. People want to to judge the man on his clothes and his perception in the media. Remember how others would do that for Marshawn Lynch and how the narrative would be bs and wrong.

I cant see Newton coming here because he will want to be a starter somewhere and good luck to him, he's good enough to do that if fit. He's in limbo because he cant prove his fitness, if he can he will be a starter somewhere. He isnt a Jameis Winston style development project.
 

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God no. The opposite of a leader. But as usual, I'm not gonna' believe it for a minute. People throw stuff out there all the time, and people fall for it. Not gonna' happen. Next
 

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Mad Dog":1x3s4wdw said:
Rat":1x3s4wdw said:
Mad Dog":1x3s4wdw said:
Cam Newton is the greatest short yardage QB of all time. Just to have him come in for first and goal packages would be an improvement. Russ is great at a lot of things but QB sneaks ain't one of them.
Russ has a compact build and a powerful lower body; I think he’d be fine at QB sneaks if we actually cared to call them.

You'd think so and yet we never call them and I'm pretty sure the reason is he's not good at them. I mean can you think of another good reason other than lack of confidence from the coaching staff?

You don't want to risk your franchise player at the bottom of a scrum. Hand it off to the guy who makes his living doing exactly that.
 

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Appyhawk":163253ud said:
Mad Dog":163253ud said:
Rat":163253ud said:
Mad Dog":163253ud said:
Cam Newton is the greatest short yardage QB of all time. Just to have him come in for first and goal packages would be an improvement. Russ is great at a lot of things but QB sneaks ain't one of them.
Russ has a compact build and a powerful lower body; I think he’d be fine at QB sneaks if we actually cared to call them.

You'd think so and yet we never call them and I'm pretty sure the reason is he's not good at them. I mean can you think of another good reason other than lack of confidence from the coaching staff?

You don't want to risk your franchise player at the bottom of a scrum. Hand it off to the guy who makes his living doing exactly that.

Size and length, that's what makes a good QB sneak. Russ is thick, but he's short, so he gets pushed back if he can't find a crack to sneak through. Also takes some finesse and practice.....of which we do little of.

Pete's also said he's not a big fan of Russell sneaking for exactly the reason you listed, potential to get hammered. Kind of a weird statement considering he has no problem with Russell behind terrible offensive lines running for his life getting sacked 100 times a season.
 

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ballard1951":i89b2rek said:
Newton is rotten to the core. Remember his reputation from college?

Good grief, don't be so dramatic.

He was arrested for stealing a laptop when he was 19. Not ideal, but certainly not indicative of who you will become, and definitely not worthy of being deemed "rotten to the core". And do we not like to see humans overcome their lowest points and persevere to find success? As he followed up the dismissal from Florida with one of the greatest single seasons ever by a college football player - that's gumption.

He was recently a finalist for the Alan Page Community Award and was the Panthers ' Man of the Year nominee. Feel free to look up the Cam Newton Foundation.

Enough with the pearl clutching.
 

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If Richard Sherman, Earl Thomas, and Michael Bennett are considered locker room cancers. Cam would top them all. He would wreck the camaraderie built among the current players. Don't need that. He's not a team player at all and has a "me" first attitude. Hard pass.
 

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So at 14th game of the season, we need to win one to get into the playoff, win two with possibility of a by.

Russ has a little injury that needs to rest couple of weeks .... Or you could play Russ and risk losing him for the playoff or next season.



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I'm sure there are good things about the guy but to me as a QB
he just is overrated period.
Look at his stats,they don't show he is the same or better from
his best season but downhill and that is before injuries.
He is not fast anymore and sure as hell isn't anywhere close to
being superman in any shape or form.
He is a look at me show clown(entertainer)That is all.
 

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Cam in short yardage situations amd goal line situations is terrific. If he's cheap it's a no brainer for me. Doesn't make sense for him to come here but one can hope.
 

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Simple --Playoffs, ball on the ground, he steps away form it instead of trying to get it. Enough said. Me guy and we dotnt need a me guy. Add in he wants to eb a starter adn would cuase other issues.
 
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